Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers
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UPDATED: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 01:06
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Quote:That stuff is really hard to find again, after stumbling across it.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:If you do find it, let me know. I'd love to see that.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I saw some charts at The Numbers the other day, don't know how I stumbled upon them.
They showed the worst performances in Box Office history. Almost all of the huge failures were from 2020 and newer.
Wish I could find those again, don't see them now.
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https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/budgets
This should be one of them. Look at the last list on that page.
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Quote:Not allowed in cinema in CA, UK, or Yurp. Some youboob contraption paid them to exclude cinema viewers.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I do not. If you ever find any I'd be interested in seeing it. Maybe Bruce breaks that down for paying subscriptions?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:Really? Why?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.Quote:
Do you have data showing what portion of North American Box Office is from Canada?
So the NA Box Office is substantially lower than the other films at the BO. I just don't know how much. I don't recall another film which had delayed, or staggered, or separate release for USA vs CA.
I don't get the youboob contraption reference, so I'm lost on that one. Sorry.
I found this, and it sounds right to me. Granted, it was a reddit thread from 5 years ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/cud5kf/na_how_much_does_ca
nada_add_to_domestic_box/
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How much does Canada add to domestic box office numbers and why aren’t they split out as their own country?
The two top answers in that thread...
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Canada has a population about 1/10th of the US. So I would assume Canada accounts for 1/11th of the domestic numbers.
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There was a post here about Canada box office numbers for several movies from 2015 onward.
I did the math and assuming those numbers were reported in USD, the Canadian numbers generally accounted for about 8-10.5% of a films total domestic gross.
Or roughly, 1/11th.
Probably around $1 - $1.5 Million is the missing figure with no Canadian box office.
It's a shame, but for whatever reason Guy Ritchie just keeps putting out the box office flops. I would have to imagine that this movie had already been greenlit and far enough into production for investors to pull out by the time he had his back-to-back mid-budget flops in the theaters last year. I wouldn't expect to see anything out of him after this for a while.
I think he'd be great at low-budget fare.
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I didn't even know it until today when I read that Kung Fu Panda 4 is the 3rd movie of 2024 to earn over $500 Million, but KFP4 is also the third movie to displace all of China's top performing movies of 2024 so far as well. I honestly didn't see that one coming.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2024
It will be interesting to see if or even when the US finally manages to knock China out of the Top 10 this year. Currently, there are no movies in the box office outside of Dune: Part 2, Godzilla x Kong and Kung Fu Panda 4 that are going to come close to beating YOLO, let alone the other 3 Chinese movies that are sitting at 5th, 6th and 7th place as of today.
We're already 1/3rd finished with 2024. They'd better have a few bangers coming out this summer to make up for the slow start.
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Quote:It is called "Prime Video" and they paid to keep cinemas excluded from showing the film.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I don't get the youboob contraption reference, so I'm lost on that one. Sorry.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Not allowed in cinema in CA, UK, or Yurp. Some youboob contraption paid them to exclude cinema viewers.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:Really? Why?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.
So the NA Box Office is substantially lower than the other films at the BO. I just don't know how much. I don't recall another film which had delayed, or staggered, or separate release for USA vs CA.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:It is called "Prime Video" and they paid to keep cinemas excluded from showing the film.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I don't get the youboob contraption reference, so I'm lost on that one. Sorry.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Not allowed in cinema in CA, UK, or Yurp. Some youboob contraption paid them to exclude cinema viewers.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:Really? Why?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.
So the NA Box Office is substantially lower than the other films at the BO. I just don't know how much. I don't recall another film which had delayed, or staggered, or separate release for USA vs CA.
I know what Prime Video is. Never heard it called Youboob before.
If this is actually an Amazon production in the background, the regular money making rules get thrown out the window and who knows how much money everybody is losing here or how Amazon justifies how expensive it was to make when calculating what little support this movie would give to the overall customer retention.
Any feature from 2023 that Amazon was a part of lost quite a bit of money with the 2.5xRoT. They probably don't see it that way since they're focused on the future and growth. They're probably one of the few companies in the world right now that can still afford to do that in Joe Biden*'s economy.
Who knows what deals were made before production began, but this movie's loss is probably far less Lionsgate's loss than it was Amazon's loss if they were involved.
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Per Wikipedia, anyway...
