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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, April 28, 2023 3:40 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

HOWEVER, the IRS has Trump's records and is presumably auditing them.

That raises the odds considerably that if there is cheating going on, it will be detected.

You're still an irrational troll, troll.

You know what is next: Trump refuses to make public his 2021, 2022, and 2023 tax returns because -- wait for it -- Trump says those years are under audit by the IRS. Then Signym will say that does not indicate Trump is a crook, only that he is being audited and that his lawyers advised him not to release his tax returns. And the Trumptards -- from my real experience, all are as crooked as Trump, but not as wealthy -- will vote for Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 28, 2023 3:54 AM

Trump doesn't need to make his returns public. The agency that is supposed to have them, has them.
You're still an irrational troll, troll.

Are you going to get off your Trump fixation any time soon? Or are you still going to harp about Trump and "Trumptards" in a thread ostensibly about Ukraine and Russia?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Friday, April 28, 2023 4:17 AM

From the Military Summary Channel (a pro-Ukrainian vlogger)...



"We expect, and everybody expects, that Bakhmut is going to fall entirely" (2:05)

"Russians have almost encircled Marinka" (3:02) (Marinka is the heavily-fortified position from which Ukies shell Donetsk city)

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Friday, April 28, 2023 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump doesn't need to make his returns public. The agency that is supposed to have them, has them.
You're still an irrational troll, troll.

Are you going to get off your Trump fixation any time soon? Or are you still going to harp about Trump and "Trumptards" in a thread ostensibly about Ukraine and Russia?

I guess you totally forgot that Trump went to the Supreme Court, twice, to prevent his tax returns from being publicized. That is not the actions of a man who paid his taxes and is running for President.

Finally, you can see those returns at https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns

But that is not the end of it, Signym. The numbers on IRS forms could be completely fake. Each number must be compared to the buildings out in the world and the IRS has not done that work of going to those buildings and counting up the actual money. It is exactly like comparing Russia's claims with what actually happened. Russia can claim anything it wants about casualties because nothing has been verified as true. Some trustworthy auditors must count the Russian bodies by digging up some graves, but remember that Russia could be hiding bodies just like Trump could be hiding money.

Trump claims a loss of (65,905,501) on page 185 of https://s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs.taxnotes.com/2022/Trump_2020_1040.pdf
A real auditor would say to Trump: "If you cannot prove that number to me, I am throwing your fat ass into jail. Show me your proof, Donald."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 28, 2023 5:54 PM

Reframing the US policy debate on a ‘long war’ in Ukraine By Nataliya Bugayova
April 27, 2023

The policy debate about the US facing a “long war” in Ukraine is misframed. The catchall phrase “long war” is skewed by legacy US thinking about wars, intentional Kremlin information operations, and the inherent difficulties in parsing battlefield realities.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is not a long war for the US, because the US is not fighting this war. Ukraine is defending itself against an unprovoked Russian invasion, and the US is supporting Ukraine. Comparisons to Iraq or Afghanistan are not appropriate.

The US is not fighting a proxy war. Ukraine’s choice to defend itself against Russia’s genocidal efforts is exogenous to the West’s decision-making. Ukraine would have defended itself against Russia’s 2022 invasion in the absence of support from its partners — at the cost of more territory and lives. Even in 2014, when Ukraine’s military capability and Western willingness to counter Russia were minimal, barely equipped Ukrainian volunteers rushed to the frontline to combat Russian aggression.[1]

The West and Ukraine are not protracting or spreading this war; Russia is. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is entirely a war of choice. The Kremlin chose to launch a full-scale invasion despite the years-long presence of a peace framework (that the Kremlin routinely violated) and years of diplomatic efforts by Ukraine and the West. The Kremlin is choosing to protract this war and can choose to end it at any point.

Fixating on the “long war” scenario obfuscates the very real US interest at stake in Ukraine. The US problem is not a long war per se. The US problem is the risk of escalation in which the US will need to fight in this war — a risk that increases if Russia’s war protracts and if Russia keeps its gains in Ukraine.

