Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Big Serge overlooked the biggest part of the story:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BIG SERGE: Götterdämmerung in the East
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/gotterdammerung-in-the-east
The Soviet people were under attack from two directions: the Nazi military machine and the Soviet Communist Party. The imprisonment and killing of enemies of the people by the party not only continued during the war, but was intensified. A large number of the Soviet World War II dead were killed by Stalin, not Hitler — probably 10,000,000 more. Had Ripley written a “Believe It or Not” of incredible tales of murder and death, the two-front war suffered by Soviet citizens and foreigners subject to Soviet occupation surely would provide prominent entries.
As the Red Army retreated before Nazi invasion forces, the NKVD often tried to deport prisoners east before the Nazis arrived. In some cases prisoners were beaten and shot in death marches along the roads or, if evacuation were impossible or too difficult, prisoners were shot en masse in the prisons,15 whether pickpockets, crooks, black marketeers, or political prisoners. For example, they were shot as prisons were evacuated in Tallin, Smolensk, Kiev, Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, and Orel; in Tartu at least 192 prisoners were killed.16 Upon the approach of German forces, all in Minsk’s prison were killed. It held about 10,000 inmates, although constructed for 1,000.17 All prisoners doing forced labor at a mining complex near Nalchik were machine gunned to death. At the Olginskaya camp, more than 2,000 of those sentenced for over four years were shot.18 And in the Ukraine:
In the majority of prisons NKVD troops shot all inmates who had been sentenced to more than three years. In some towns the NKVD burned prisons with all their inmates. According to Ukrainian sources, 10,000 prisoners were shot in Lvov, Zolochevo, Rovno, Dubno, Lutsk, and other cities.19
In all, perhaps 80,000 Ukrainians were massacred during the Red Army retreat.20
Now, one’s mind can soon become dulled by all the figures being given here; one can read about 80,000 Ukrainians murdered but not absorb this magnitude. But consider: more Ukrainians were apparently murdered in this retreat than all the Englishmen killed (70,000) by all the Nazi bombs dropped on England during the war;21 it is more than all the American Marine and Navy battle-dead in all theaters of action in World War II (56,683);22 it is virtually equal to all the American battle dead in the Korean and Vietnam wars together (80,950).23
From the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
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You keep quoting the same guy over and over, and I keep telling you his estimates are suspect and disputed by historians.
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Among them, Soviet specialists Michael Ellman and J. Arch Getty have criticized the estimates for relying on émigré sources, hearsay, and rumor as evidence,[56] and cautioned that historians should instead utilize archive material.[57] Such scholars distinguish between historians who base their research on archive materials, and those whose estimates are based on witnesses evidence and other data that is unreliable.[58] Soviet specialist Stephen G. Wheatcroft says that historians relied on Solzhenitsyn to support their higher estimates but research in the state archives vindicated the lower estimates, and that the popular press has continued to include serious errors that should not be cited, or relied on, in academia.[59] Rummel was also another widely used and cited source[60] but not reliable about estimates.[54]
https://archive.org/details/rummel-r.-j.-death-by-government-1994
Rummel had a point to make and bone to pick. He was attempting to prove that "democracies" [not sure how he defines that] kill fewer people than communist nations [again, not sure how he defines THAT. "communism" per se has never existed and still doesn't exist.]
He wasn't a careful historian, but was interested in "psycho-social" aspects of society, so rather than pick thru dry dusty papers and numbers, or visitng sites and exhuming skeletons (or using the data that someone else developed) he used stories that people told.
Well, YOU tell a lot of stories, most of them false. Stories are just stories unless backed by evidence.
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But why do you keep dragging the thread off-topic? I mean, we've read about Big Bad Russia from Time Immemorial a couple hundred times by now, and when you're not blathering about that you're blathering about TRUMP! and TRUMPTARDS!
Reality a bit too much for you?
Military Summary Channel (pro-Ukrainian military blogger)
The Duran (Greek/British and Cypriot/American analysis)
Simplicious the Thinker
https://simplicius76.substack.com/
The New Atlas (American ex-Marine tech spec living in Thailand)
Also Scott Ritter (Marine and USA/UN weapons inspector)
Larry Johnson (ex CIA, and security analyst)
and others
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Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Well, now I think I've heard it all.
Western politicians are casting about for a way to scrape that tar-baby off. I think they truly ...TRULY... believed that Russia would collapse and regime change would fall into their laps!
Escalation... well, the west is running out, or has run out, of weapons it can conveniently give Russia, and further military escalation risks WWIII. Some neocons are on-board with that!
And apparently (some) western ex-diplomats (CFR members) have been trying to interest Russia in a "territory for NATO membership", whereby Russia get to keep what it has and rump Ukraine gets to be in NATO. Two problem with that: Zelenskiy won't agree and Russua- having been burned on Nordstream, the Minsk deals, and the negotiations on Turkey that BoJo torpedoed, won't have any part of it.
So here comes the incredible part: How about Kiev declaring a unilateral cease fire and then quickly becoming part of NATO? It seems like a bluff to me, but I imagine Russia's response could be to simply roll into Kiev, Odessa and so forth unopposed, and take over without firing another shot.
