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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 7:54 AM

Putin’s adviser says U.S. is using brainwashing to make gay Ukrainian super-soldiers

The Ukraine's Armed Forces will become "zombified and unified through gay sex, along with cult members ready to sacrifice themselves," he said.

By Daniel Villarreal Sunday, August 20, 2023

An adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin has claimed that Ukraine’s military will become “unified through gay sex” like the Greek Spartans.

While the comment may seem bizarre, it’s just the latest example of Russian authorities using anti-LGBTQ+ nationalist sentiment to justify its unprovoked war against Ukraine.

“Military theorists and historians know which army in Greece was the strongest, remember? The Spartans! They were united by a homosexual brotherhood. They were all homos. These were the politics of their leadership. I think they are planning the same for Ukraine’s Armed Forces,” Sergei Markov, a former adviser to Putin, said while appearing on Russian TV, Newsweek reported.

Markov said the U.S. and Ukraine will use “neuro-linguistic programming” and other brainwashing techniques to turn Ukrainian soldiers gay against their will. In reality, there’s no evidence that psychological methods can change a person’s sexual orientation.

“They have an artificial political science fascism created by American and British political technologists. They will turn them into zombies, into cult members. I think they will force some to become homosexuals,” Markov claimed.

“These renewed troops of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, zombified and unified through gay sex, along with cult members ready to sacrifice themselves. This is what they’re preparing for us in the spring 2025,” he added.

There is some historical evidence to suggest that the Spartans of Ancient Greece may have encouraged homosexual activity as a way to encourage soldiers to stay in the military and fight for their partners’ lives. The evidence also suggests that Spartan soldiers were expected to age out of such activities after completing a certain stage of their military training.

The most famous gay military force in Ancient Greece was actually not Spartan but the Sacred Band of Thebes, an elite military force deliberately comprised of 150 gay or bisexual couples that defeated the Spartans and murdered both Spartan kings in a single campaign.

Regardless, Markov’s comments may be less interested in historical accuracy and more interested in inspiring anti-LGBTQ+ disgust in Russian viewers against Ukraine and its ally, the United States.

In an October 2022 speech, Putin said that the war against Ukraine was necessary because the U.S. wants to push gender “perversions” on Russian schoolchildren.

“[Western countries] spit on the natural right of billions of people, most of humanity, to freedom and justice, to determine their own future on their own. Now they have completely moved to a radical denial of moral norms, religion, and family,” Putin said.


Putin has claimed that the U.S. has used the North American Treaty Organization (NATO), the Western alliance seeking to limit Russia’s military expansion, in order to “contain Russia.” He has complained that Ukraine’s possible entry into NATO would “undermine Russia’s security” by installing NATO’s military at Russia’s borders.

NATO has said that it won’t send any troops to Ukraine. However, it has said it will increase its military presence along the eastern border of its member states closest to Russia in case Putin attempts to expand his conquest.

It has been over 540 days since Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022.

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:51 PM

Masked men claiming to belong to the Wagner group have warned the Kremlin to “get ready for us” after the reported death of their leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin. (Assassins who warn their target are like deer hunters who fire a warning shot before aiming at the deer. Neither will bring home the kill.)

Mr Prigozhin’s fate has been the subject of intense speculation ever since he mounted a short-lived mutiny against Russia's military leadership in late June. President Putin and the Kremlin have yet to comment on the crash.

For weeks, a question had hung over the Kremlin: how was it that the leader of a mercenary group had been able to lead his troops in a short-lived mutiny against the Russian top brass and still be swanning around the country – and indeed the world – with impunity? This, despite dire warnings from President Putin at the start of the mutiny that this was treachery, that the country was threatened with civil war and that no one responsible would go unpunished.

On Thursday, two months to the day from this act of rebellion, that question appeared to find its answer. One of two private planes flying in convoy from Moscow to St. Petersburg crashed in the region of Tver. Among the 10 people listed as being on board were Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner mercenary group, and his deputy, Dmitry Utkin. Prigozhin had led the mutiny; Utkin was the founder of the Wagner group and is said to have named it after his call-sign when he was a member of Russia’s special forces in the Chechen wars.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/russia-putin-prigozhin-plane-cras
h-killed-b2398611.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, August 24, 2023 9:10 PM

The Wall Street Journal
U.S., Ukraine Clash Over Counteroffensive Strategy
Story by Michael R. Gordon, Gordon Lubold, James Marson, Vivian Salama

U.S. and Ukrainian officials have been engaged in an intense behind-the-scenes debate for weeks over the strategy and tactics for reviving Kyiv’s slow-moving counteroffensive.

American military officials have been urging the Ukrainians to return to the combined arms training they received at allied bases in Europe by concentrating their forces to try to bust through Russia defenses and push to the Sea of Azov.

Kyiv has made some adjustments in recent weeks, but the two sides are still at odds about how to turn the tables on the Russians in the limited time they have before winter sets in.

