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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Monday, December 12, 2022 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Joe Biden* is about to be investigated. His pre-Presidential* ties to Puppet Zelensky will be exposed.

Tick Tock

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

If drunken ne'er-do-well Hunter Biden goes to jail, it would be great. Republican Congressmen plan on doing to Hunter Biden what they tried doing to Hillary. The 10 year anniversary of Hillary and Benghazi was this year. https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+benghazi

Republican Congressmen sued and investigated and lied their heads off, but Benghazi amounted to nothing more than government employees who should have had a better sense of self-preservation but, either foolishly or optimistically, take your pick, didn't withdraw from Benghazi and got themselves killed while achieving nothing. Despite the fact that 10 investigations were eventually conducted into the Benghazi attacks and the response from U.S. officials — most of which were led by GOP committees — no evidence was found that any top officials in the Obama administration had acted improperly at the time.

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-blast-obama-clinton-over-benghazi
-10th-anniversary-1741887


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, December 12, 2022 10:59 PM

Ben Hodges @general_ben tweeted
Ukr General Staff will continue to pound Russian hq's and lines of communication (logistics) for the next few weeks, thru February, in order to set the conditions for the decisive phase of the campaign, the liberation of Crimea. I expect them to liberate Crimea by August.
5:41 AM · Dec 12, 2022
https://twitter.com/general_ben/status/1602267451093401600

Ben Hodges @general_ben is the former Commanding General USArmyEurope, Senior Advisor for @humanrights1st https://humanrightsfirst.org/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 13, 2022 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Ben Hodges @general_ben tweeted
Ukr General Staff will continue to pound Russian hq's and lines of communication (logistics) for the next few weeks, thru February, in order to set the conditions for the decisive phase of the campaign, the liberation of Crimea. I expect them to liberate Crimea by August.
5:41 AM · Dec 12, 2022
https://twitter.com/general_ben/status/1602267451093401600

Ben Hodges @general_ben is the former Commanding General USArmyEurope, Senior Advisor for @humanrights1st https://humanrightsfirst.org/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Take Crimea by August? Of next year?

Hahahahaha!!!!!! They won't even be able to fix their electrical grid by then! And by August, Kiev's military will only be a memory.

Jeez, these people are delusional.

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Tuesday, December 13, 2022 2:09 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Hahahahaha!!!!!!

The Group of Seven (G7) economic powers on Monday pledged to continue helping Ukraine defend itself against Russia's invasion. G7 leaders were joined by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy via videolink during Monday's meeting.

In a joint statement, G7 leaders slammed Moscow's "irresponsible nuclear rhetoric" and said if Russia ever were to use chemical, biological or nuclear weapons it "would be met with severe consequences."

Zelenskyy, during his video address, called on G7 leaders to send more weapons including tanks, rocket artillery and more long-range missiles.

"Unfortunately, Russia still has the advantage in artillery and missiles. This is a fact. These capabilities of the occupying army are the ones to fuel the Kremlin's arrogance," Zelenskyy said.

Expecting bad news for the remainder of 2022, the Kremlin cancels Putin's end-of-year press conference

The Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin will not hold his annual end-of-year press conference this year.

"There will not be [a press conference] before the New Year," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. 

Peskov gave no reason for the break with tradition at the end of 12 months dominated by Russia's war in Ukraine and sanctions imposed in response by the West.

https://www.dw.com/en/russia-ukraine-updates-g7-say-air-defenses-the-i
mmediate-focus/a-64064770


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 13, 2022 6:43 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Hahahahaha!!!!!!

The Group of Seven (G7) economic powers on Monday pledged to continue helping Ukraine defend itself against Russia's invasion. G7 leaders were joined by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy via videolink during Monday's meeting.

In a joint statement, G7 leaders slammed Moscow's "irresponsible nuclear rhetoric" and said if Russia ever were to use chemical, biological or nuclear weapons it "would be met with severe consequences."

Zelenskyy, during his video address, called on G7 leaders to send more weapons including tanks, rocket artillery and more long-range missiles.

"Unfortunately, Russia still has the advantage in artillery and missiles. This is a fact. These capabilities of the occupying army are the ones to fuel the Kremlin's arrogance," Zelenskyy said.

Expecting bad news for the remainder of 2022, the Kremlin cancels Putin's end-of-year press conference

The Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin will not hold his annual end-of-year press conference this year.

"There will not be [a press conference] before the New Year," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. 

Peskov gave no reason for the break with tradition at the end of 12 months dominated by Russia's war in Ukraine and sanctions imposed in response by the West.

https://www.dw.com/en/russia-ukraine-updates-g7-say-air-defenses-the-i
mmediate-focus/a-64064770


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Yeah, yeah.
Whatever.

Aside from long distance missiles, possibly nuclear tipped, and/or officially sending NATO troops into Ukraine (there are thousands there unofficially in Kiev uniforms), "the west" has already done pretty much everything they can do. Europe is tapped out, militarily and economically.

