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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

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Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:33 PM

And just in case you think this is an "oversight" by the M$M

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Newsweek Journo Quits After Editors Kill Report On Syric Chemical Attack Scandal
https://www.mintpressnews.com/newsweek-tareq-haddad-quits-syria-douma-
opcw/263292
/

Of course, you won't find THAT in the M$M either!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

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Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:57 PM

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THUGR: Poor comrade sig. She undoubtedly continues to sincerely believe others read or even typically see her lengthy posts as impressive, instead of for what they truly are; lengthy lies and deflections. Sorry comrade, in reality those are rabbit holes no one cares to go down.
Jeezus, do you have any idea how pathetic you sound? It's like watching a bruised and battered woman crawling back to "her man" for more.

Holy fuck, THUGR. Get a grip on your life.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

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Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:55 AM

Well, one thing we know - no amount of real-world failure (Mueller, anyone?) and no amount of real-world actual contrary evidence (OPCW) will sway these droids from their programmed narrative ...

... they need Madcow to reprogram them.

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Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:02 AM

Well, Madcow disavows that anything she says is fact. According to her, it's all "rhetorical hyperbole, incapable of being proved true or false."

That's her defense in a libel lawsuit brought against her by OAN TV Network when she claimed that “In this case, the most obsequiously pro-Trump right wing news outlet in America is really literally is paid Russian propaganda ... Their on-air politics reporter [Kristian Rouz] is paid by the Russian government to produce propaganda for that government.”

Well, that sounds pretty much like it is a "statement of fact" to me, and certainly capable of being proved true or false.

Madcow is hoist on her own petard. She's either going to be judged as a blowhard or as a defamer.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

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Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:50 PM

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Media’s Deafening Silence On Latest WikiLeaks Drops Is Its Own Scandal

This is getting really, really, really weird.

WikiLeaks has published yet another set of leaked internal documents from within the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) adding even more material to the mountain of evidence that we’ve been lied to about an alleged chemical weapons attack in Douma, Syria last year which resulted in airstrikes upon that nation from the US, UK and France.

This new WikiLeaks drop includes an email from the OPCW Chief of Cabinet Sebastien Braha (who is reportedly so detested by organisation inspectors that they code named him “Voldemort”) throwing a fit over the Ian Henderson Engineering Assessment which found that the Douma incident was likely a staged event. Braha is seen ordering OPCW staff to “remove all traces, if any, of its delivery/storage/whatever” from the organisation’s secure registry.

Minutes from an OPCW meeting with toxicologists specialized in chemical weapons: “the experts were conclusive in their statements that there was no correlation between symptoms and chlorine exposure” . https://t.co/j5Jgjiz8UY pic.twitter.com/vgPaTtsdQN — WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) December 27, 2019

The drop also includes the minutes from an OPCW toxicology meeting with “three Toxicologists/Clinical pharmacologists, one bioanalytical and toxicological chemist”, all four of whom are specialists in chemical weapons analysis.

“With respect to the consistency of the observed and reported symptoms of the alleged victims with possible exposure to chlorine gas or similar, the experts were conclusive in their statements that there was no correlation between symptoms and chlorine exposure,” the document reads.

According to the leaked minutes from the toxicology meeting, the chief expert offered “the possibility of the event being a propaganda exercise” as one potential explanation for the Douma incident.

i.e false flag
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The other OPCW experts agreed that the key “take-away message” from the meeting was “that the symptoms observed were inconsistent with exposure to chlorine and no other obvious candidate chemical causing the symptoms could be identified”.

Like all the other many, many, many, many different leaks which have been hemorrhaging from the OPCW about the Douma incident, none of the important information contained in these publications was included in any of the OPCW’s public reports on the matter. According to the OPCW’s Final Report published in March 2019, the investigative team found “reasonable grounds that the use of a toxic chemical as a weapon took place. This toxic chemical contained reactive chlorine. The toxic chemical was likely molecular chlorine.”

We now know that these “reasonable grounds” contain more holes than a spaghetti strainer executed by firing squad. This is extremely important information about an unsolved war crime which resulted in dozens of civilian deaths and led to an act of war which cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars and had many far-reaching geopolitical consequences.

