Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Pick one out of many words you wrote: "Russia really wants those missile installations in Poland and Romania gone, and I think that's a reasonable ask, since they were put in ostensibly to protect Europe from ... wait for it... Iran! CLEARLY that's just a bogus excuse for USA missiles on Russia's border, and that e
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russians were promised a buffer in 1990. Instead, NATO moved inexorably east, and NATO even destroyed Yugoslavia to make more little NATO-states.
Russia has been politely asking for a buffer zone since 2000. Instead, the west regime-changed Ukraine and promised it entry into NATO (and the EU).
Obviously, polite-asking the collective west doesn't work, since the collective west has no qualms about invading, destroying, or regime-changing nations that don't do whatthey demand, and the collective west is also "not agreement capable".
So where does Russia go from here?
Well, IMHO they started out with the idea that they were going to panic Kiev into negotiating, and it almost worked until BoJo set Zelenskiy straight a year ago March.
They've been slowly cranking up the "pain dial" and attriting Ukraine. But by now it's very clear that Zelenskiy isn't making the decisions (Altho Ukraine is paying the price) so IMHO Russoa has decided they need to make this painful for the collective west.
So I think there are a few things for them to consider.
I think Russia wants to bleed NATO as much as possible by drawing NATO in to commit more weapons and more volunteers and more "advisors" ino Ukraine, where they can be systematically destroyed. They can best do this by attacking portions of Ukraine that the west feels compelled to defend. Odessa and Kiev would be my two gueses, ut in order to get there they need to munch their way thru Kherson and Kharkov. And before THAT, they need to absorb thiswinter spring... summer?? ... offensive, and playing defense to Ukraine;s offense is something that Russia does very well.
So, absorb Ukraine;s counteroffensive then slowly make their way west, attriting as much western weaponry as the west chooses to commit.
Ultimately, I think that Russia might wind up militarily taking the entire Ukraine. Not that it wants western Ukraine ... who wants to administer and rebuild a bunch of Russia-haters in the unproductive part of the country? But in order to reach a settlement they can't leave any portion of Ukraine available to re-arm and start the whole thing over again.
If I were Russia, I would break off a chunk of Ukraine and set up a puppet government with a new Constitution that sys they must remain neutral and demilitarized, and let them join the EU. Make the EU responsible for its economic and financial well=being.
Also, Poland and other neighboring states - Moldova, Hungary, Belarus, and Russia = enter into a security guarantee treaty that requires that no neighboring states arm rump Ukraine. That would probably be ideal for Russia. (Other possibilites inclde paring out the various portions of Ukraine to the nations that contributedto its land mass, especially Poland. For whatever reason, I don't tink that Russia would try that, but that could be be wrong.)
The trick is, what next? Russia really wants those missile installations in Poland and Romania gone, and I think that's a reasonable ask, since they were put in ostensibly to protect Europe from ... wait for it... Iran!
CLEARLY that's just a bogus excuse for USA missiles on Russia's border, and that excuse can easily be argued down.
Also, I think Russia is working hard for as much of the world as possibe to de-dollarize, bc the pinch point in the USA then becomes systemic inflation, and THAT will swing the vote.
Anyway, Ill be very curious to see how this all plays out. If it turns out at all like I've reasoned, I'll be vastly surprised but also pleased with myself.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:Since buildings have a velocity of zero, flight time makes zero difference. Whether flight time is 4 seconds or 4,000 seconds for an American-made missile the Russian building or bridge will not have moved. Russian obsession with controlling their neighbors' lives and weapons means that Russians end up very poor compared to their neighbors and at war with them. Maybe the Russians could learn how to get along with people who aren't like Russians rather than murder them as if they were Russians who have different political opinions than Stalin or, for a more recent example, Putin.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have two words to answer your bogus post, troll:
Flight
time.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:OMG, you're stupid!!!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have two words to answer your bogus post, troll:
Flight
time.
SECOND: Since buildings have a velocity of zero, flight time makes zero difference. Whether flight time is 4 seconds or 4,000 seconds for an American-made missile the Russian building or bridge will not have moved.
For someone who CLAIMS to be oh-so-scared of nukes (RUSSIA!!! NUKES!!!! AAHHHH!!!!) you have no grasp at all of what flight time means?
I think even THUGR figured that one out, troll.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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Quote:Signym, like the Russians, you made it clear you know less than you think. Even the signature you use, with that fake Kissinger quote, gives away the truth you don't want to understand. What Kissinger actually said was:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG, you're stupid!!!
For someone who CLAIMS to be oh-so-scared of nukes (RUSSIA!!! NUKES!!!! AAHHHH!!!!) you have no grasp at all of what flight time means?
I think even THUGR figured that one out, troll.![]()
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Henry Kissinger said in November 1968, after Richard Nixon was elected U.S. president but before he took office: “Nixon should be told that it is probably an objective of Clifford to depose Thieu (South Vietnamese president Nguyen Van Thieu—ed.) before Nixon is inaugurated. Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.”
The quotation referred to America’s role in Vietnam. If America doesn’t stand by its friends and allies, the quotation explains, then it might ultimately be less dangerous to be America’s enemy.
Much more at
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/it_may_be_dan
gerous_to_be_americas_enemy_but_to_be_americas_friend_is_fatal
Signym, none of this stuff, whether flight time or the actual meaning of what Kissinger said or Russia murdering Russian soldiers in combat, are hard to understand, but Signym doesn't understand and is obviously unaware of that lack. I also don't expect Russians to understand that invading Ukraine and killing women and children is not advantageous for Russia. Russians have always handled the absurdity of how they live and die by denying that they do what they are doing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:In other words, you don't know the significance of flight time. Pretty much what I thought.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG, you're stupid!!!
