As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Set aside your conditioning for a moment, that Israel is our "friend" in the Middle East and that Muslims are head-chopping jihadists. Bc, yanno, that's all you're allowed to see in the M$M.
Why do you keep saying "my conditioning" and other similar bullshit? I'm no fan of Israel, and American Jews are largely in charge of the cultural decay in America for generations now.
I view this as one faction I despise versus one that I find extremely manipulative, amoral, distasteful that also wields far too much power over the minds of people worldwide and is in severe need of being knocked down a peg or two. They have all the so-called benefits of being White when it suits their needs (really, just the benefits of being rich and powerful), but whenever they fuck up and/or try to get away with doing horrible shit they throw out the "Jew Shield" card and are immune to any criticism.
Also, I don't pay any mind to anything the Legacy Media has to say except for what not to believe.
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Even tho most Muslims aren't terrorists, I find their religion distateful and their treatment of women abhorrent. And those that are terrorists are amoral scum.
Their religion is a DISEASE and needs to be trampled into the ground so hard that it never reappears.
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BUT THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM TO SOLVE, NOR YOURS.
Exactly. That's why I say, no taxpayer dollars to Israel, no military support for Israel and certainly no troops sent to Israel, but my hope is that they eradicate the Muslim religion when this is all over.
Unfortunately though, it really IS our problem now. We've let these scum into our borders for decades now. The enemy lives among us, in our neighborhoods. Everybody will be singing a much different tune about EVERYTHING when they choose to make their move.
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The only time to get involved is when USA SECURITY is involved... and better border controls would go a long, long way to solving OUR security problem. Just as France has to solve ITS security problem, and Sweden has to solve ITS security problem... and Israel has to solve ITS security problem.
How about we just keep our fingers out of everyone else's business and mind our own?
I really don't think we're arguing here.
I'll leave it at that.
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No US money to Israel, but I hope they bomb out the entire region and bring the Muslim population down to something much more manageable.
a) GWB didn't solve anything. He just made a clusterfuck of great smoking ruins crawling with even more jihadists.
b) Israel doing the same won't solve anything either.
That's where we disagree.
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Quote:If the US had kept its fingers to itself, South Korea would be part of North Korea, or North & South Korea & Manchuria would be part of Japan, or the European Union would be either all German or all Russian, but whichever way WWII went in this counterfactual world, jolly old England wouldn't be English anymore.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How about we just keep our fingers out of everyone else's business and mind our own?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If the US had kept its fingers to itself, South Korea would be part of North Korea, or North & South Korea & Manchuria would be part of Japan, or the European Union would be either all German or all Russian, but whichever way WWII went in this counterfactual world, jolly old England wouldn't be English anymore.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How about we just keep our fingers out of everyone else's business and mind our own?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
And...???
So what?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Quote:In so few words, Signym, you gave away what is wrong with you and I didn't even need to torture you to reveal your true nature.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And...???
So what?
For example: if North Korea (created by Russia) was in control of all of Korea, there would not be a South Korea. That sounds obvious, right? But there is a huge difference between North and South Korea, a country that only exists because the US kept it in existence after the fission or mitosis of one country. The US stuck its fingers into somebody else's business, Russia's business of building a puppet country in Asia.
According to North Korea, they are the nearly perfect half of Korea while South Korea is hellish, full of evil from the US. But according to reality, North Korea is the worst country in the world, or close to it, and yet Signym writes, "So what???" As if being the worst half of Korea is nothing wrong, while the best half of Korea, the South, is nothing right. You are revealed, Signym, for what you are.
Russia could achieve in Ukraine what it achieved in North Korea. Millions died in North Korea by starvation, prison and execution. Russia killed 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor while taking control of it but has since lost that control. Getting Ukraine back will require Russia to kill more millions. For the time being, the US has stuck its fingers into Russia's business of killing millions of Ukrainians.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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No US money to Israel, but I hope they bomb out the entire region and bring the Muslim population down to something much more manageable.
a) GWB didn't solve anything. He just made a clusterfuck of great smoking ruins crawling with even more jihadists.
b) Israel doing the same won't solve anything either.
That's where we disagree.
No. The problem with GWB is that everything he did was a half-measure.
