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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Sunday, December 11, 2022 6:26 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

We had a nice day relaxing together. Tomorrow ... well today, actually... we're supposed to get rain, so I'm goimg to get on the stick and finish cleaning the house. Maybe get a Christmas tree and get one up early for a change. I'm hoping for a nice family Christmas this year. Make warm memories for us.

Here is a warm memory for you. The Russian Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1975 had similar problems with the Kremlin as does the 2022 winner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Sakharov#Attacked_by_Soviet_estab
lishment_from_1972


The Russian co-winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize has said Kremlin authorities told him to turn down the award.

Yan Rachinsky, who heads Memorial, said he was told not to accept the prize because the two other co-laureates - a Ukrainian human rights organisation and jailed Belarusian rights defender - were deemed "inappropriate".

Memorial is one of Russia's oldest civil rights groups, and was shut down by the government last year.

In an exclusive interview with the BBC's HARDtalk programme, Mr Rachinsky said his organisation had been advised to decline the award, but "naturally, we took no notice of this advice".

Despite threats to his safety, Mr Rachinsky said the work of Memorial remained essential.

"In today's Russia, no-one's personal safety can be guaranteed," he said. "Yes, many have been killed. But we know what impunity of the state leads to… We need to get out of this pit somehow."

Memorial has documented historical Soviet repression.

Its first chairman - Arseny Roginsky - was sent to Soviet labour camps for the so-called "anti-communist" study of history.

Announcing the prize winners, the Nobel Committee said that Memorial was founded on the idea that "confronting past crimes is essential in preventing new ones".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63929130

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, December 11, 2022 9:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. It must be painful to be Second.

I had a great day today. How about you Sigs?



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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.


We had a nice day relaxing together. Tomorrow ... well today, actually... we're supposed to get rain, so I'm goimg to get on the stick and finish cleaning the house. Maybe get a Christmas tree and get one up early for a change. I'm hoping for a nice family Christmas this year. Make warm memories for us.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake




That sounds nice. I hope your plans for the day work out.

I'll be putting my new faux fireplace together so I can show it off when my dad drops by next week and then do a little cleaning around my house today. Probably a light day other than that after some long nights helping my friend paint his basement.

I ate so good yesterday. Have you ever had a Gyro Burger? Damn that was good. Then they got Chick fila for dinner. Never had a chicken sandwich from there before. Wow.



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Sunday, December 11, 2022 9:51 PM

Putin won't have the excuse for losing Ukraine that the Emperor of Japan had for losing WWII. Maybe Putin will blame NATO?

Put yourself in the shoes of the emperor. You’ve just led your country through a disastrous war. The economy is shattered. Eighty percent of your cities have been bombed and burned. The Army has been pummeled in a string of defeats. The Navy has been decimated and confined to port. Starvation is looming. The war, in short, has been a catastrophe and, worst of all, you’ve been lying to your people about how bad the situation really is. They will be shocked by the news of the surrender. So which would you rather do? Admit that you failed badly? Issue a statement that says that you miscalculated spectacularly, made repeated mistakes, and did enormous damage to the nation? Or would you rather blame the loss on an amazing scientific breakthrough that no one could have predicted? At a single stroke, blaming the loss of the war on the atomic bomb swept all the mistakes and misjudgments of the war under the rug. The Bomb was the perfect excuse for having lost the war. No need to apportion blame; no court of enquiry need be held. Japan’s leaders were able to claim they had done their best. So, at the most general level the Bomb served to deflect blame from Japan’s leaders.

But attributing Japan’s defeat to the Bomb also served other specific political purposes. First, it helped to preserve the legitimacy of the emperor. If the war was lost not because of mistakes but because of the enemy’s unexpected miracle weapon, then the institution of the emperor might continue to find support within Japan.

Second, it appealed to international sympathy. Japan had waged war aggressively, and with particular brutality toward conquered peoples. Its behavior was likely to be condemned by other nations. Being able to recast Japan as a victimized nation — one that had been unfairly bombed with a cruel and horrifying instrument of war — would help to offset some of the morally repugnant things Japan’s military had done. Drawing attention to the atomic bombings helped to paint Japan in a more sympathetic light and deflect support for harsh punishment.

More at https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-
did
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, December 11, 2022 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. It must be painful to be Second.

I had a great day today. How about you Sigs?



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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.


We had a nice day relaxing together. Tomorrow ... well today, actually... we're supposed to get rain, so I'm goimg to get on the stick and finish cleaning the house. Maybe get a Christmas tree and get one up early for a change. I'm hoping for a nice family Christmas this year. Make warm memories for us.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake




That sounds nice. I hope your plans for the day work out.

