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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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THG
Thursday, June 1, 2023 5:37 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.



I noticed that when SECOND gets his ass thoroughly handed to him, you step in with pure libel.
So prove it, stupid troll.






What you don't understand comrade is that your years of posting here are proof of your identity.

As for you winning out in any discussion between you and SECOND, if it ever happens I'll acknowledge it. So far your posted lies, your responses to what SECOND posts, clearly shows your identity to be that of an anti-American Russian troll.

You never seem to understand that your posts reveal you. I doubt you ever will. Not to worry though, you are not the only one who suffers this.

T




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Thursday, June 1, 2023 6:37 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.



I noticed that when SECOND gets his ass thoroughly handed to him, you step in with pure libel.
So prove it, stupid troll.






What you don't understand comrade is that your years of posting here are proof of your identity.

As for you winning out in any discussion between you and SECOND, if it ever happens I'll acknowledge it. So far your posted lies, your responses to what SECOND posts, clearly shows your identity to be that of an anti-American Russian troll.

You never seem to understand that your posts reveal you. I doubt you ever will. Not to worry though, you are not the only one who suffers this.

T







Nobody in the RWED or the entire actual real world needs your approval or acknowledgement. You are an idiot.

Time will prove Sigs right, just as it has continually proven you wrong.

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THG
Friday, June 2, 2023 1:41 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND, it's embarrassing watching you squirm.






Oh no comrade. Norway, Sweden and Ukraine all becoming NATO members. Oh no comrade. It's embarrassing watching you Russians squirm.

Actually, it brings me great joy.

T



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Friday, June 2, 2023 3:09 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.



I noticed that when SECOND gets his ass thoroughly handed to him, you step in with pure libel.
So prove it, stupid troll.






What you don't understand comrade is that your years of posting here are proof of your identity.

As for you winning out in any discussion between you and SECOND, if it ever happens, I'll acknowledge it. So far your posted lies, your responses to what SECOND posts, clearly shows your identity to be that of an anti-American Russian troll.

You never seem to understand that your posts reveal you. I doubt you ever will. Not to worry though, you are not the only one who suffers this.

T


Signym posted this idiocy:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Furthermore, whatever justice there was in fighting WWII in Europe, it was the SOVIETS that won. If you want to credit anyone, give credit where it's due: Russia. Our claims to being Europe's savior are 80% stolen valor.

Russia's military failure in Ukraine follows from its incompetent past. Highlights from Russian history:

1) Russia loses the Russo-Japanese War in 1905
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War
US President Theodore Roosevelt helped Russia and Japan make peace after the war. He won a Nobel Prize for this.

2) Russia loses WWI

3) Russia loses the Winter War with Finland in 1940
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

4) Russia loses the Continuation War with Finland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War

5) If Finland could beat Russia, so could Germany. Hitler decides to attack Stalin, who feared he'd be fired from his job and executed for the crappy way he handled the defense of Moscow. “For half a millennium, Russian foreign policy has been characterized by soaring ambitions that have exceeded the country’s capabilities. Beginning with the reign of Ivan the Terrible in the sixteenth century, Russia managed to expand at an average rate of fifty square miles per day for hundreds of years, eventually covering one-sixth of the earth’s landmass.” You go on to describe three “fleeting moments” of Russian ascendancy: first during the reign of Peter the Great, then Alexander I’s victory over Napoleon, and then, of course, Stalin’s victory over Hitler. And then you say that, “these high-water marks aside, however, Russia has almost always been a relatively weak great power.”
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/stephen-kotkin-putin-russia-ukr
aine-stalin


5) Russia loses 25 million soldiers in WWII, while Germany loses 7 million. Half of those were killed by US and British Empire soldiers. Literally, Russian soldiers are the worst in the world, but Stalin had so many excess bodies that he could throw their lives away for stupid and pointless reasons. (US deaths: 405,399 because US soldiers were valued by FDR ) During the war, Stalin continued his purges and executed millions of Russians because he had too many to care what happens to them.
"The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic." – Josef Stalin.

6) The USA built atom bombs specifically for Hitler. The USA could have nuked Berlin without any help from Russians, whose only real skill is dying for Mother Russia.

