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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 6:43 AM


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Originally posted by second:
If a Ukraine that believes in the rule of law and human rights grift and corruption can achieve victory against a much larger, much more autocratic democratic society, and if it can do so while preserving its own freedoms oligarchy then similarly open societies and movements transnationalist regimes around the world can hope for success too.


Fixed it for you.

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SECOND: This year the US will spend another $1 trillion on defense. Who is the US defending itself from? From the past records, we know what country was used as the justification for these huge defense budgets. It is Russia. The US has already spent more than $10 trillion in a nuclear arms race with Russia, but since 1945 the US never had the guts to beat the shit out of the Russians commit suicide on a mass scale, so that there would not be an arms race. but decided to beat the shit out of dozens of weaker hapless nations instead. But at long last, there is a country (Ukraine) that is beating the shit out of Russians, stupid enough to be used as a hapless proxy against Russia and is getting beaten to a pulp, but 6ix wants the beating to stop.


What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 8:09 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?

Unlike you predicting Russia will win, I have not predicted that Ukraine will win. But I will make a prediction: if Russia wins, Putin will treat the Ukrainians as magnanimously as Stalin treated the Germans. Two million Germans were killed after Germany surrendered. Russia denies that happened. The Germans said it happened.

Postwar forced resettlement of Germans echoes through the decades
https://theconversation.com/postwar-forced-resettlement-of-germans-ech
oes-through-the-decades-137219


Likewise, the Russians said they didn't kill 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor. The Ukrainians said the Russians did kill the Ukrainians by the millions. This time won't be any different than last time. My prediction is that Ukrainians will die by the millions if the Russians win, but Russians will deny it is happening. That's what Russians do to conquered nations.

HOLODOMOR BASIC FACTS
https://holodomor.ca/resource/holodomor-basic-facts/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 9:01 AM

Ukraine is already the loser here with 2 generations of men dying for NATO.

In the end, they will have died for nothing when they surrender to Russia.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 9:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine is already the loser here with 2 generations of men dying for NATO.

In the end, they will have died for nothing when they surrender to Russia.

You are getting pretty close to Signym's position that Russia shall win. Why not wait until Russia is more assured to win? Otherwise, you'll end up disappointed just as you were when Trump lost despite your wholehearted devotion to the notion he's a winner.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine is already the loser here with 2 generations of men dying for NATO.

In the end, they will have died for nothing when they surrender to Russia.

You are getting pretty close to Signym's position that Russia shall win. Why not wait until Russia is more assured to win? Otherwise, you'll end up disappointed just as you were when Trump lost despite your wholehearted devotion to the notion he's a winner.



Why would I be disappointed?

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 4:18 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Why would I be disappointed?

You weren't disappointed when Trump lost? You won't be disappointed if Putin loses in Ukraine and by inference, Biden wins?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 4:20 PM

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu claimed that the Russian defense industrial base is increasing its production of precision missiles for use against Ukraine.[1]

Shoigu likely seeks to deflect intensifying accusations that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) cannot provide sufficient ammunition to Russian forces.

Russian milbloggers began naming specific Russian MoD officials in their accusations of poor supply provisions to Russian forces.[5] Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin continues to claim that the Russian MoD is deliberately setting Wagner mercenaries up for failure in Bakhmut by refusing to provide their requested number of shells, which his commanders claim is leading to high casualties and slow progress on the battlefield.[6] A Wagner serviceman also claimed that he delivered 39 boxes with complaints from Wagner servicemen about lack of ammunition to the Russian State Duma’s Defense Committee on May 2.[7]

The Kremlin reportedly distributed a new manual instructing Russian state media on how to cover an upcoming potential Ukrainian counteroffensive that, if real, indicates the Kremlin is setting informational conditions to mitigate shocks in the Russian information space from Ukrainian successes. Meduza reported that sources close to the Russian presidential administration stated that Russian losses will be understandable because “the entire West has concentrated huge efforts on the front.”[16] The alleged document suggests the Kremlin is preparing for Ukrainian successes and is planning to mitigate demoralization in the Russian information space.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-2-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 7:05 PM

Kremlin accuses Ukraine of trying to assassinate Putin

In a statement, the Kremlin said: "Last night, the Kyiv regime attempted to carry out a strike on the Kremlin residence of the President of the Russian Federation with unmanned aerial vehicles."

It said it regarded this "as a planned terrorist act and an assassination attempt on the president", and Russia "reserves the right to take retaliatory measures wherever and whenever is deemed necessary".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65471904

Ukrainian comment: Wouldn't that be a terrible injustice if Putin was killed after he has done absolutely nothing wrong to Ukraine? We would deeply mourn this great man's abrupt passing into history.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Wednesday, May 3, 2023 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?






Too funny...comrade signym has been threatening Ukraine would fold like a cheap suit for over a year now.

I told you comrade that Russia was a paper tiger. The first time, many many years ago.

T



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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Why would I be disappointed?

You weren't disappointed when Trump lost? You won't be disappointed if Putin loses in Ukraine and by inference, Biden wins?



The entire country lost and continues to lose when Biden* won*.

No American stands to gain or lose anything if Russia or Ukraine wins, other than the fact that we won't be wasting any more taxpayer dollars on NATO's war. That money ends no matter what the result is.

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