The finger pointing and blame-shifting is amusing.
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Quote:Between Trump and Putin, the topic is the same: the inability of most Trumptards and Russians to think their way out of a problem. As if living inside a novel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_and_Punishment , Russians handled their problems by murdering tens of millions. Signym handles that by accusing Rummel of inflating the numbers of dead Russians. None of the numbers are Rummel's estimates of dead Russians. These numbers are Russians' estimates, all gathered into one place. But you just waive it away as nothing when these murder sprees by Russians are the most important characteristic of the entire nation. That, plus the constant and unending threats to nuke the world.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But why do you keep dragging the thread off-topic? I mean, we've read about Big Bad Russia from Time Immemorial a couple hundred times by now, and when you're not blathering about that you're blathering about TRUMP! and TRUMPTARDS!
Reality a bit too much for you?
Back in the USA, the Trumptards handle their problems no better than the Russians handle theirs, but without murder sprees. The Trumptards blame all their problems on Democrats. Trumptards should blame themselves, but they won't because they refuse basic facts (much like Signym won't accept the basic fact of Russia's 64 million murders and counting):
Why Do Republicans Get Offended When Told Basic Facts?
• Over the last fifty years, every Republican President has seen a recession, while we have had only one recession begin under a Democrat, a short six month recession under Carter.
• Over the last forty years every Republican President has created a deficit at least double the previous record. Over that same time, every Democratic President (including already Biden) has cut the deficit by half or more.
• The last three Democratic Presidents (including Biden) have all seen unemployment effectively cut in half. The last two Republicans both saw it effectively double.
• Over the last fifty years, despite holding the Presidency for only 22 years compared to Republicans holding it 28, stock market return has been just over 100% under Republicans and just shy of 1,000% under Democrats. Over 42 million jobs have been created under Democrats compared to only 24 million under Republicans. Income growth averaged 2.2% under Democrats compared to 0.6% under Republicans. GDP growth averaged 4.1% under Democrats compared to 2.7% under Republicans.
• Going back to Truman, four of the five Presidents who have seen the largest increase in domestic oil production were Democrats (with Trump scoring the number five spot and Obama placing first). Only six Presidents over that time have seen domestic oil production fall, and five of them were Republicans.
• Since 1980, The abortion rate held steady under Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43. It fell under both Clinton and Obama, and under Trump rose for the first time since the 1970’s.
• Since the Nixon Administration, 338 members of Presidential administrations have been indicted on criminal charges. Three of these were in Democratic administrations, 335 were in Republican administrations.
• In the last century, only two Presidents have lost jobs during their administrations, both Republicans (Hoover and Trump)
• Over the last 80 years, five of the six Presidents with the highest job creation were Democrats, with only Reagan making the list. (Current rankings are Clinton, Reagan, Biden, Obama, Johnson, and Carter, with Biden likely to move into second place before the end of his first term.)
• Ten of the eleven safest states in the Union are blue or lean blue with Utah the only red state. Fifteen of the sixteen least safe states are red, with Georgia being the only non-red state in that mix (and until recently we would have considered Georgia a red state). (Scores based on a combination of personal safety, road safety, financial safety, and emergency preparedness.)
• Four of the five states with the highest poverty rate are deep red
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Russia's Desperate Mine Defenses May Backfire
Speaking with Newsweek from Kyiv, Kramer concurred that Russia's mine-laying approach in the south appears to have prioritized volume.
"Their minelaying is extremely haphazard, and it could cause problems for them," he said. "The problem with all these minefields is that the Russians don't do mine maps. In the West, in the U.S., whenever we lay out a minefield there has to be an extensive map that's given to everybody, especially friendly forces.
"You always have lanes in there so you can get through them, so friendlies can get through," Kramer said. But on the Russian side, "there's no mine-mapping whatsoever."
Kramer recalled images sent back from the front by Ukrainian troops he had been working with.
"They showed me several pictures of a wooded area, I would say a 10-meter [107-foot] square area," he said. "There must have been 10 or 15 anti-personnel mines just thrown on the ground, all over the place, right next to each other. They put them in trees too, they'll hide some so you get complacent, and you expect you've seen all the mines, and then there's some hidden. They're just going crazy with the mines."
Russian mine-laying, Kramer said, chimes with the broader low-tech, casualty-intensive military approach in Ukraine to date.
"They do the same thing with indirect fire," he said. "They fire on their own people if there's an attack on them by the Ukrainians. They don't care. The way they approach human life, they just don't care compared the Ukrainians. It could cause them some problems down the road, but I really don't think they care."
More at https://www.newsweek.com/russia-mine-defenses-could-backfire-south-ukr
aine-1821294
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*YAWN!*
Ukraine will prove to you how 'smart' Biden* is. 