7) Russia loses the Afghanistan War.

8) Russia collapses because of stupidity and incompetence in 1991.

9) Ukraine is defeating Russia, but not as decisively as Finland did in 1939 because Ukrainians aren't particularly competent compared to Russians. As for Finland, it is the world's happiest country for the 6th stra

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Friday, June 2, 2023 3:17 AM

Russia won the war against Nazi Germany. That's a historic fact, SECOND, no matter how much in denial you want people to be about it.

And Russia hasn't, and is not, "failing" in Ukraine.

Your head is up your ass, SECOND. By now most people (except THUGR, who is either your sock puppet or incredibly conditioned) realize that everything you post is with the intention to lie. Bc everything you post is in service to your hate. If you do manage to hit on the truth once in a while, it's purely by accident.

You're a sociopath and a troll, Troll.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Friday, June 2, 2023 5:54 AM



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Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying.
Huh??

What have I "lied" about? Specific examples will do!

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THUGR: I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.

SIGNY: I noticed that when SECOND gets his ass thoroughly handed to him, you step in with pure libel.
So prove it, stupid troll.

THUGR: What you don't understand comrade is that your years of posting here are proof of your identity.

HUH?!??

I was against the Vietnam war, not bc it was immoral (which it was) but bc I didn't see the point. Does that make me a N Vietnamese?

I was angry about the invasion of Iraq (twice!) bc it was all done on lies and led to unnecessary suffering and death, here and there, and a budget blowout here.
Does that make me an Iraqi?

I'm against our use of jihadi proxies in Syria and Libya, and our continued occupation and theft of Syrian oil and grain, bc in addition to being vastly immoral it's also incredibly stupid and dangerous to arm and train extremists who you can't just "shut off" when they've served their purpose. Just look at Afghanistan and the leftover "mujahideen". Does that mean I'm Arab, or Syrian, or Libyan, or Afghani?

And I'm against our continued attempts to destroy Russia bc, once again, it's incredibly immoral and stupidly dangerous to test another major power with a nuclear arsenal. RUSSIA is only as big a threat to us and to Europe as we provoke it into being. It's like a bear... don't poke it, and it won' come after you.

We have earned ourselves a metric crap-ton of blowback, THUGR. Most nations are unhappy with our behavior, and the only thing that kept them from taking their revenge was fear. NOT a good place to be!

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THUGR: As for you winning out in any discussion between you and SECOND, if it ever happens I'll acknowledge it. So far your posted lies, your responses to what SECOND posts, clearly shows your identity to be that of an anti-American Russian troll.
Son, you are so far afield of reality I don't Know what to say. I said Russia would take Bakhmut, and they did. I'm sure they will win the war IN UKRAINE AGAINST NATO.

WHAT WILL YOU DO IF I'M RIGHT?



OH BTW I'm waiting for you to tell all of us WHAT is supposed to happen in two weeks? One week, now.
I suppose that's ONE way to make your predictions come true: Be real specific about the time, but fail to tell us the event!




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Friday, June 2, 2023 9:27 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia won the war against Nazi Germany. That's a historic fact, SECOND, no matter how much in denial you want people to be about it.

You heard of the A-bomb? It would have worked perfectly in Berlin same as in Japan. Victory in Europe Day was May 8, 1945. Hiroshima was bombed 3 months later. The US could have bombed Berlin first then Moscow next if only Truman had known the Russians would still be Berlin and Warsaw 46 years later.**

This is how the Russian Army killed millions of its own soldiers in WWII: Disposable Russian infantry troops in Ukraine often continue trying to advance even after being wounded and fight until killed; in some cases, they have been fired on from their own lines when they try to retreat.

Captured Russian fighters have reported executions under similar circumstances.
This rinse-and-repeat approach would have looked familiar on the Eastern Front 80 years ago.

The result was as grim then as it is now. Disposable troops are fed into the meat grinder and killed or wounded before they can gain enough experience to survive.

An army that can afford such cynical use of troops either has enough manpower to waste — which demographically challenged Russia does not — or is desperate because its forces have proven too ineffective for anything else.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-russia-uses-infantry-and-mercenari
es-for-attacks-in-ukraine-2023-5


Without end, the Russians threaten A-bomb use to compensate for a grotesquely inadequate army.

