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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Friday, December 9, 2022 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:In most parts of the Russian Federation Armed Forces, soldiers and officers do not understand in the name of what, for what, and with what purposes they are fighting. It's a mystery for them what is the condition for victory or just a condition for ending the war. The authorities of the Russian Federation are not able to explain this to them, since setting a clear goal for the SMO [Special Military Operation] means 'limiting room for maneuver' — that is, losing the opportunity to declare the goals of the SMO as achieved at any moment that the Kremlin leaders consider convenient.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
*yawn*
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-operative-who-visited-
the-front-in-ukraine-says-russian-troops-are-in-disarray-due-to-a-crisis-of-strategic-planning/ar-AA152azR
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Russia is losing its army.
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Friday, December 9, 2022 12:58 AM
Quote:The judge who sentenced the Russian thought his sentence was excessive: “He got a hard deal,” said Shira Scheindlin, the retired judge, noting the U.S. sting operatives “put words in his mouth” so he’d say he was aware Americans could die from weapons he sold in order to require a terrorism enhancement that would force a long prison sentence, if not a life term. Scheindlin gave Bout the mandatory minimum 25-year sentence but said she did so only because it was required.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In the most one-sided trade in the history of bartering, Biden* just gave Putin one of his Russian arms dealers in trade for a black, lesbian pothead woman who plays a sport that nobody watches and is subsidized by a sport that men play and people actually watch.
Trump would have at least held out for the US Marine who's spent the last 4 years in the Russian gulag as part of the deal.
But I'm sure he was a straight white male and that Putin has fully respected his straight white male privilege status and will continue to do so until America has a real president that will get him back home.
Fuck Joe Biden*.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Bout has already served ten years in prison, which is arguably a fair sentence for what he actually did. (Bout has actually been in custody for 14.75 years. It's been 11 years since he was convicted, he was held for 2.5 years in Thailand at the US request before extradition and he was in pre-conviction custody for a year.)
The Russians sincerely believe that the US treated Bout inexcusably and had been demanding his release for a year.
https://jabberwocking.com/was-it-right-to-swap-brittney-griner-innocen
t-basketball-player-for-viktor-bout-guilty-arms-dealer/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Friday, December 9, 2022 2:15 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The judge who sentenced the Russian thought his sentence was excessive: “He got a hard deal,” said Shira Scheindlin, the retired judge, noting the U.S. sting operatives “put words in his mouth” so he’d say he was aware Americans could die from weapons he sold in order to require a terrorism enhancement that would force a long prison sentence, if not a life term. Scheindlin gave Bout the mandatory minimum 25-year sentence but said she did so only because it was required.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In the most one-sided trade in the history of bartering, Biden* just gave Putin one of his Russian arms dealers in trade for a black, lesbian pothead woman who plays a sport that nobody watches and is subsidized by a sport that men play and people actually watch.
Trump would have at least held out for the US Marine who's spent the last 4 years in the Russian gulag as part of the deal.
But I'm sure he was a straight white male and that Putin has fully respected his straight white male privilege status and will continue to do so until America has a real president that will get him back home.
Fuck Joe Biden*.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Bout has already served ten years in prison, which is arguably a fair sentence for what he actually did. (Bout has actually been in custody for 14.75 years. It's been 11 years since he was convicted, he was held for 2.5 years in Thailand at the US request before extradition and he was in pre-conviction custody for a year.)
The Russians sincerely believe that the US treated Bout inexcusably and had been demanding his release for a year.
https://jabberwocking.com/was-it-right-to-swap-brittney-griner-innocen
t-basketball-player-for-viktor-bout-guilty-arms-dealer/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
HEY LOOK EVERYBODY. THE LEGACY MEDIA GOT SECOND TO DEFEND RUSSIA AND A RUSSIAN.
You are too stupid for words.
I'm fuckin' done with you today.
