Abortion
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Have you now become anti-abortion because the typical Trump voter is? Or have you become anti-abortion because the typical Biden voter is not?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Thank you.
This article is a shining example of the extreme political bias in the media, and it should be treated by any person with half a brain as such.
P.S. You're going to need two justices to go "squishy", not just one.
I've already answered this question in the other thread. Just in case you missed them or you're intentionally pretending they don't exist in that thread, I'll port them here.
TRIGGER WARNING: It might possibly break your brain when you realize that not everybody is black and white in their every thought. Your question to me right now could have a few words changed and reversed on you and I already know what your answer would be.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is SO HARD for me to have an opinion on this issue.
My backstory about it has been detailed here several times, and anybody still here probably knows my feelings on it...
Yet at the same time, in America alone, 63 Million weren't born since Roe v. Wade. Multiply that by how many kids 63 Million kids would have had and we'd already be a country of over 1/2 a Billion people.
You think gas and food prices are high right now?
Think the clogged up ports and the shipping catastrophe that Joe Biden* and team haven't figured out how to fix for a year is bad now?
How large is a 63 Million person Carbon Footprint multiplied by their children?
Not to mention that the kids who weren't born ended up being spared being raised by the monster who ultimately murdered them, probably avoiding an unhappy and screwed up life altogether.
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Bottom Line: This is not an issue that will change the way I vote about anything or anyone.
That being said, I think throwing it out is a pretty foolish thing to do. Even if Roe v. Wade should never have been enshrined for good legal reason, that doesn't matter in the slightest. Think about how stupid the average person you know is and then ask yourself if they can even read one sentence of legalese let alone understand it. Reality has no basis on whatever the outcome of all of this ends up being. This one is 100% left to the whims of the court of public opinion.
The reactionary, emotional, stupid public and their asinine opinion.
Was the wind blowing hard enough against Democrats to overshadow this? I guess we'll find out in November.
One thing you can always count on though is that there is never a good opportunity or situation that Republicans can't totally fuck up.
Glad to see there's still some things that never change.
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Yanno...
The strangeness of all of this makes me think there might be some bigger looming issues at play here.
Why this? Why now?
Why do the one single possible thing that could fuck up Republican's chances right when the Democrats are showing the entire exhausted country how inept and evil they are? Why allow Democrats to back themselves onto the ledge of a cliff so high that they'd never recover from the fall only to hand them a loaded rocket launcher at the last minute?
Are things about to get worse than they already are somehow?
I'm talking something big. Really, really big. Something that the Democrats could never hope to escape out from under while it happens under their watch.
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Quote:You forgot to port your true answer. Here it is: Nobody cares about Russia or Ukraine. Now all they think about is how bad they want to kill babies and how much they love killing babies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've already answered this question in the other thread. Just in case you missed them or you're intentionally pretending they don't exist in that thread, I'll port them here.
Duh. Dur. Uggggg. pffffffft
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11552
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You forgot to port your true answer. Here it is: Nobody cares about Russia or Ukraine. Now all they think about is how bad they want to kill babies and how much they love killing babies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've already answered this question in the other thread. Just in case you missed them or you're intentionally pretending they don't exist in that thread, I'll port them here.
Duh. Dur. Uggggg. pffffffft
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11552
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Yeah. I did forget that one. Thanks.
That illustrates the trigger warning I posted above.
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TRIGGER WARNING: It might possibly break your brain when you realize that not everybody is black and white in their every thought. Your question to me right now could have a few words changed and reversed on you and I already know what your answer would be.
That's not about me. That's about you.
I'm intelligent enough to say both that the issue is too complex for me to give a definitive answer on, and that I don't even feel it's important enough to do so, while YOU are behaving exactly as anyone who read these boards would expect you to and parroting whatever bullshit talking points your Leftist media outfits tell you to think. I also dragged republicans over the coals for what I feel is a pretty stupid gamble to make.
Republicans suck. I've always said that Republicans suck. I'm not a Republican. The only reason I'm so anti-Democrat right now is because Democrats have become sooooooo fucking bad that they make Republicans look okay by comparison. Not an easy feat to be certain.
The most powerful weapon you can use against any Democrat is a simple mirror that you can lift and show them their own faces.
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Overturning Roe v. Wade
Republicans are turning the public conversation to the question of who leaked the document. They are blaming Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, who hasn’t even taken her Supreme Court seat yet — for the leak, although observers point out that the leak seems more likely to have come from a hard-core right-wing antiabortion activist, since it will make it very hard for any of those justices currently in the majority to soften their stance.
The draft decision takes a sweepingly broad position against Roe v. Wade, declaring that the Fourteenth Amendment cannot protect the right to abortion because such a right is not “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition.” This opens the door to similar attacks on constitutional rights previously established by the Supreme Court.
The indignant tone and aggressive reasoning at the Supreme Court makes clear how empowered the conservative majority believes itself to be.
Republican lawmakers are downplaying the reach of the apparent decision, avoiding the question of whether gay rights are next on the chopping block. Bryan Metzger of Business Insider asked “nearly a dozen” Republican senators whether they think the draft decision overturning Roe v. Wade threatens the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision recognizing the right to same-sex marriage, and whether they supported overturning the Obergefell decision. Metzger wrote: “None gave a clear yes or no answer, and several outright declined to comment.”
Right-wing commentators today called for the court to end recognition of the right to gay marriage.