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Paramount Pictures acquired the rights to Damien Lewis's book The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare: How Churchill's Secret Warriors Set Europe Ablaze and Gave Birth to Modern Black Ops in 2015. Guy Ritchie signed on to direct the project in February 2021, from a script by Arash Amel, with Jerry Bruckheimer producing the film.[6] In October 2022, Henry Cavill and Eiza González were set to star, with Paramount no longer involved and Black Bear International now handling sales for the project.[7] In February 2023, additional casting including Alan Ritchson, Henry Golding, Alex Pettyfer and Cary Elwes was announced.[8]
Principal photography began on February 13, 2023, in Antalya, Turkey,[9][10] and wrapped up in April 2023.[11]
The day filming began, it was announced Lionsgate had acquired U.S. distribution rights to the film, planning to give it a wide release in 2024, and that select international distribution rights had been sold to Amazon Prime Video.[9]
Or otherwise... Who the F knows?
This one was a mess, and Paramount was probably really smart to back out of it.
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Dune part 2 seems to have saved Legendary Pictures / Warner Bros so its not all bad numbers but not sure about other studios, an over paid actor can make a box bomb and expensive productions box office turkeys. another year with flops
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Dune part 2 seems to have saved Legendary Pictures / Warner Bros so its not all bad numbers but not sure about other studios, an over paid actor can make a box bomb and expensive productions box office turkeys. another year with flops
I don't have any graphs made for 2024 yet, or data on individual studios, but I did just make these two posts in the Fall Guy Failure thread. They probably belong in this thread instead.
It's not looking good overall.
POST #1
I figured that I should add that these low numbers for The Fall Guy on Friday are due in no part to any other movie shining and taking away ticket sales from this weekend's #1 movie.
The Fall Guy made 4 times as much money as number 2 and number 3, and just a hair less than the next 6 movies combined.
In a normal box office market, ratios like that would be a stunning victory for the #1 movie.
I think these are real warning signs about the overall economy that nobody is recognizing yet.
We'll see what happens going forward. Hopefully a month from now the Box Office really picks up, because $65 Million or less total for the first weekend in May is a stunning loss for Hollywood.
This time last year, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 had just come out and the weekend Box Office was over $156 Million. The last week of April last year was over $86 Million. The weekend before that was almost $143 Million, when the Super Mario Bros. Movie won its 4th weekend straight. The weekend before that was another $143 Million with $200 Million, and $112 Million for the first two weekends in April.
The average weekend in April last year was more than double what this weekend's box office is going to make.
I know a good deal of this can be blamed on the quality and quantity of movies that have come out so far this year due to the writers/actors strike last year, but it's not as if there aren't any movies in the theaters worth watching at all.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254200830-Weekend-predictions-Book-Cl
ub-heading-for-third-place-as-Guardians-Mario-dominate
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254140830-Weekend-predictions-Guardia
ns-of-the-Galaxy-headed-for-110-million-weekend
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254070830-Weekend-predictions-three-n
ew-movies-in-the-top-five-but-Mario-will-win-for-fourth-weekend-straight
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254030830-Weekend-predictions-Mario-t
o-beat-five-new-rivals-for-box-office-glory
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/253980830-Weekend-predictions-Mario-u
nthreatened-by-six-new-wide-releases
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/253940830-Weekend-predictions-Mario-s
et-to-cart-off-200-million-on-opening-weekend
It's hot as hell here right now, but it's still early in the year and probably not that hot all over the country. If by mid-June the country is roasting and we're still seeing weekend after weekend with sub-$100 Million box offices, we're probably in bigger trouble as a country than anybody in the Media is leading on.
My guess is that a lot of people who wanted to see The Fall Guy this weekend chose to wait until it was on streaming instead of going a day without food this week.
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POST #2:
Oh... I didn't know these graphs existed. This illustrates the problem even better.
Domestic Weekly Box Office Totals in 2024:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekly/
Domestic Weekly Box Office Totals in 2023:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekly/by-year/2023/
Up through the end of April in 2023, the combined weekly box office total was already over $2.54 Billion.
So far this year, not including the first weekend of May, the combined weekly box office total is only $1.96 Billion.
We're already 1/3rd into the year and we're looking at a 23% drop from last year's Box Office so far.
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Whatever Happened To Randy Quaid?
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Quote:Since Quaid is insane the public service message at the video's end is very appropriate.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Whatever Happened To Randy Quaid?
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration:
1-800-662-HELP (4357)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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