I'll be putting my new faux fireplace together so I can show it off when my dad drops by next week and then do a little cleaning around my house today. Probably a light day other than that after some long nights helping my friend paint his basement.

I ate so good yesterday. Have you ever had a Gyro Burger? Damn that was good. Then they got Chick fila for dinner. Never had a chicken sandwich from there before. Wow.



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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.



Oh... Right. I have to do laundry today too.



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Sunday, December 11, 2022 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh... Right. I have to do laundry today too.

Roses are Red
Life has No Meaning
The Voices in 6ix's Head
Are Constantly Screaming

"Trump will be fine."
- 6ix wrote for the thousandth time

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, December 11, 2022 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh... Right. I have to do laundry today too.

Roses are Red
Life has No Meaning
The Voices in 6ix's Head
Are Constantly Screaming

"Trump will be fine."
- 6ix wrote for the thousandth time

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



My life is full of meaning. When I'm not helping friends and family, I'm helping myself.



And for the 1001th time, Trump will be fine.


Have fun with your miserable little Sunday after yet another of your countless wasted weeks doing nothing of importance for yourself or anybody else.

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THG
Monday, December 12, 2022 1:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Putin won't have the excuse for losing Ukraine that the Emperor of Japan had for losing WWII. Maybe Putin will blame NATO?

Put yourself in the shoes of the emperor. You’ve just led your country through a disastrous war. The economy is shattered. Eighty percent of your cities have been bombed and burned. The Army has been pummeled in a string of defeats. The Navy has been decimated and confined to port. Starvation is looming. The war, in short, has been a catastrophe and, worst of all, you’ve been lying to your people about how bad the situation really is. They will be shocked by the news of the surrender. So which would you rather do? Admit that you failed badly? Issue a statement that says that you miscalculated spectacularly, made repeated mistakes, and did enormous damage to the nation? Or would you rather blame the loss on an amazing scientific breakthrough that no one could have predicted? At a single stroke, blaming the loss of the war on the atomic bomb swept all the mistakes and misjudgments of the war under the rug. The Bomb was the perfect excuse for having lost the war. No need to apportion blame; no court of enquiry need be held. Japan’s leaders were able to claim they had done their best. So, at the most general level the Bomb served to deflect blame from Japan’s leaders.

But attributing Japan’s defeat to the Bomb also served other specific political purposes. First, it helped to preserve the legitimacy of the emperor. If the war was lost not because of mistakes but because of the enemy’s unexpected miracle weapon, then the institution of the emperor might continue to find support within Japan.

Second, it appealed to international sympathy. Japan had waged war aggressively, and with particular brutality toward conquered peoples. Its behavior was likely to be condemned by other nations. Being able to recast Japan as a victimized nation — one that had been unfairly bombed with a cruel and horrifying instrument of war — would help to offset some of the morally repugnant things Japan’s military had done. Drawing attention to the atomic bombings helped to paint Japan in a more sympathetic light and deflect support for harsh punishment.

More at https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-
did
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





Maybe Putin will be dead. Maybe he'll fall out of a window or something. He isn't the only one who needs to fall out of a window. Maybe _____ will as well?

T

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Monday, December 12, 2022 2:31 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Maybe Putin will be dead. Maybe he'll fall out of a window or something. He isn't the only one who needs to fall out of a window. Maybe _____ will as well?

T




Who Ted?

Fill in that blank. I dare you.

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Monday, December 12, 2022 3:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My life is full of meaning.

The Joker had found his purpose in life and meaning by the end of the movie. 6ix, you could prove you are not the nihilist you once were, the guy who heaped praise on Joker, the movie about the origin of a mass murderer. How to do that? Joker 2 is in production. Avoid that movie when it is in theaters. Don't invite your father to part 2. Don't discuss it on fff.net. Also, stop with the "Fuck Ukraine," which gives away your degenerate state of mind.

Joker: Folie à Deux
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/joker-2-first-look-todd-phillips-da
y-one-1235456636
/

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THG
Monday, December 12, 2022 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My life is full of meaning.

The Joker had found his purpose in life and meaning by the end of the movie. 6ix, you could prove you are not the nihilist you once were, the guy who heaped praise on Joker, the movie about the origin of a mass murderer. How to do that? Joker 2 is in production. Avoid that movie when it is in theaters. Don't invite your father to part 2. Don't discuss it on fff.net. Also, stop with the "Fuck Ukraine," which gives away your degenerate state of mind.




Well said SECOND, well said.

T

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