Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria
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You like to pretend that you can surmise what was in the final report. And THEN you like to pretend that what you surmise is a fact. Unlike you, I'll wait for real information.
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Kiki, Signy's link is a good place to start to bring yourself up to speed:Quote:
Nederland - The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) is convinced of having obtained irrefutable evidence to establish that on 17 July 2014, flight MH-17 was shot down by a BUK missile from the 9M38-series. According to the JIT there is also evidence identifying the launch location that involves an agricultural field near Pervomaiskyi which, at the time, was controlled by pro-Russian fighters.
https://www.politie.nl/en/news/2016/september/28/jit-flight-mh17-was-s
hot-down-by-a-buk-missile-from-a-farmland-near-pervomaiskyi.html
At this stage, what do you think is the most likely explanation for the downing of MH17 kiki? Do you have any alternative theory that hasn't already been shot to pieces? Do you think, perhaps, that the Buk missile was shot from separatist territory by the Ukrainian army?
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Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/06/middleeast/omran-daqneesh/index.html
Syria's child face of Aleppo still caught in the middle a year on

With his wounds and bruises healed, the little boy seems much like any other 4-year-old -- he likes to watch Tom and Jerry cartoons, and play with toy cars and building blocks with his brother and sister.
... Omran's father says he never wanted his son to become a media icon and changed the child's identity by shaving his head and changing his name when rebels still held part of Aleppo. He has in recent months, however, allowed Omran to be filmed in interviews by Syrian and Russian media, and on this occasion by CNN
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Daqneesh said that after he saved Omran from the strike, members of the White Helmets volunteer rescue group took him to an ambulance. It was there that activists from the Aleppo Media Center (AMC) filmed and photographed him, and posted the images online to highlight the dreadful toll of the war on Syria's children.
"They started to film him. They began to film him before they even treated him, even though they said his injuries were severe," Daqneesh said.
With restricted access to Syria, international media has relied heavily on activist groups, like the AMC, to record the war. But Daqneesh claims the details of what happened to Omran were grossly exaggerated. It was his own blood that had spilled onto Omran's face, and Omran and his sister, Rou'a, were only lightly wounded, Daqneesh said. "The truth is one thing and they used him in a way that was not truthful and this really bothered me. The armed militia and their media used him in a way that was excessive," he said.
He also complained that some media organizations reported that Omran and his siblings had died. "They keep killing them and bringing them back to life. Then make liars out of each other and then go back and deny it again. This matter bothered me very, very much."
Daqneesh did not say which rebel groups or media he was unhappy with, but he claimed "armed men" tried to coerce him into blaming a Russian airstrike for what happened. He told CNN that he did not know who was behind the strike.
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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The Syrian town where children are bombed (yes, the regime is still at it):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-42776933/syrian-regime-routinely-bo
mbs-civilians-in-eastern-ghouta
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Quote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-missile-arms-deals-west-us-
Robert Fisk: "I Traced Al-Qaeda Missile Casings In Syria Back To Their Original Sellers"
... Veteran Middle East war correspondent Robert Fisk recently published a bombshell report entitled, I traced missile casings in Syria back to their original sellers
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Quote:There's a whole entire world of military procurement that "everyone" knows about, except for you and me. I stumbled across it when I was attempting to de-list certain pieces of equipment from the Pentagon inventory. The Pentagon, it turns out, has a long and quixotic memory! http://www.dla.mil/Portals/104/Documents/InformationOperations/Logisti
so it’s time for the west to reveal who they sell arms to.
In it Fisk recalls a bit of detective sleuthing he's lately been engaged in after stumbling upon a batch of missile casings and shipment paperwork last year hidden in what he describes as "the basement of a bombed-out Islamist base in eastern Aleppo" with the words "Hughes Aircraft Co/Guided Missile Surface Attack" emblazoned on the side of the spent tubes.
Of course, the Syrian government recaptured the area from Islamist insurgents including al-Nusra terrorists and their allies in December 2016, and has made rapid gains throughout the country's east and south since; and Fisk has been trekking around the country to see what he can find. His "detective story" as he calls it actually seems to solicit the help of the public, and begins as follows:
Readers, a small detective story. Note down this number: MFG BGM-71E-1B. And this number: STOCK NO 1410-01-300-0254. And this code: DAA A01 C-0292.
csInformationServices/FLIS%20Procedure%20Manuals/J6_itemidentification_170303.pdf
Quote:I once interviewed for a job at Hughes. It was a surreal experience.
I found all these numerals printed on the side of a spent missile casing lying in the basement of a bombed-out Islamist base in eastern Aleppo last year. At the top were the words “Hughes Aircraft Co”, founded in California back in the 1930s by the infamous Howard Hughes and sold in 1997 to Raytheon, the massive US defence contractor whose profits last year came to $23.35bn (£18bn). Shareholders include the Bank of America and Deutsche Bank. Raytheon’s Middle East offices can be found in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Israel, Egypt, Turkey and Kuwait.
Quote:One of the people who worked for me used to be a TOW operator ....
