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Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers

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Friday, May 31, 2024 7:23 AM

Nothing notable coming out this weekend. A few wide releases, but none of them are getting over 1,800 theaters.

This could help the overall numbers for the existing "blockbusters" a little bit.


Bad Boys: Ride or Die and an M. Knight Shamalyan movie come out next week. Bad Boys has a pretty good shot at the top of the theater counts when it does. I don't think M. Knight will get too many more than this week's newcomers.

I doubt either of these are really going to "hurt" any of the existing movies that are all going to flop already. We'll see what Bad Boys' budget is soon, but that's probably going to flop like everything else once we see how much they spent on it.

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:13 AM

netflix revenue compared to hollywood ticket sales
https://www.google.com/search?q=netflix+revenue+compared+to+hollywood+
ticket+sales


Four years ago, this was true, but things have gotten steadily worse for Hollywood: Netflix earns about $15 billion a year in subscription fees from its worldwide subscriber base. North American box office is usually between $11 and $12 billion. Of course, the studios get only about half of that box office (the other half goes to theater owners) So that’s $5.5-$6B. ( Netflix generated $33.72 billion in revenue in 2023. See how things get steadily worse for Hollywood? Netflix currently has 260.28 million subscribers. Up from 167.09 million members in 2019. )


Netflix’s New No. 1 Movie May Be the Future of Movies

People prefer Netflix instead of traveling to the movie theater.

By Sam Adams | May 31, 2024, 11:36 AM

https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/atlas-movie-netflix-jennifer-lopez-2
024-review.html


Over the long weekend, Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos got a bit of a roasting for telling the New York Times’ Lulu Garcia-Navarro that Barbie and Oppenheimer, whose combined global box office was $2.4 billion, “would have enjoyed just as big an audience on Netflix.” It’s easy to chuckle at Sarandos’ comments, as it was when Zack Snyder told Joe Rogan that his movie Rebel Moon—Part One: A Child of Fire pulled in more viewers than Greta Gerwig’s theatrical smash. But as Sarandos’ interview was being mocked around the internet, movie theaters were experiencing their worst Memorial Day weekend in decades, led, just barely, by an underwhelming start for Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga. Little more than a week after the prequel to the beloved Mad Max: Fury Road debuted to awestruck reviews at Cannes, the film edged out Garfield to win the weekend with a four-day haul of $32 million at the domestic box office, which was a far less robust showing than industry experts had predicted, and well short of its predecessor’s $45 million opening. Meanwhile, according to Netflix’s figures, more than 28 million viewers worldwide celebrated the holiday by firing up Atlas, in which Jennifer Lopez is a scientist who defends Earth from annihilation by a terrorist artificial intelligence played by Simu Liu. Vive le cinéma!

Common sense, and possibly even Ted Sarandos, will tell you that people don’t watch Netflix’s content the way they watch a movie like Barbie in a theater—or even the way they’ll watch Barbie when it turns up on Netflix. Although Sarandos, in his Times interview, tries to change the subject to the difference between theatrical and home viewing—his 28-year-old son, he volunteers, has “watched Lawrence of Arabia on his phone”—that’s not really the distinction in play. (People have, after all, been watching movies on their televisions for nearly as long as they’ve been watching television, period.) It’s not just the size of their audiences that made Barbie and Oppenheimer cultural touchstones, but the way going out to see them felt like being part of something, whether you were donning pink or mapping out the drive to the nearest IMAX screen. Netflix generates that participatory feeling with TV shows on a regular basis, from the unstoppable juggernaut of Bridgerton to the overnight success of Baby Reindeer. But looking over the list of their most-viewed movies of all time is like flipping through your high school yearbook, pausing over the photos of people you can almost remember, but not quite. God, this is gonna bug me, what the hell was his name … oh, right: Red Notice. . . .

I’m not saying that Atlas was created by artificial intelligence for the purpose of training viewers to accept the products of A.I. as a substitute for the fruits of human creativity. But if that were the goal, this is the kind of movie you, or it, would make, a slurry of recognizable faces and familiar tropes—a computer learns to swear!—that goes down easy and leaves no aftertaste. A.I. can’t make the inspired leaps a human mind can—it can paint like Picasso, but it can’t invent cubism—but it can nudge us to

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:37 AM

2024 will be worse then 2023, there's no 'Barbie' this year. 'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' can't make up the losses the studios will have this year. Maybe 'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' will under preform OR...both bomb.

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 1:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
2024 will be worse then 2023, there's no 'Barbie' this year. 'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' can't make up the losses the studios will have this year. Maybe 'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' will under preform OR...both bomb.

Who would want to be seen entering a movie theater showing R-rated Deadpool or Joker? Adults with self-respect will only watch those two secretly on Netflix and never tell a soul about the icky experience out of shame. Remember X-rated movie theaters? Adults stopped going to those theaters when porn became available on VHS and Beta. The same thing is happening to R-rated movie audiences staying away from theaters and, instead, moving to Netflix.