“You don’t understand the nature of this conflict,” Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, the commander of the Ukrainian armed forces, the Ukrainian commander, responded in one interaction with the Americans, a U.S. official recounted. “This is not counterinsurgency. This is Kursk,” the commander added, referring to the major World War II battle between Germany and the Soviet Union.

A spokesman for the Ukrainian commander didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The American advice is based on the calculation that the surge of equipment the U.S. has funneled to Ukraine—more than $43 billion in weaponry has been committed over the years—is enough for this offensive and is unlikely to be repeated at anywhere near the same level in 2024.

“We built up this mountain of steel for the counteroffensive. We can’t do that again,” one former U.S. official said. “It doesn’t exist.”


It isn’t too late for Ukraine to make gains, according to U.S. officials.

Ukrainian commanders also say that time hasn’t yet run out on their counteroffensive, and Zaluzhny has told U.S. officials his forces are on the cusp of a breakthrough.

Yet deep divisions over the strategy linger. The U.S. for the past several weeks has urged the Ukrainians to mass their forces and concentrate in an area north of Tokmak in the south to push through the first line of Russian defenses, generally acknowledged as the toughest line to break.

While there are differing views within the U.S. government, one official said that Washington has conveyed “serious frustration” with Ukraine’s strategy, particularly President Volodymyr Zelensky’s focus on Bakhmut, which some Ukrainian officers see as useful to build morale and create a buffer zone in the east.

After U.S. officials cautioned against dissipating their efforts, the Ukrainians adjusted their strategy and went on the defensive in the eastern part of Zaporizhzhia. That change has enabled the Ukrainians to conserve their forces for the main attack elsewhere and limit their expenditure of artillery.

But U.S. officials say the Ukrainians are still spread too thin for a concentrated push south with numerous brigades deployed in the east and are still not combining the use of artillery, mechanized units and mine-clearing efforts.

Holding casualties to a minimum is needed to preserve their longer-term fighting potential, the Ukrainians say. But U.S. officials say the Ukrainians’ small-unit attacks on narrow fronts slow the offensive and give the Russians more opportunity to respond, including with mines that are dispensed through artillery strikes and units armed with rocket-propelled grenades.

The current state of play has sparked worries that Ukraine’s fight against Russia might be entering a stalemate, a contention President Biden’s national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, has denied.

“No, we do not assess that the conflict is a stalemate,” Sullivan told reporters Tuesday. The battlefield, he said, is changing every day.

At the heart of the debate between Washington and Kyiv is the U.S.-provided combined arms training the Ukrainians have received in recent months that was intended to prepare them for their offensive in the south.

The U.S. and its partners have trained more than 70,000 Ukrainian soldiers

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 9:32 PM

I see SECOND is spewing official lies like there's no tomorrow.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Friday, August 25, 2023 1:49 AM

The jet was a Wagner business jet, and the three top Wagner guys, including Prigozhin, were onboard.

There is better video of the falling Wagner jet, and pictures of the pieces on the ground. Aside from the fact that the wreckage shows no sign at all of anti-aircraft shrapnel, nobody has reported pieces of an anti-aircraft missile having fallen to the ground.

You will have to follow the link, but it is a chart of the jet's vertical ascent and airspeed. The pilot manages a normal ascent, but he keeps gassing the jets in an unsteady fashion, almost as if he was compensating for some onboard problem.

Not an expert, but this could have been a mechanical failure.

EDITED TO ADD:
Or it might have been sabotage. No evidence of having been "shot out of the sky".

AFA possible suspects, it seems Prigozhin was on a lot of people's shit lists including Putin"s. But it's unlikely that Putin has anything to.do.wiyh it bc he was busy convincing leaders and potential members at the BRICS summit that Russia is stable and the "mutiny" was meaningless, so why bring Prigozhin to world attention, again?

"Dima", of Military Summary Channel, is convinced it was the Ukrainian GRU, and that the purpose was to further demoralize Russian troops, who are already demoralized from fighting defense all the time.

A Russian commentator is convinced it was an internal power struggle within Wagner.

Some say it was vengeance on the part of some of a convict's family for throwing so.many into the fray at Bakhmut with little training and getting so.many killed.

The CIA itself has been mentioned as a possibility: They get to interrupt any plans Wagner had for Niger/ Africa, embarrass Putin with BRICS attendees, and stir up more trouble between Wagner and the Russian MoD. What's not to like?

Even France might have an interest in seeing Prigozhin gone bc if it's interests in Niger.

Analysis courtesy of Alexander Mercouris of The Duran.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Friday, August 25, 2023 8:03 AM

Well, I guess Zelenskiy didn't get to claim Rabotyno for Ukrainian Independence Day (today), like he wanted.

Rabotyno is the area of that giant early June clusterfuck of a "combined arms" attack where dozens of Leopard 2s and Bradleys got caught in minefields and taken out by drone and artillery. In fact, so many Bradleys were destroyed in a field before Rabotino that the field is colloquially named "Bradley Square".

Ukraine has been trying to advance on this area ever since, losing thousands of men in the process, and deployed their last remaining elite unit- the 82nd Brigade, along with the 43rd tank brigade, to take the village..