Metering Western support to Ukraine, inadequately resourcing all of the required Ukrainian counteroffensives — not just the next one, and setting premature expectations of negotiations with Russia, will protract Russia’s war and increase the associated risks for the US. The length and effects of this war are path-dependent on at least two variables:

More at https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/reframing-us-policy-deba
te-%E2%80%98long-war%E2%80%99-ukraine


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 28, 2023 11:24 PM

GENEVA, April 28 (Reuters) - A United Nations committee said on Friday it was deeply concerned about human rights violations by Russian forces and private military companies in Ukraine, including enforced disappearances, torture, rape and extrajudicial executions.

In its findings on Russia, the U.N. Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination called on the Russian authorities to investigate allegations of human rights violations committed during the invasion of Ukraine.

"The Committee was deeply concerned about the grave human rights violations committed during the ongoing armed conflict by the Russian Federation's military forces and private military companies ...," it said in a statement.

There was no immediate comment from the Russian permanent mission to the United Nations in Geneva.

In its report, the committee listed excessive use of force, arbitrary detentions, killings and the forcible transfer of children from Ukraine to Russia among the violations committed.

Russia, which the U.N. committee said had refused to provide it with information on the conflict, has denied committing atrocities and deliberately attacking civilians in Ukraine. It denies deporting Ukrainian children to Russia, saying it has evacuated them to keep them safe.

"The refusal of the Russian Federation to address these issues did not hinder us from addressing them in our concluding observations, but of course it made our work more difficult," committee member Mehrdad Payandeh told reporters in Geneva.

"We would have liked to engage in a constructive dialogue."

The U.N. committee also noted its concern about the Russian military drafting soldiers from ethnic minorities and "incitement to racial hatred and propagation of racist stereotypes against ethnic Ukrainians", including on state-owned television.

Rights activists from one region, Buryatia, have accused the authorities of focusing their draft efforts on far-flung regions with ethnic minorities to avoid sparking popular anger in Moscow and other major cities.

Reporting by Gabrielle Tétrault-Farber; Editing by William Maclean

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/un-body-deeply-concerned-grave-hu
man-rights-abuses-by-russia-ukraine-2023-04-28
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 29, 2023 5:53 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump doesn't need to make his returns public. The agency that is supposed to have them, has them.
You're still an irrational troll, troll.

Are you going to get off your Trump fixation any time soon? Or are you still going to harp about Trump and "Trumptards" in a thread ostensibly about Ukraine and Russia?

I guess you totally forgot that Trump went to the Supreme Court, twice, to prevent his tax returns from being publicized.

I guess you forgot that I don't give a fuck about Trump keeping his tax returns secret. Unless he's charged with a tax crime or there is evidence of influence peddling or conflict of interest, it has no bearing on policy... which is what I would have voted on.

Not tax returns.

I see you're still obsessed with Trump.
Yanno "I pay my taxes" must be your one major claim to legitimacy. It must bug the shit out of you that I don't care whether you do or don't. Our whole tax law is a gimme for rich people. Let's do something about THAT.



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Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump doesn't need to make his returns public. The agency that is supposed to have them, has them.
You're still an irrational troll, troll.

Are you going to get off your Trump fixation any time soon? Or are you still going to harp about Trump and "Trumptards" in a thread ostensibly about Ukraine and Russia?

I guess you totally forgot that Trump went to the Supreme Court, twice, to prevent his tax returns from being publicized. That is not the actions of a man who paid his taxes and is running for President.

Finally, you can see those returns at https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns



Yup. And they've been up there for all of you dumb shits to look at for months now.

There is nothing there, fucktard. If there was you know good goddamned well that your Media Masters would be talking about it non-stop every fucking day for the next two years and all the way through Trump's second Presidency.

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Saturday, April 29, 2023 5:59 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yup. And they've been up there for all of you dumb shits to look at for months now.