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Quote:This is what fools say when they have no real purpose or direction for their life: "We must keep doing what we have always done." And here is Russia showing it has no real purpose or direction other than to continue as it always has: War in Ukraine could last ‘decades,’ ex-Russian leader says. No end in sight, Dmitry Medvedev reckons. “As long as there is such power [in Kyiv], there will be, say, three years of cease-fire, two years of conflict, and then everything will happen again,” he added.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
*YAWN!*
Ukraine will prove to you how 'smart' Biden* is.
https://www.politico.eu/article/war-ukraine-could-last-decades-russia-
dmitry-medvedev/
Despite what you say, Signym, America is doing excellent, but the most worthless people, the Trumptards in America and the Russians who haven't left Russia for better lives aren't doing well. And Biden doesn't care how the idiotic Trumptards ruin themselves because they never learn and have proved they can't. Biden does not care that the Russians left behind in Russia aren't doing well compared to the ones that leave. If the stay-behind Russians want to fight on forever rather than get real goals and purposes in life, go right ahead and ruin yourselves.
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Quote:And that is exactly what Biden* is doing. And what YOU are doing!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
*YAWN!*
Ukraine will prove to you how 'smart' Biden* is.
SECOND: This is what fools say when they have no real purpose or direction for their life: "We must keep doing what we have always done."
Russia has changed.
Biden*, and YOU.... have not.
Reality really is too much for you!
PS: Ukraine will prove how 'smart' you are.
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Quote:I'm not misinterpreting that you think Russia is living another thrilling chapter in its colorful history . . . by murdering Ukrainians and stealing their land. That leaves Biden as pure evil. He shall be vanquished at the polls in 2024 for providing ammo to Ukrainians and for signing the Inflation Reduction Act. The heroic Russians that die because Biden gave Ukrainians weapons made in America will always be remembered as martyrs. Long live the Reign of Putin, the destroyer of Ukraine! Long live Trump who will save America's soul from demonic Biden, the attempted destroyer of fossil fuel!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:And that is exactly what Biden* is doing. And what YOU are doing!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
*YAWN!*
Ukraine will prove to you how 'smart' Biden* is.
SECOND: This is what fools say when they have no real purpose or direction for their life: "We must keep doing what we have always done."
Russia has changed.
Biden*, and YOU.... have not.
Reality really is too much for you!
PS: Ukraine will prove how 'smart' you are.
In case you are unfamiliar with Evil Biden's Inflation Reduction Act
https://www.whitehouse.gov/cleanenergy/inflation-reduction-act-guidebo
ok/
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Russia Will Win By Nuking . . . Russia!
Putin's Cheerleaders Argue Over Nuclear Strikes on Ukraine
By Isabel Van Brugen on 8/22/23 AT 7:53 AM EDT
In a heated argument on state TV, Kremlin propagandists clashed over the possibility of Russia using nuclear weapons in President Vladimir Putin's war in Ukraine.
During a broadcast on TV channel Russia-1, Vladimir Solovyov, one of the best-known figures in Kremlin-backed media, suggested Moscow use nuclear weapons, prompting Andrey Sidorov, a professor at Moscow State University to question the capability of the Russian army.
An excerpt of the discussion was posted on Monday by the Daily Beast's Julia Davis, who wrote on X, formerly Twitter: "Meanwhile in Russia: propagandist Vladimir Solovyov erupted in his typical nuclear tirade, but was stunned and mentally glitched when his guest asked an unexpectedly honest question: 'Is our Army unable to win with conventional weapons?'"
The use of nuclear weapons has been discussed frequently throughout the war in Ukraine. The Russian president himself said in a televised address to the nation in September 2022 that he would be prepared to use such weapons to defend Russian territory.
"Why are we still dancing around? I think we should strike. As soon as they officially deliver [F-16s], we conduct a strike with tactical nuclear weapons," suggested Solovyov. "They're convinced we won't do it. This is why it should be done."
Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at Moscow State University, quickly disagreed, saying that he views nuclear weapons positively "as long as they aren't used."
"Then what are they for? Keep them at home? Use them to make sauerkraut?" Solovyov hit back, to which Sidorov said "yes."
The professor questioned Solovyov's logic, pushing the Kremlin line that parts of Ukraine belong to Russia. In 2014, Russia illegally annexed the Black Sea peninsula of Crimea. Putin also claimed to have annexed four Ukrainian regions in the fall of 2022—Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. Russia is not fully in control of any of them and foreign governments, including the United States, said the move was illegitimate.
"The first question is, where to use [a nuclear weapon] in Ukraine? If these are Western Russian lands, would we be striking our own? Ruining our own territories?" said Sidorov.
Solovyov responded by calling the professor "a pacifist in disguise."
"For God's sake, this is our territory!" Sidorov said, and asked whether Russia is capable of victory on the battlefield using normal weapons.
"When we discuss using nuclear weapons, I start to question: is our army unable to win using conventional weapons? It can only do it with nuclear weapons?" the professor said.
Solovyov appeared stunned at Sidorov's remarks.
"Hold on, hold on, hold on a minute!" he said, clutching his head and closing his eyes.
Newsweek has contacted Russia's Foreign Ministry via email for comment.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-state-tv-host-russia-ukraine-nuclear-we
apons-1821567
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