Apparently this is such a critical objective for the USA that Ukrainians will keep on it no matter how many men and weapons they lose. It threatens to become another Bakhmut.

And this area of the front is where Ukraine is shown the MOST progress, so far.




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Friday, August 25, 2023 9:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The jet was a Wagner business jet, and the three top Wagner guys, including Prigozhin, were onboard.



Prigozhin wasn't on that plane. The only thing he was on was the flight manifest.

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Friday, August 25, 2023 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, I guess Zelenskiy didn't get to claim Rabotyno for Ukrainian Independence Day (today), like he wanted.

Rabotyno is the area of that giant early June clusterfuck of a "combined arms" attack where dozens of Leopard 2s and Bradleys got caught in minefields and taken out by drone and artillery. In fact, so many Bradleys were destroyed in a field before Rabotino that the field is colloquially named "Bradley Square".

Ukraine has been trying to advance on this area ever since, losing thousands of men in the process, and deployed their last remaining elite unit- the 82nd Brigade, along with the 43rd tank brigade, to take the village..

Apparently this is such a critical objective for the USA that Ukrainians will keep on it no matter how many men and weapons they lose. It threatens to become another Bakhmut.

And this area of the front is where Ukraine is shown the MOST progress, so far.

Ukraine vs. Russia is Dumb vs. Dumber.

A Russian helicopter crew freaked out, tried to run, and was killed after realizing their captain had defected to Ukraine, official says. If the Russian crew was not dumber than dirt, they would have surrendered. If the crew had an ounce of sense, they couldn't have been hijacked by their captain and flown to Cuba, I mean, Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-russian-helicopter-crew-freaked
-out-tried-to-run-and-was-killed-after-realizing-their-captain-had-defected-to-ukraine-official-says/ar-AA1fIDzW


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Friday, August 25, 2023 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Prigozhin wasn't on that plane. The only thing he was on was the flight manifest.

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How you do anything is how you do everything.

Remember this about Prigozhin? Russia's Yevgeny Prigozhin, a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, said on Sunday that a former mercenary who was filmed being executed by a sledgehammer blow to the head after changing sides in the Ukraine war was a traitor.

Asked to comment on the execution video, Prigozhin said in remarks released by his spokeswoman that the video should be called "A dog receives a dog's death".

"Nuzhin betrayed his people, betrayed his comrades, betrayed consciously," said Prigozhin, who has been sanctioned by the United States and European Union for his role in Wagner. "Nuzhin was a traitor."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sledgehammer-execution-russian-me
rcenary-who-defected-ukraine-shown-video-2022-11-13
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If Prigozhin is dead, he got exactly what he deserved, according to Prigozhin's "moral" code.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Saturday, August 26, 2023 1:06 AM

Russians have emigrated in huge numbers since the war in Ukraine

The exodus adds to Vladimir Putin’s economic woes

Aug 23rd 2023



THE FIRST exodus came at the start of the war: up to 300,000 Russians fled the country in the first few months of their president’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. A second wave set off when Vladimir Putin announced a “partial mobilisation” in September, and desperate young men rushed to border crossings to avoid the draft. Establishing the precise scale of emigration prompted by the war is tricky. The Kremlin has, unsurprisingly, not published data on the matter. And independent estimates have varied from 500,000 to 1m. But a new analysis has narrowed that range (see chart).

Re: Russia, an analysis and policy network, has examined various estimates and available data from countries that have accepted large numbers of Russian émigrés. They found that between 817,000 and 922,000 people have left Russia since February 2022. The largest recipient countries were Kazakhstan and Serbia, each with 150,000 emigrants. But Russians have moved all over the world, including between 30,000 and 40,000 who went to America, according to the estimates.

There are uncertainties about the data. Russians may travel through several transit countries before settling. Others return home having struggled to establish a life abroad, often citing difficulties securing work. Some returnees suggest they will try to emigrate again once their financial circumstances allow it.

Emigration from Mr Putin’s Russia is not new. In the first 19 years of his rule 1.6m-2m people left the country (though the rate had been declining since the turbulent decade after 1989). The rate increased significantly around 2012, when Mr Putin returned to the Russian presidency in an election marked by fraud and protests (see chart). Yet the invasion of Ukraine has caused the single largest exodus prompted by political upheaval since the 1920s.

Also significant is the profile of those who are able to move. In general, Russia’s wartime émigrés have relatively high levels of income, social capital and education. That is bad news for Russia, both economically and socially. Re: Russia reckons that the wartime emigrants account for roughly 1% of Russia’s workforce, exacerbating an acute labour shortage. The Gaidar Institute, a think-tank in Moscow, said that 35% of manufacturing businesses did not have enough workers in April, the highest figure since 1996. Shortages of specialists are especially severe: according to one Kremlin official, at least 100,000 IT professionals left the country in 2022. With no vision for the future aside from international isolation and war, the Kremlin will struggle to stem the tide.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20230824145303/https://www.economist.com/g
raphic-detail/2023/08/23/russians-have-emigrated-in-huge-numbers-since-the-war-in-ukraine


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