There is nothing there, fucktard. If there was you know good goddamned well that your Media Masters would be talking about it non-stop every fucking day for the next two years and all the way through Trump's second Presidency.

The only number we know that is true on Trump's tax returns is how much he paid. That number is zero. Trump's true contribution to society is zero, year after year. Well, some years it is $750, but mostly it is zero or Trump even wants a refund from the IRS, in which case Trump was contributing less than zero.

All other numbers on Trump's IRS forms could be completely fake. Each number must be compared to the buildings out in the world and the IRS has NOT done that work of going to those buildings and counting up the actual money. If they had, we'd know about that because FBI agents would have to actually raid buildings and offices to find out what really happened, not what Trump's fake numbers claim happened. The only FBI raid was on Mar-a-Lago, which definitely got news coverage.

It is exactly like comparing Russia's claims with what actually happened. Russia can claim anything it wants about casualties because nothing has been verified as true. Some trustworthy auditors must count the Russian bodies by digging up some graves, but remember that Russia could be hiding bodies just like Trump could be hiding money.

For example, Trump claims a loss of (65,905,501) on page 185 of https://s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs.taxnotes.com/2022/Trump_2020_1040.pdf
There is no documentation of where that number came from. For all we know, it is pure fiction.

A real auditor would say to Trump: "If you cannot prove that number to me, I am throwing your fat ass into jail. Show me your proof, Donald."

Again, the only numbers we know are "true" on Trump's tax returns are the numbers he paid. Trump is either asking the IRS for a multi-million dollar refund, which the IRS definitely won't send that crook. Or Trump claims he should pay either zero or $750 (Trump used that number twice in different years which is extremely ridiculous that everything precisely adds up to to $750 twice in row).

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 29, 2023 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I guess you forgot that I don't give a fuck about Trump keeping his tax returns secret. Unless he's charged with a tax crime or there is evidence of influence peddling or conflict of interest, it has no bearing on policy... which is what I would have voted on.

Not tax returns.

I see you're still obsessed with Trump.
Yanno "I pay my taxes" must be your one major claim to legitimacy. It must bug the shit out of you that I don't care whether you do or don't. Our whole tax law is a gimme for rich people. Let's do something about THAT.

I never forget that Russians and Trump lovers care nothing about telling the truth.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on April 27 codifying conditions for the further large-scale deportation to Russia of residents of occupied areas of Ukraine. Putin signed a decree entitled “On the Peculiarities of the Legal Status of Certain Categories of Foreign Citizens and Stateless Persons in the Russian Federation” that defines those who are living in Russian-occupied territories who have declared their desire to retain their current citizenship and refuse to accept Russian passports as “foreign citizens and stateless persons currently residing in the Russian Federation.”[8] The decree holds that such individuals may continue to reside in occupied territories until July 1, 2024, suggesting that these individuals may be subject to deportation following this date.[9] This decree codifies coercive methods to encourage residents of occupied areas to receive Russian passports and also sets conditions for the deportation of Ukrainians who do not agree to become Russian citizens. Russian authorities are also continuing other efforts to deport Ukrainians, particularly children, to Russia under various schemes.[10] ISW continues to assess that all lines of effort aimed at deporting Ukrainians to Russia may constitute a violation of the Geneva Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, as well as a potential deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign.

Ukrainian officials continue to draw attention to Russia’s illegal deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia. Ukrainian People’s Deputy Maria Mezentseva announced on April 28 that Ukraine has provided the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) a list of 19,000 Ukrainian children forcibly deported by Russia.[55] Mezentseva stated that the ICRC has the authority to visit the children placed in Russian camps, foster families, and other places where Russian authorities are illegally keeping children but that it is unknown when these visits will take place.[56] The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on April 28 that Russian occupation authorities intend to withdraw Ukrainian children from schools in Horlivka, Donetsk Oblast, at the end of the school year and force their parents to travel with them to Russia under the pretext of evacuation.[57]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-28-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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