Bakhmut will fall within a month. And meanwhile things are going "so well" in Ukraine, the EU and USA are trying to organize a war against Serbia, and China and Saudi Arabia just cut a $40 billion deal.

BTW having seen some videos of Putin, I think he does have some sort of medical problem. But I also think that Russia's future does not hinge on Mr Putin bc he and the rst of the upper ranks have been working hard to replace him.


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Tuesday, December 13, 2022 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Aside from long distance missiles, possibly nuclear tipped, and/or officially sending NATO troops into Ukraine (there are thousands there unofficially in Kiev uniforms), "the west" has already done pretty much everything they can do. Europe is tapped out, militarily and economically.

The cheese-eating French surrender monkeys may be tapped out, but not the U.S.

The U.S. has provided only $32 billion in aid to Ukraine since Moscow’s full-scale invasion in February, including almost $20 billion in arms and other security assistance. That is insignificant compared to what the Pentagon squanders each year.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-and-allies-confront-cost-of-aid-assur
ing-ukraine-victory-over-russia-11670733607?mod=djemalertNEWS


How much money does the Pentagon have, per year? In FY 2022, the Department of Defense (DOD) had $1.64 Trillion distributed among its 6 sub-components. Compared to the DOD's spending ($1,640 billion) Ukraine's $32 billion is the epitome of efficiency.
https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/department-of-defense?fy=2022

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 13, 2022 9:09 AM

So, what is Kiev going to do? Throw dollar bills at Russians?

It doesn't matter how much the Pentagon squanders every year. Squandering money is the antithesis of creating an effective military. In reality we have run out of weapons and munitions that would be useful to Kiev, and bc we've de-industrialized we dont have the capacity to churn them out in volume.

We could give Kiev weapons out of our current stock, but we'd have to send operators along with them bc it would take too long for Kiev to train up its soldiers.

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Tuesday, December 13, 2022 6:38 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what is Kiev going to do? Throw dollar bills at Russians?

It doesn't matter how much the Pentagon squanders every year. Squandering money is the antithesis of creating an effective military. In reality we have run out of weapons and munitions that would be useful to Kiev, and bc we've de-industrialized we dont have the capacity to churn them out in volume.

We could give Kiev weapons out of our current stock, but we'd have to send operators along with them bc it would take too long for Kiev to train up its soldiers.

Are you expecting Ukraine to surrender before New Year's Day? The War won't be ending soon, leaving plenty of time to train Ukrainian civilians into soldiers:

https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/job-training/advanced-individu
al-training.html


17 weeks. Ammunition Specialist requires 10 weeks of Basic Training and 7 weeks of Advanced Individual Training.

As an Ammunition Specialist, you’ll be responsible for the highly specialized care and management of ammunition, explosives, and their components. You’ll perform stock control and accounting duties, and you’ll be in charge of receiving, storing, issuing, and inspecting weapon systems to determine if they need repair or need to be destroyed. This means you’ll be in charge of blowing up expired or partially used explosives and other ordnance in controlled settings, a crucial part of keeping our troops safe.

https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/career-match/support-logistics
/transportation-inventory/89b-ammunition-specialist.html


32 weeks. Land Combat Electronic Missile System Repairer requires 10 weeks of Basic Training and 22 weeks of Advanced Individual Training

https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/career-match/mechanics-enginee
ring/test-repair/94a-land-missile-system-repairer.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 13, 2022 6:41 PM

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy pressed Western leaders again on Monday to provide more advanced weapons to help his country in its war with Russia, and he repeated his calls for Russian forces to withdraw from occupied areas of Ukraine, suggesting Christmas as a date to retreat.

During a video conference, Zelenskky told host Germany and other leaders of the Group of Seven industrial powers: “It would be right to begin the withdrawal of Russian troops from the internationally recognized territory of Ukraine this Christmas. If Russia withdraws its troops from Ukraine, then a reliable cessation of hostilities will be ensured.”

He added: “The answer from Moscow will show what they really want there: either a further confrontation with the world or finally an end to aggression.

The G-7 leaders supported Zelenskyy’s appeal, saying in a statement after their meeting that “Russia can end this war immediately by ceasing its attacks against Ukraine and completely and unconditionally withdrawing its forces from the territory of Ukraine.

The Kremlin has rejected all previous appeals to reverse its land grabs in Ukraine. It didn’t immediately respond to this latest one.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-government-90e64b55be2411219
1c5413a3e220a4c


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, December 14, 2022 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what is Kiev going to do? Throw dollar bills at Russians?

It doesn't matter how much the Pentagon squanders every year. Squandering money is the antithesis of creating an effective military. In reality we have run out of weapons and munitions that would be useful to Kiev, and bc we've de-industrialized we dont have the capacity to churn them out in volume.

We could give Kiev weapons out of our current stock, but we'd have to send operators along with them bc it would take too long for Kiev to train up its soldiers.

SECOND: Are you expecting Ukraine to surrender before New Year's Day?

Did I post that???

NO, I DIDN'T.

That's called a stawman argument, and it's a transparent rhetorical ploy to derail the discussion from (your) losing point.


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