Porn Industry Statistics (Bigger than Hollywood and none of the videos are shown at movie theaters to ticket-buying, popcorn-eating patrons.)

The porn industry generates billions of dollars in revenue annually, with millions of websites and videos available online.

Last Updated: May 27, 2024

Written & Summarized by: Jannik Lindner

https://gitnux.org/porn-industry/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
2024 will be worse then 2023, there's no 'Barbie' this year. 'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' can't make up the losses the studios will have this year. Maybe 'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' will under preform OR...both bomb.

Who would want to be seen entering a movie theater showing R-rated Deadpool or Joker? Adults with self-respect will only watch those two secretly on Netflix and never tell a soul about the icky experience out of shame. Remember X-rated movie theaters? Adults stopped going to those theaters when porn became available on VHS and Beta. The same thing is happening to R-rated movie audiences staying away from theaters and, instead, moving to Netflix.


Porn Industry Statistics (Bigger than Hollywood and none of the videos are shown at movie theaters to ticket-buying, popcorn-eating patrons.)

The porn industry generates billions of dollars in revenue annually, with millions of websites and videos available online.

Last Updated: May 27, 2024

Written & Summarized by: Jannik Lindner

https://gitnux.org/porn-industry/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' will do well, but will they make a billion $?

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:35 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:

'Deadpool' and 'Joker 2' will do well, but will they make a billion $?

Why don't you predict that Francis Ford Coppola's latest movie will make $1 billion? Nobody is more Hollywood than Coppola. Audiences should be screaming for tickets weeks before it opens at thousands of theaters. Or maybe not.

Francis Ford Coppola’s Megabudget New Movie Is a Journey Into the Heart of Madness (exactly like Deadpool and Joker)

Megalopolis stars Aubrey Plaza as a character named Wow Platinum. It only gets weirder from there. (And more likely either to go bankrupt or to make $1 billion)

Francis Ford Coppola’s Megalopolis took 41 years to make. It might take as long to understand. Coppola’s magnum opus, which premiered in competition at the Cannes Film Festival, is a movie of extraordinary highs and baffling lows, alternately dazzling and confounding. Sometimes, in the same moment, it’s both. When I asked colleagues who’d seen it—at a remote early-morning screening, added at the last minute to accommodate Coppola’s preference for IMAX—they looked at me like the mute humans in the Planet of the Apes movies, as if their powers of speech had abruptly and unexpectedly deserted them. No one wants to trash an elderly legend’s passion project, one that, after decades of trying and failing to get it made, he finally financed with some $120 million of his own money—not to mention one that is dedicated to his late wife, Eleanor, who died last month. But it’s also a film that defies and even actively resists description, one that sounds even loopier in summary than its 138 minutes feel. You have to see it to believe it. And even then, you may not.

Now for the loopy summary at https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/megalopolis-francis-ford-coppola-mov
ie-cannes-2024-review.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
netflix revenue compared to hollywood ticket sales
https://www.google.com/search?q=netflix+revenue+compared+to+hollywood+
ticket+sales


Four years ago, this was true, but things have gotten steadily worse for Hollywood: Netflix earns about $15 billion a year in subscription fees from its worldwide subscriber base. North American box office is usually between $11 and $12 billion. Of course, the studios get only about half of that box office (the other half goes to theater owners) So that’s $5.5-$6B. ( Netflix generated $33.72 billion in revenue in 2023. See how things get steadily worse for Hollywood? Netflix currently has 260.28 million subscribers. Up from 167.09 million members in 2019. )



Netflix has never once shown a quarterly profit despite all of that.

*yawn*

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:26 AM

I see Second is just posting a bunch of stupid bullshit in here again today, huh.

He must realize that the fake verdict from the fake court case is nothing to celebrate too.



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Sunday, June 2, 2024 12:23 AM

Hollywood crews in 'crisis': 'Everyone's just in panic mode' as jobs decline

https://www.reddit.com/r/FilmIndustryLA/comments/1d2x28c/hollywood_cre
ws_in_crisis_everyones_just_in_panic
/

This Reddit thread reads to me like a bunch of ex-Democrat voters who are rethinking their life strategy going forward.

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Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:57 PM

It is not a new phenomenon when Hollywood realizes it produced a crappy movie but attempts to recoup its money rather than not releasing the crappiness. Audiences, except for teenagers and small children, are becoming similarly aware of how much crap there is. Instead of buying tickets, the audiences can watch the same crappy movies on TV for free.

20 directors who hated their own movies, from Joss Whedon to David Fincher

Not all filmmakers stand by their work. Jacob Stolworthy and Jack Shepherd run through the directors who have been candid about hating their own movies

Sunday 26 May 2024, 09:48

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/direct
ors-who-hated-their-own-movies-b2551700.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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