Yet the mass media, freakishly, has had absolutely nothing to say about this extremely newsworthy story.

As of this writing, a Google News search for this story brings up an article by RT, another by Al-Masdar News, and some entries by alternative outlets you’ve almost certainly never heard of like UrduPoint News and People’s Pundit Daily.

Make no mistake about it: this is insane. The fact that an extremely important news story of immense geopolitical consequence is not getting any mainstream news media coverage, at all, is absolutely stark raving insane.

But there's one positive aspect about the trend: In the past it took YEARS for lies to catch up with their authors. Now the lies are being exposed in near-realtime.

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Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:43 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, Madcow disavows that anything she says is fact. According to her, it's all "rhetorical hyperbole, incapable of being proved true or false."

That's her defense in a libel lawsuit brought against her by OAN TV Network when she claimed that “In this case, the most obsequiously pro-Trump right wing news outlet in America is really literally is paid Russian propaganda ... Their on-air politics reporter [Kristian Rouz] is paid by the Russian government to produce propaganda for that government.”

Well, that sounds pretty much like it is a "statement of fact" to me, and certainly capable of being proved true or false.

Madcow is hoist on her own petard. She's either going to be judged as a blowhard or as a defamer.

> pic that blows out the frame - see above <



It's a bit surprising to me that it's taken this long for the Trumptards and Putin loyalists to make a concerted attack on Maddow's rep and person (nice pic, junior). Like, what's taken y'all so long? There was that stupid "crying" video that made the rounds, but it was such a bad fake that I think it just made the people who posted look the worst.
I was confident it would come though, so thanks for not disappointing! (btw she's a lesbian, shhhhh.....)

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Sunday, December 29, 2019 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, Madcow disavows that anything she says is fact. According to her, it's all "rhetorical hyperbole, incapable of being proved true or false."

That's her defense in a libel lawsuit brought against her by OAN TV Network when she claimed that “In this case, the most obsequiously pro-Trump right wing news outlet in America is really literally is paid Russian propaganda ... Their on-air politics reporter [Kristian Rouz] is paid by the Russian government to produce propaganda for that government.”

Well, that sounds pretty much like it is a "statement of fact" to me, and certainly capable of being proved true or false.

Madcow is hoist on her own petard. She's either going to be judged as a blowhard or as a defamer.

> pic that blows out the frame - see above <



It's a bit surprising to me that it's taken this long for the Trumptards and Putin loyalists to make a concerted attack on Maddow's rep and person (nice pic, junior). Like, what's taken y'all so long? There was that stupid "crying" video that made the rounds, but it was such a bad fake that I think it just made the people who posted look the worst.
I was confident it would come though, so thanks for not disappointing! (btw she's a lesbian, shhhhh.....)



I know that you're trying your very best to distract from THE TOPIC that OPCW top officials lied their asses off when it came to the (faked) Douma gas attack, and the the M$M isn't reporting on that concerted effort to support the jihadists in Syria but ... do you have anything to say ON TOPIC about the dishonesty of the M$M? Or are you just going to continue to layer your lies on top of their lies?

THUGR and JO are victims of the lying M$M. You aren't a victim, you're a purveyor.

The only motivation that makes sense for you to lie so consistently, with the whole book of rhetorical tricks at your disposal, from red herrings to strawmanning to appeals to authority to defamation and personal insults is ... money. So who's paying you, CAPTAIN MUSH? Who's paying you to lie so consistently?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

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Monday, December 30, 2019 12:27 AM

OH LOOK! MORE twisted reporting on Syria by the M$M! Let me unpack this article for you so reality doesn't get lost in the shuffle:

Russia and and Syrians have been blamed for bombing UN-designated "hospitals", which Russians and Syrians claim are actually command posts, munitions depots etc.

The responsibility for identifying these "hospital" locations is with "aid groups" like the White Helmets (yanno, that friendly group that set up the fake Douma "gas attack"). and these locations have not been verified by ANY outside group - not even the UN- so I guess we're just supposed to take the jihadists' word on that. The UN finally set up some sort of verification protocol. And there is the obligatory whining at the end of the article from these "aid groups".