There were dozens of other used-up identical missile casings in the same underground room in the ruins of eastern Aleppo, with sequential codings; in other words, these anti-armour missiles – known in the trade as TOWS, “Tube-launched, optically tracked and wire-guided missiles”...
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A prior spent missile tube in Syria with "Hughes Aircraft Company" listed as manufacturer which surfaced in 2014 (not part of the same batch of weapons analyzed in Fisk's report). Notice the attempt to scratch off the serial numbers. Via Armament Research Services
The past year especially has seen an uptick in such systematic attempts to trace foreign-supplied weapons on the Syrian battlefield, most of them recovered from internationally designated terrorists groups (even ISIS), back to their origination points. We've previously detailed a number of these reports, for example: Journalist Interrogated, Fired For Story Linking CIA And Syria Weapons Flights as well as Weapons Went From The CIA To ISIS In Less Than Two Months — the latter based on extensive arms tracking and field forensics research produced by Conflict Armament Research (CAR).
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Like this ... http://support.outreachsystems.com/resources/tables/pscs/
but I'll see if I can be more specific.
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... Veteran Middle East war correspondent Robert Fisk recently published a bombshell report entitled..."
Seriously? "Bombshell" report?
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Fisk: "There's a whole entire world of military procurement that "everyone" knows about, except for you and me.
Hardly. Vice did a story about this a couple (?) years ago. US munitions and arms get bought and sold many times over - that's what war is. Soldiers even get bought and sold and flip sides from the am to the pm. Old as mankind.
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Quote:Mis-attribution. I said that, not Fisk.
Fisk: "There's a whole entire world of military procurement that "everyone" knows about, except for you and me.
Quote:That wasn't my point. My point was that the number that Fisk couldn't parse looks familiar to me. Having once dealt with military contract items, the number either looks like a DOD contract number (DAA) or a DOD part number. There is a giant online database of DOD part numbers that cover everything from missile launchers to office chairs to blood plasma to person-portable field equipment. If I could find that database again, I could compare the number format to the one on the missile casing. But mostly, it looks like a DOD contract number.
Hardly. Vice did a story about this a couple (?) years ago. US munitions and arms get bought and sold many times over - that's what war is. Soldiers even get bought and sold and flip sides from the am to the pm. Old as mankind.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Mis-attribution. I said that, not Fisk.
Fisk: "There's a whole entire world of military procurement that "everyone" knows about, except for you and me.
Duly noted, the point still stands.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That wasn't my point. My point was that the number that Fisk couldn't parse looks familiar to me. Having once dealt with military contract items, the number either looks like a DOD contract number (DAA) or a DOD part number. There is a giant online database of DOD part numbers that cover everything from missile launchers to office chairs to blood plasma to person-portable field equipment. If I could find that database again, I could compare the number format to the one on the missile casing. But mostly, it looks like a DOD contract number.
Hardly. Vice did a story about this a couple (?) years ago. US munitions and arms get bought and sold many times over - that's what war is. Soldiers even get bought and sold and flip sides from the am to the pm. Old as mankind.
The amount of military flotsam and jetsam out there with god only knows provenance could probably stretch to the moon. Just saying. Military purchasing is the wild west in many respects for all countries, and acquired with OPM (Other People's Money), so tracking is weak on purpose.
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Quote:Well, the DOD certainly tracked their miniscule assets in our agency, over 15 years!! I'm sure the DOD recognizes those numbers, and it certainly can track the missile casing, at least until it went out of their provenance.
The amount of military flotsam and jetsam out there with god only knows provenance could probably stretch to the moon. Just saying. Military purchasing is the wild west in many respects for all countries, and acquired with OPM (Other People's Money), so tracking is weak on purpose.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Does the UN have observers on the ground personally verifying these items?
Err, yes:
"“UNICEF welcomes the access granted to trapped children this week and can confirm that cases of severe malnutrition were found among children in the besieged Syrian town of Madaya following our participation in the second joint UN/Syrian Arab Red Crescent/ICRC humanitarian mission to the area on Thursday*.
“UNICEF is particularly saddened and shocked to have witnessed the death of Ali, a severely malnourished 16-year-old boy who passed away in the town’s clinic in front of our eyes.
“At the make-shift hospital UNICEF visited, there were only two doctors and two health professionals working under overwhelming conditions. The UNICEF team and staff of the World Health Organisation were able to screen 25 children under five for malnutrition using the Mid-Upper Arm Circumference measurement. Twenty-two (22) of the children showed signs of moderate to severe malnutrition. All of these children are now receiving treatment at the health facility using specialized medical and nutrition supplies that the UN and ICRC delivered on Monday."
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Is there an official repository of evidence?
Is the UN's first hand account of starving children not enough? What do you want the UN to do, publish photos of the starving children and their mid-upper arm circumference measurements...??Quote:
Otherwise, it's just gossip (or propaganda), wearing an official facade. Like a lot of things we're supposed to accept because some authority said so.
Right, rather believe that the UN's humanitarian offices are spewing gossip and propaganda than accept that Russia is doing anything wrong!
Great point KPO. You surely are the gate keeper when it comes to this topic. Great job!!!
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