For someone who CLAIMS to be oh-so-scared of nukes (RUSSIA!!! NUKES!!!! AAHHHH!!!!) you have no grasp at all of what flight time means?
I think even THUGR figured that one out, troll.![]()
SECOND: Signym, like the Russians... blah blah blah ...,
Well, not gonna 'splain it to you!

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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A Russian Duma Deputy stated during a public forum on June 1 that Russia has failed to accomplish any of its articulated goals for the “special military operation” in Ukraine. First Duma Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) Affairs Konstantin Zatulin emphasized that of Russia’s officially declared goals at the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine — “denazification, demilitarization, the neutrality of Ukraine, and the protection of the inhabitants of the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics”—none have actually been met.[16] Zatulin further noted that as the war has worn on, these goals have ceased to hold actual meaning and suggested that Russian forces should have been more aggressive in efforts to push Ukrainian forces back from the borders of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts. Zatulin’s critical observations are noteworthy considering that he is a contributor to the Kremlin-affiliated Valdai Discussion Club, which famously upholds views complementary to Russian President Vladimir Putin and the official Kremlin propaganda line.[17] Zatulin’s apparent views of the war represent an absolute minority within the Russian domestic political environment, as self-censorship and general information space repressions are commonplace. However, such statements coming from a relatively mainstream and well-platformed official suggest that a small subset of the predominant pro-war Russian political faction may feel somewhat empowered to voice discontent and advocate for escalated goals as the war continues.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-3-2023
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Russians have been criticizing the military for not being aggressive enough since the beginning of the SMO. It's very hard to wage a war of attrition because the front is mostly static and there will be tactical withdrawals. Russians get tired of seeing their troops apparently not making "progress". I imagine even infantry get tired of fighting over the same city blocks over and over again.
Be prepared to see a lot of criticism of the Russia MoD over Ukrainian incursions into Russian Belgorad. IMHO they may be intended to draw Russian troops from Kiev's intended offensive (Zaporozhye?) and also have the beneficial (for Kiev) effect of ramping up criticism of Russia MoD's handling of the war.
But Russia IS making progress. Adiivka and Marinka are both almost surrounded, as bitterly fought over as Bakhmut (but w/o a running commentary from anyone like Progozhin) and which will probably be taken by the end of the month. THAT will end Kiev's shelling of civilians in Donetsk City.
And sooner or later, Kiev will be compelled by the west to launch its Great Counteroffensive and the Russian military will get to do its stuff for real. Some (not me) predict that once the Great Counteroffensive is neutralized, Russian MoD will launch Big Arrow offensives. IMHO they will just keep munching away at the front line, progressing towards Kharkhov towards Kiev, and Kherson towards Odessa.
But we will have to wait and see.
Patience, grasshoppers.
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Quote:Russian State Duma member Konstantin Zatulin said on Thursday that Moscow failed to achieve goals it had set in its ongoing war in Ukraine, which Russian President Vladimir Putin launched last February.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But we will have to wait and see.
Patience, grasshoppers.
Zatulin, who serves as the first deputy chairman of the Russian State Duma Committee of CIS affairs, was discussing the Russia-Ukraine war at a foresight forum when he admitted that it was obvious that Ukraine is "dangerous."
The Russian lawmaker added that Moscow doesn't have a solid standing in Ukraine or "enough grounds" to consider whether or not everything has been accomplished or to "assume that we will definitely win."
"What were our goals officially declared at the beginning of the military operation?" Zatulin asked. "You all remember—denazification, demilitarization, the neutrality of Ukraine and the protection of the inhabitants of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, who have suffered all this time. On which of these items have we achieved results to date? None."
Zatulin argued that the concept of a "neutral" Ukraine has "ceased to have any meaning."
This would mean that Ukraine would act as a neutral liaison between the West and Russia, possibly ditch its ambitions to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), and to refuse hosting any NATO troops or installations on its territory in exchange for potential security agreements that would prevent another Russian invasion in the future.
"Moreover, some of them [objectives] have ceased to have any meaning. For example, 'neutrality of Ukraine.' What is the meaning of this requirement? None at the moment," Zatulin said. "It will no longer be neutral if it continues to exist. And now the question—since it has already been said here that 'the statehood of Ukraine no longer exists'—will Ukraine under the leadership of [President Volodymyr] Zelensky or his successors exist as a result of everything or not?"
Russia's war has extended to major cities in Ukraine including Kyiv, Kherson, Odessa, and Bakhmut—the latter being the site of intense fighting between Russian and Ukrainian troops. Throughout the course of the war, Western nations, including NATO members, have continued to send humanitarian and military aid to Ukraine and have provided heavy artillery, tanks, and advanced defense equipment to help the war-torn country prepare for its spring counteroffensive.
Zelensky told The Wall Street Journal in an article published on Saturday that his forces are ready to secure victory in its long-awaited counteroffensive, although he admitted that Kyiv could suffer great losses. The Ukrainian president added that he did not know how long the counteroffensive would take and expressed concerns about Moscow's air superiority.
"It can go a variety of ways, but we are going to do it, and we are ready," he told the newspaper. "We strongly believe that we will succeed."
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-lawmaker-admits-moscow-failed-achieve
-goals-ukraine-1804310
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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