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The U.N. Tried to Save "Hospitals" [my quotation marks] in Syria. It Didn’t Work.
Because they weren't hospitals?

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Russian and Syrian forces have bombed sites on a flawed U.N. no-strike list with impunity. Relief groups are giving up hope.

By Evan Hill and Whitney Hurst

Dec. 29, 2019
Updated 11:10 a.m. ET

A United Nations system to prevent attacks on hospitals and other humanitarian sites in insurgent-held areas of Syria has been ignored by Russian and Syrian forces and marred by internal errors, a New York Times investigation has found.

Oh gee, is the NYT now making a late attempt at legitimacy?

How about reporting on the OPCW scandal? Or is that too much to ask?

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The repeated bombing and shelling of these sites
which may be command posts, communictions posts, or munitions depots
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has led relief group leaders to openly criticize the United Nations over the system
Sounds like theyre blaming the UN, not Russia or Syria
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, which is meant to provide warring parties with the precise locations of humanitarian sites that under international law are exempt from attack. Some of these groups have described the system of identifying and sharing sites, known as the “humanitarian deconfliction mechanism,” as effectively useless.

A new offensive by Syrian and Russian forces that began in late December has devastated what remains of several towns in northwestern Syria and caused tens of thousands of civilians to flee.

United Nations officials only recently created a unit to verify locations provided by relief groups that managed the exempt sites, some of which had been submitted incorrectly, The Times found.

Well, I sure hope they're not relying on Bellingact!
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Such instances of misinformation give credibility to Russian criticisms that the system cannot be trusted and is vulnerable to misuse.
But of course this was all by "mistake" and the information was submitted "incorrectly", not that anyone was lying their ass off.

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“The level and scale of attacks has not really decreased,” said Dr. Mufaddal Hamadeh, the president of the Syrian American Medical Society, which supports more than 40 hospitals and other sites in insurgent-held areas
They claim to be "nonpolitical", and yet they only provide relief to jihadists? I'm sure there are many people in Aleppo and on the government-side of warzones that could use some medical help! Seems like their assistance is not aimed at "Syrians" in general, but only jihadists (and btw let's forget the fiction that these are "rebels" and "insurgents".)
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of northwestern Syria. “We can say categorically that in terms of accountability, in terms of deterrence, that doesn’t work.”

The Times compiled a list of 182 no-strike sites by using data provided by five relief groups and compiling public statements from others. Of those facilities, 27 were damaged by Russian or Syrian attacks since April. All were hospitals or clinics.

Says who? This very article admits that there was no verification system until recently, so are they b

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 10:20 PM

It looks like Turkey and Russia/Syria are heading for a showdown in Idlib.

Tureky ... you may recall, who supported head-chopping jihadists in Syria by laundering oil, providing arms and troops, and a porous border for aiding the jihadists in return for a USA-promised portion of Syria ... has decided to take a stand. Erdogan and Putin have had many phone calls, with Putin attempting to create a win/win situation and Erdogan saying (in essence" Nuts to that!.

This is despite the fact that Turkey has a major Russian gas pipeline thru it.

Turkey claims part of Syria as its own and has just shot down two Syrian jets, and Erdogan is asking NATO for help. (I don't believe NATO has the obligation to help out any of its allies in wars of aggression.) I hope that Trump and NATO decide to stay out; head-chopping jihadists shouldn't get our help.

But in a (possibly) related event, Zelenskiy has hinted that he may withdraw from the Minsk agreement. This, after Gazprom renegotiated a gas transit deal, and there was an exchange of prisoners with Russia (most of whom were eastern Ukrainians btw, not Russians)

Never one to believe in coincidences, I wonder if there were promises made, or threats implied, by the USA deep state to apply presure to Russia just as CHina is grappling with the coronavirus.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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THG
Friday, June 14, 2024 3:34 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

Russia can not afford a protracted campaign in Syria. Especially since they are expending resources in the Ukraine as well. Their strategy is to inflict as much pain as quickly as they can, to influence their position in negotiations.






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