Immediately after 9-11 he should have turned Mecca to glass.
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A central issue in an intractable conflict
By Matthew Yglesias | Oct 18, 2023
https://www.slowboring.com/p/palestinian-right-of-return-matters
Palestinians who’d originally been living inside the territory that Jews won during the Israeli War of Independence (1948) left during and shortly after the fighting.
Specifying how and why, exactly, this leaving occurred is contentious. The standard Zionist position (the one I was taught in Hebrew school, for example) is that Palestinians voluntarily left their homes at the urging of the warring Arab states — primarily Jordan, Egypt, and Syria — with the promise that they would soon return as conquerors.
The standard Palestinian nationalist position is that they were ethnically cleansed at gunpoint.
This interpretive disagreement is an important point of contention when it comes to commemoration of the Nakba (or “catastrophe”), the Arab name for these events that Israel characterizes as a victorious war of independence. In pro-Israel circles, this terminology is understood to mean that Arabs believe Israel coming into existence was a catastrophe. In other circles, the term is understood to refer to the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians who previously lived inside Israel’s 1948-1967 borders.
I do not, personally, think that reconstructing strictly accurate accounts of events that occurred generations ago is generally all that helpful in solving present-day problems. I think Israelis could square the circle somewhat by accepting the Palestinian narrative about the origin of the refugee problem, but a version in which the “catastrophe” was the displacement of people rather than the creation of the Jewish State per se. In that view, Palestinians can mourn their Nakba (just as Israelis mourn the Holocaust and the expulsion of Middle Eastern Jews from their homes), while Israelis celebrate their independence. The harder question is what follows from this.
The right of return
The answer, in pro-Palestinian circles, is clear. Those who left and their descendants should return to the towns, cities, and villages where they lived before the Nakba. Here I’ll quote from Amnesty International:
“More than 70 years after the conflict that followed Israel’s creation, the Palestinian refugees who were forced out of their homes and dispossessed of their land as a result continue to face the devastating consequences,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Research and Advocacy Director for the Middle East and North Africa.
“This weekend almost 200 million people will tune in to watch the Eurovision song contest in Israel, but, behind the glitz and glamour, few will be thinking of Israel’s role in fuelling seven decades of misery for Palestinian refugees.
“There can be no lasting solution to the Palestinian refugee crisis until Israel respects Palestinian refugees’ right to return. In the meantime, Lebanese and Jordanian authorities must do everything in their power to minimize the suffering of Palestinian refugees by repealing discriminatory laws and removing obstacles blocking refugees’ access to employment and essential services.”
There are currently more than 5.2 million registered Palestinian refugees. The vast majority live in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). Israel has failed to recognize their right under international law to return to homes where they or their families once lived in Israel or the OPT. At the same, they have never received compensation for the loss of their land and property.
Israel as a whole has a population of about 9.7 million people, of whom approximately 7.1 million are Jewish. An influx of 5.2 million Palestinian refugees would completely upend the demographic balance of the country.
The normal response in Zionist circles is that this proposal would mean the destruction of Israel, or its destruction as a Jewish state. You’re supposed to say that Palestinian insistence on this right shows that the whole idea of a Two-State Solution i
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And...???
So what?
SECOND: In so few words, Signym, you gave away what is wrong with you and I didn't even need to torture you to reveal your true nature.
For example: if North Korea (created by Russia) was in control of all of Korea, there would not be a South Korea. That sounds obvious, right? But there is a huge difference between North and South Korea, a country that only exists because the US kept it in existence after the fission or mitosis of one country. The US stuck its fingers into somebody else's business, Russia's business of building a puppet country in Asia.
Again...so what?
Aside from constantly invoking your bete noir (RUSSIA! RUSSIA!) do you have any security reasons for us to involve ourselves on Asia's east coast? Resources we must have? Trade routes that we need to protect?
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SECOND: According to North Korea, they are the nearly perfect half of blah blah blah..
Russia RUSSIA! RUSSIA! blah blah blah...
HINT: Russia's over there. We're over here. These wars are just as pointless as Vietnam.
We thank you for your service. /snark
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Palestinians are sub-human Muslims and have the same rights that cattle have.
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