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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, December 15, 2022 7:41 PM

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The Biden administration is planning to send Ukraine advanced electronic equipment that converts unguided aerial munitions into “smart bombs” that can target Russian military positions with a high degree of accuracy, according to senior U.S. officials familiar with the matter.



How long do you suppose it will be before we find those in Africa and the Middle East?

One week? Two tops?

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Thursday, December 15, 2022 7:56 PM

Russia warned the U.S. that if it sends Patriot missile systems to Ukraine it will consider the move a provocation that could lead to “unpredictable consequences.”

The Biden administration is finalizing plans to send a Patriot missile system to Ukraine, three defense officials told NBC News earlier this week. The surface-to-air defense system would help Ukraine repel Russian aerial attacks.

The Russian embassy in Washington said in a statement on Telegram Wednesday that sending the Patriot missile system would be considered “provocative.”

In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.

“There is no calm on the front line. There is nothing easy and simple. Every day and every meter is fought for extremely hard,” Zelenskyy said in a nightly address on his Telegram channel.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/15/ukraine-war-live-updates-latest-news-o
n-russia-and-the-war-in-ukraine.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 15, 2022 8:22 PM

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Russia warned the U.S. that if it sends Patriot missile systems to Ukraine it will consider the move a provocation that could lead to “unpredictable consequences.”



Putin isn't worried about that. He knows that those missile systems are going to turn up in Ali Khamenei's hands by the new year.

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Thursday, December 15, 2022 8:23 PM

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In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.



Hmmmmmmmm....

Well that seems to go against everything that Ted's videos are claiming.

So... Who is lying then?

Will Ted even remember the videos he posted now that we're being presented with a new narrative?

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Thursday, December 15, 2022 9:05 PM

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In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.



Hmmmmmmmm....

Well that seems to go against everything that Ted's videos are claiming.

So... Who is lying then?

Will Ted even remember the videos he posted now that we're being presented with a new narrative?

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I get the feeling that you misunderstand how Armies operate. Since Armies move around, Russians have difficulty targeting them. Since towns don't move, Russians see towns as easy targets, firing at those, which doesn't do much more than destroy real estate and kill civilians. Most of the time, the Ukrainian Army stays out of towns to avoid being hit. I suspect you will never understand how differently winners operate than do losers of wars. When this war is all over, Russians will be bragging about how much damage they did to Ukrainian buildings while Ukraine did almost nothing to Russian buildings, but the Ukrainian Army will still have won the war by beating the Russian Army.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:53 PM

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In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.



Hmmmmmmmm....

Well that seems to go against everything that Ted's videos are claiming.

So... Who is lying then?

Will Ted even remember the videos he posted now that we're being presented with a new narrative?

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I get the feeling



Nobody gives a shit about your feelings.

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Friday, December 16, 2022 9:35 AM

Oh, yeah- now SECOND is an expert in warfare too??

SECOND, Russia isn't targeting "cities" ... that's what Kiev does.

Russia is targeting the electric infrastructure. Even then, they aren't targeting the power plants, they're targeting the distribution grid.
why are they doing this? It's a vulnerability in Kiev's military, bc the trains are electric, and bc they're a different gage than the EU, it's not like the EU can supply them with diesel locomotives.

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Friday, December 16, 2022 9:51 AM

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Oh, yeah- now SECOND is an expert in warfare too??



Second is an expert at everything Second has ever Seconded.

Really. Second should be President of the World. We'd be so lucky to have somebody as perfect as Second making all of our decisions for us. There would be no need for any other politicians worldwide. Just Second telling us all what is good for us. Second has never made a single mistake in his life or has ever been wrong about anything. Second has never had even a sip of coffee and will live forever because Second has never ingested anything that wasn't pure as sunlight.

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Friday, December 16, 2022 9:57 AM

I thought this was a very interesting and far-ranging discussion between

An ex-Marine with weapons systems experience, writing from Bangkok. He tends to focus on weapons systems and logistics.

A British- educated Greek with connections to businessmen all over Europe, posting from London

An American-educated Argentinian posting from Karkhiv.

An American-educated Cypriot whose father was a diplomat, currently currently posting from Cyprus



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Friday, December 16, 2022 10:41 AM

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Oh, yeah- now SECOND is an expert in warfare too??



Second is an expert at everything Second has ever Seconded.

Really. Second should be President of the World. We'd be so lucky to have somebody as perfect as Second making all of our decisions for us. There would be no need for any other politicians worldwide. Just Second telling us all what is good for us. Second has never made a single mistake in his life or has ever been wrong about anything. Second has never had even a sip of coffee and will live forever because Second has never ingested anything that wasn't pure as sunlight.

In the Vietnam War, the US killed millions of Vietnamese, destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars of real estate, and the US lost. It was impossible to believe back in Texas, where the people who are now Trumptards or fathers of today's Trumptards could not understand why the US lost. Didn't killing millions of Vietnamese guarantee a win? Maybe atom bombs should have been used on Vietnam, the Texas Trumptards argued. Didn't thousands of US deaths guarantee a win? The future Texas Trumptards were convinced that hippies and peaceniks and Democrats were the cause of the US loss in Vietnam, not the competence of the US military, which destroyed more property and killed more Vietnamese every day.

Russians are just as confused about why Russia is losing in Ukraine as the future Trumptards were confused about why the US lost in Vietnam. Russia has killed vast numbers of Ukrainians. Russia has destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars in real estate. Russia has only lost a few thousand soldiers. How is it possible that Russia has not already won in Ukraine? It must be somebody's fault, but not the Russian military's fault, that Russia has not already won! This is probably why Russians talk about nuking Ukraine the same way future Trumptards talked about nuking Vietnam because the minds of a certain kind of Trumptard or Russian will believe that the more people you kill and the more property you destroy the closer you get to winning a war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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