** The plutonium A-bomb would have been ready in 1944 if the Manhattan Project had made the implosion design a higher priority, but the Army guys preferred the gun-type bomb design. https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1942-194
5/implosion_necessity.htm


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 2, 2023 1:09 PM

More bullshit from SECOND. The Soviet Union used attrition effectively and Russia is doing the same, 80 years later.
Troll.

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Friday, June 2, 2023 3:47 PM

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More bullshit from SECOND. The Soviet Union used attrition effectively and Russia is doing the same, 80 years later.
Troll.

Russians died by the tens of millions. They died in vain because their tactics were not effective. “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.” The Russians have yet to understand Stalin's bon mot. Once a Russian does, they won't volunteer for Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 2, 2023 3:48 PM

Putin and the Psychology of Nuclear Brinkmanship

By Rose McDermott, Reid Pauly, and Paul Slovic
May 30, 2023
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/putin-and-psychology-nuclear-br
inkmanship


ROSE McDERMOTT is David and Mariana Fisher University Professor of International Relations at Brown University.
REID PAULY is Assistant Professor of Political Science and Dean’s Assistant Professor of Nuclear Security and Policy at Brown University.
PAUL SLOVIC is Professor of Psychology at the University of Oregon and President of Decision Research.

Shortly after the West rebuked Russia for its 2022 invasion of Ukraine and imposed financial sanctions of unprecedented scope, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he was putting his country’s nuclear forces on high alert. The Kremlin has issued many more nuclear threats, some oblique and some explicit, since then.

The mere possibility that Putin might make good on these threats raises great concern. Even before the war in Ukraine, Russia had reversed its longtime “no first use” policy, under which it claimed it would never go nuclear unless the enemy did so first. Some now believe Russia has switched to an approach known as “escalate to de-escalate,” which holds that nuclear escalation can defuse a crisis by proving one’s commitment to destruction and forcing the enemy to capitulate. In Ukraine, that could mean using a handful of tactical, low-yield nuclear weapons on the battlefield—which CIA Director William Burns and a number of high-ranking U.S. military leaders have warned is possible. Putin, for his part, has merely said that Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons if confronting an “existential” threat.

What constitutes an existential threat, however, is not clearly delineated in Russian strategic doctrine. It lies in the eye of the beholder—in this case, Putin, who retains full control of Russia’s nuclear arsenal, albeit subject to a supposed requirement that Russia’s defense minister and the chief of the general staff of the armed forces authenticate his launch orders. The answer, in other words, comes down to one of the most opaque aspects of the current crisis: the state of Putin’s mind and his outlook on the world.

Much of the debate around Putin’s psychological disposition has centered on whether the Russian president acts rationally. That discussion is an important one, but it has at times lacked nuance. A sounder approach may be to ask what common psychological biases and pathologies, based on behavioral theory and research, shape people’s perception of nuclear war—and how they may apply to the Russian leader. How far Putin will take his nuclear brinkmanship remains anybody’s guess. But a combination of known psychological and cognitive biases, combined with some psychological tendencies characteristic of Putin, could prove extraordinarily dangerous if he feels backed into a corner, with potentially massive implications as Ukraine begins its spring offensive.

SHIELD AND SWORD

A nuclear shadow has hung over the Ukraine conflict from the start. Although the war has been fought by conventional means, Putin would not have started it without his nuclear shield. And his repeated attempts at nuclear coercion have been a central element of his plan to achieve several war aims, although that strategy has met with decidedly mixed success.

For one thing, Putin has raised the specter of nuclear war to deter direct NATO intervention on the battlefield. This has undoubtedly worked, and it provides an ominous lesson to other countries—nuclear and nonnuclear alike—about the room for aggression below the nuclear threshold.

Putin also hoped that his threats would deter, or at least cap, the provision of Western military aid to Ukraine. The level of aid indeed appears to be limited by fears of nuclear escalation. But the success of Russia’s coercive efforts on this front is declining. A coalition of backers has slowly increased its level of support to Ukraine and has accepted at least some risk of nuclear escalation to do so. Its latest s

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