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Friday, December 9, 2022 3:20 AM
Yanno, after a couple of days away from this website, SECOND fades to insignificance. And I realized that the reason why SECOND keeps banging in and on about stuff nobody believes anymore (besides being a troll) is bc he's a pathetic man, empty of any emotional center to his life except this moribund website.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Friday, December 9, 2022 3:54 AM
Quote:. . . in the wake of Russian defeats, first in Kyiv, later in the Donbass and beyond, Putin’s justifications have been ever-changing. Initially, Putin claimed it was solely to rescue the Russian-speaking people of the Donbass. Then, it was to reverse a U.S.-orchestrated coup forcing former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych from power in 2014.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, after a couple of days away from this website, SECOND fades to insignificance. And I realized that the reason why SECOND keeps banging in and on about stuff nobody believes anymore (besides being a troll) is bc he's a pathetic man, empty of any emotional center to his life except this moribund website.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Next, lacking a victory on Victory Day, Putin resorted to claiming the war was about fighting Nazis in Ukraine. That excuse imploded when Putin’s forces were revealed not to be self-proclaimed “Nazi-hunters” but reincarnated Nazis committing war crimes and crimes against humanity at will in Bucha, Kharkiv and even in Azov. Then the excuse was that Ukraine lost the right to sovereignty because, ostensibly, Kyiv fought to defend its sovereignty.
Now it is Satanism.
Pivoting to this latest justification closely ties into Putin’s need to maintain the unwavering support of the Russian Orthodox Church. Not only is its leader, Patriarch Kirill I, providing “spiritual cover” for his war in Ukraine, the church itself is arguably the “core” of Putin’s domestic support.
Satanism is also Putin’s means to an end of simultaneously declaring jihad throughout Christendom and among Islamic extremists.
During his speech, Putin kept hammering on the theme of a decadent, immoral West and pitted it as a collective culture undermining the values of the Muslim world. Indeed, he claimed, it is one that is intent on destroying the Muslim world — and its values — as evidenced by U.S. military actions in Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
Putin’s pairing of Russian Christendom and extremist Islam in this new jihad against the West is not without precedent. It is rooted in his earliest interactions with Syria and its president, Bashar al-Assad. The Russian Orthodox Church, “a key unifier” in Russia and “central to his grip on power” has fully embraced Putin as “the savior of the Christian world.” Two holy sites significant to the church and Russian history are located in Syria: Maaloula, one of the remaining few cities that still speaks Aramaic — the language of Jesus — and Palmyra.
Palmyra is noteworthy because Catherine the Great idolized Zenobia, the “3rd-century queen of Palmyra,” and Catherine modeled her 18th-century court in St. Petersburg after the Syrian city. Notably, St. Petersburg is still referred to as “the Palmyra of the North.” Czarist history matters to Putin. He uses it to justify wars and land grabs.
More at https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3709926-vladimir-putins-
jihad-against-the-west/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Friday, December 9, 2022 4:13 AM
Quote:There are other Russians deserving release from prison. Alexei Navalny, for example. On 2 February a Moscow court jailed Navalny for violating the terms of a 2014 suspended sentence for fraud.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
HEY LOOK EVERYBODY. THE LEGACY MEDIA GOT SECOND TO DEFEND RUSSIA AND A RUSSIAN.
You are too stupid for words.
I'm fuckin' done with you today.
The case against him was based on his failure to report regularly to police during 2020. His legal team said that was absurd, as the authorities knew full well he was getting emergency treatment in Berlin for the Novichok nerve agent attack in Siberia. He reminded the court he had been in a coma during part of that time. Navalny argued that between January and August 2020, before the poisoning, he had reported to police twice a month. He dismissed the fraud case as fabricated in order to silence him.
That 2014 fraud conviction itself was condemned in 2016 by the European Court of Human Rights, which found that Navalny's rights had been violated, and it ordered Russia to pay him and Oleg compensation. But later the Russian Supreme Court upheld the conviction.
More about Putin's animosity toward Navalny at https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-16057045
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Friday, December 9, 2022 4:28 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, after a couple of days away from this website, SECOND fades to insignificance. And I realized that the reason why SECOND keeps banging in and on about stuff nobody believes anymore (besides being a troll) is bc he's a pathetic man, empty of any emotional center to his life except this moribund website.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Yup. That about sums Second up.
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Friday, December 9, 2022 5:26 AM
Quote:I knew many people before they started making excuses for Trump, such as 6ix and Signym do ("Trump will be fine.") Every last one of them was struggling with life in America, mostly because their behavior was ineffectual. Highly defective would describe some of them. Trump gave such people new hope that they would not have to behave better to do better. It was a false hope that success eventually springs from the freedom to do whatever you want, regardless of how selfish, stupid, drunk, dishonest, cowardly, crooked, confused, lazy, gluttonous, and directionless you are. Somehow they can't absorbed the idea that behaving badly will end badly. Trump and Putin have gotten away with bad behavior. Why can't Trumptards?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. That about sums Second up.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Friday, December 9, 2022 1:03 PM
OMG. Somebody throw that broken record in the landfill already.
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