Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
POSTED BY: captaincrunch
UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 21:09
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I guess we're all just waiting fpr the autumn... winter ... ... spring summer??? Kiev offensive.
Ukraine's SBU is resorting to assasinations, assasiantion attempts, and pinprick attacks in Russia proper.
Bakhmut and Marinka are 90+pct undr Russian control. There have been several "reconnaissance in force" attacks in the Zaparozhye area, and Russia is evacuating the towns around there. I haven't read a complete list of evacuated towns nor looked at map to locate them, but I wonder if they're all around the Zaparozhye Nuclear Power Plant, which is the one big prize and/or target in the region. I can't imagine Kiev ultimately winning a conventional push, but I CAN imagine Kiev ordering a terror attack on the power plant and despoiling a large part of Ukraine with nuclear fallout.
Except for that, or maybe flooding the Dnieper, I can't imagine Kiev managing to uncork any big surprises. No "wunderwaffe" in the arsenal.
what I'm hearing is that there is a policy struggle in the western world: one USA faction wants to call it quits in Ukraine and focus on Taiwan and China while the EU portion wants/needs cotinued relations with China for economic reasons, and one USA and EU faction wants to go full steam ahead and is pushing a reluctant Kiev to launch the offensive NOW, stop stalling with excuses about the weather and lack of munitions and weapons and get ON with it.
What I don't understand is, if it's as hopeless for Kiev as it looks right now, why the urgent urgency? why push for a defeat now instead of a defeat later? Are "they" (the DNCneocons and neolibs) hoping to get Ukraine's defeat out of the way and memory-holed well before 2024? There must be a reason for the push, I just can't imagine what that is.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?
THUGR: Too funny...comrade signym has been threatening Ukraine would fold like a cheap suit for over a year now. I told you comrade that Russia was a paper tiger. The first time, many many years ago.
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
No treaty or agreement requires the United States to come to Ukraine’s aid. Although the United States had strongly supported Ukrainian sovereignty and independence, the United States has no obligation to go to its defense.
If this crisis was happening with the Baltic states? Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania the situation would be different. These countries are NATO members, and the United States has a treaty obligation to them.
Also, the president of Ukraine has said many times he did not want the American army to get directly involved. That he only wanted weapons.
Signym says with bitterness, the Russian army’s plan is to slowly reduce the Ukrainian army’s military strength. You can see me quoting her here. She describes it as attrition. “The action or process of gradually reducing the strength or effectiveness of someone or something through sustained attack or pressure.”
So, I ask her, where the fuck is the logic in that? If this truly is Russia’s plan, then their approach is to watch their own military get destroyed in the process. I’d add, Ukraine’s military is stronger today than it’s ever been. No way can Russia claim the same. That fact alone is evidence Russia is getting its ass kicked.
And Signym, tick tock
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THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
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Quote:The Russians killed 62 million Russians. The Germans didn't do it. It was Russians killing Russians but you have not acknowledged that despite it being old news, so why would you acknowledge that any Russians have been killed by Ukrainians?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
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Russians murdered more innocent people just in their labor camps than the Nazis were machine gunning in the gullies and gassing in their concentration camps.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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SECOND: By now you must realize I shitcan every one of your posts. Your hx of mouthbreathing crap caught up with you a long time ago.
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Quote:Russia did the same to Russians, killing 62 million of them, but those innocent dead won't be mentioned on Victory Day, tomorrow.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: By now you must realize I shitcan every one of your posts. Your hx of mouthbreathing crap caught up with you a long time ago.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles
Multiple sources identified the nose cone as likely coming from a Kinzhal missile, which officially goes by the unwieldy designation 9-S-7760, and is codenamed the ‘Killjoy’ by NATO.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-a-patriot-miss
ile-has-killed-one-of-russia-s-hypersonic-missiles/ar-AA1aTAXj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a7b9022cd5e743e18c2a16ca8ded5a0c&ei=21
Oops, sorry comrade Signym.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".Quote:
For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles
Multiple sources identified the nose cone as likely coming from a Kinzhal missile, which officially goes by the unwieldy designation 9-S-7760, and is codenamed the ‘Killjoy’ by NATO.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-a-patriot-miss
ile-has-killed-one-of-russia-s-hypersonic-missiles/ar-AA1aTAXj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a7b9022cd5e743e18c2a16ca8ded5a0c&ei=21
THUGR:: Oops, sorry comrade Signym.
Denied by Kiev itself.
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Ukrainian Air Force denies reports Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile downed over Kyiv
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-air-force-denies-reports-132000149.ht
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YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!
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Quote:Signym, do you remember that the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, the Moskva, was sunk early in the conflict? Russians said it didn't happen, but Russians were lying because it is effortless for Russians to lie, like breathing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!
8 May, 2023 U.S. confirms Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to have been destroyed by Patriot system
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/u-s-confirms-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-mi
ssile-to-have-been-destroyed-by-patriot-system/
There is only one Moskva, so Ukraine can't sink it a second time to prove the Russians were lying, but there are more Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles for Ukraine to shoot down to prove the Russians are lying.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:Why would Kiev deny shooting down a hypersonic missile?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, do you remember that the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, the Moskva, was sunk early in the conflict? Russians said it didn't happen, but Russians were lying because it is effortless for Russians to lie, like breathing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!
8 May, 2023 U.S. confirms Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to have been destroyed by Patriot system
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/u-s-confirms-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-mi
ssile-to-have-been-destroyed-by-patriot-system/
There is only one Moskva, so Ukraine can't sink it a second time to prove the Russians were lying, but there are more Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles for Ukraine to shoot down to prove the Russians are lying.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
This is how it works, SECOND: Russia doesn't report all its losses, but when they DO report them, they seem to be accurate. (For example, the Russian MoD's KIA report tallies with the BBC's independent estimate.) When the Russian MoD claims territory, or #of Kiev weapons destroyed, it winds up looking accurate.
But Kiev lies about EVERYTHING: territory gained or lost, Ukrainian losses, Russian losses, weapons available... I shitcan everything "Kiev says", just like I shitcan everything you post.
Because for them, and for you, there are no "facts", only words as weapons. You, and they, will say anything... anything ... to advance your "war" (whatever it is).
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