Texas governor Greg Abbott said that Texas might challenge the 1982 Plyler v. Doe decision. “I think we will resurrect that case and challenge this issue again,” Abbott told a talk show host, “the times are different than when Plyler versus Doe was issued many decades ago.” The real difference is 6 Republicans on the Supreme Court.
The draft decision has been a clarifying moment for the country. This is not a culture war, as if it were a battle between two sides over hemlines or movie ratings. The right seeks to break through all restraints on government power in an effort to establish a society that aligns with a view of America as a White, Christian country.
The MAGA crowd is the most extreme political organization that’s existed in American history. This moment echos the days after the 1857 Dred Scott v Sandford decision by the Supreme Court took away voters’ ability to stop the spread of slavery. Like the draft decision we have seen this week, that decision was clearly political and drew on appallingly bad history to reach a conclusion that gave extraordinary power to the country’s slave-owners. Horace Greeley, the prominent editor of the New York Daily Tribune, wrote that the Dred Scott decision was “entitled to just so much moral weight as would be the judgment of a majority of those congregated in any Washington bar-room.”
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/may-4-2022?s=r
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Keep pretending that it has anything to do with white Christians at your own peril.
I want to see Democrats rail HARD against this and watch just how much the blacks and Mexicans aren't down with what rich white Democrats want in the 2020s.
This is class warfare at this point, and the rest of us don't give a shit about your first world problems, Karen.
Get fucked. And while you're getting fucked, if you don't want to have kids then they make pills for that.
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Quote:I have been hearing the same since the 1960's from people who complain about the Republicans, but find the Democrats to be worse. Then the complainers vote Republican.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not about me. That's about you.
I'm intelligent enough to say both that the issue is too complex for me to give a definitive answer on, and that I don't even feel it's important enough to do so, while YOU are behaving exactly as anyone who read these boards would expect you to and parroting whatever bullshit talking points your Leftist media outfits tell you to think. I also dragged republicans over the coals for what I feel is a pretty stupid gamble to make.
Republicans suck. I've always said that Republicans suck. I'm not a Republican. The only reason I'm so anti-Democrat right now is because Democrats have become sooooooo fucking bad that they make Republicans look okay by comparison. Not an easy feat to be certain.
The most powerful weapon you can use against any Democrat is a simple mirror that you can lift and show them their own faces.
I have followed the life stories of these complainers and their kids -- Republicans are bad but Democrats are worse so I vote for the Republicans -- and their lives do not run straight and smooth, kind of like yours, 6ix. Pick a side, 6ix, and support it. I have no problems with either Democrats or with my life because I picked a side and stick with it. I know where the Democrats are going and I, personally, know where I am going and have goals that never change and are not foggy or unfocused. I don't do the dishonest confused nonsense that most semi-Republican-but-not-really Texans do: I don't cheat on my wife, don't cheat on my taxes, I don't lie, I show up for work and do my job. Trump couldn't truthfully say that (although he would falsely claim he has those fine qualities). All the Trump voters I know (excluding the rich ones) are just as flaky as Trump is, make the same false claims about themselves, insisting they are solid, trustworthy, hardworking citizens. They are NOT. If they believe what they say about themselves, they have to be self-deluded to not make the unbreakable connection between being a fake who doesn't acknowledge he is fake and having a troubled life.
Trump voters are Jokers.
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lol
Meanwhile... In reality.
Even CNN doubts that Roe v Wade is going to help Democrats in November.
https://archive.ph/7oA5l
But please. Do go ahead and talk about this one for months like you spent 2 months wasting time talking about Russia and Ukraine and two years before that about Covid.
Or you could, yanno, fix your fucking party before it's too late for them.
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Quote:The people I know who defend Trump are on the bottom of the economic ladder for obvious reasons. Go fix yourselves so that someday you can get off the bottom because voting for Trump a third time will not fix what is wrong with you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Or you could, yanno, fix your fucking party before it's too late for them.
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The Supreme Court abortion opinion has enormous implications for the future of American law.
In a matter of months, nearly half of the United States will ban something that is seen by millions of Americans — and that has been protected for over 40 years by the US Constitution — as a crucial human right. Those states will also seek to extend the bans beyond their borders. Texas is already doing this, including an extradition provision in a recent restriction on medication abortion that would allow the state to prosecute residents elsewhere who send the pills into Texas.
Abortion opponents in Texas also hope to find ways to restrict abortions that Texans receive out of state. “All options are on the table,” John Seago, legislative director of Texas Right to Life, said in an April interview. “Our legislature is very motivated, and they’ll continue to be motivated even post-Roe.”
The larger legal implications of such efforts are immense. No one knows exactly what will happen when a state like Texas tries to prosecute abortion providers in a state like California, or what the courts will do if and when such prosecutions are challenged. Such a situation, however, eerily echoes divides between free and slave states prior to the Civil War, and between Southern and Northern states under Jim Crow.
The parallels become even more pronounced when you recognize that the populations most affected by the fall of Roe, especially Black Americans, were also those who had their rights stripped from them under slavery and Jim Crow, Goodwin pointed out. And some of the same states that enacted Jim Crow legislation are those seeking to ban abortion today. Those states also “still happen to have legislatures that are predominantly white, and overwhelmingly male,” Goodwin said. “They haven’t significantly changed.”
Interstate conflict over slavery, obviously, eventually gave rise to the Civil War. Losing the war, states enshrined racial discrimination in law and practice under Jim Crow. It took a mass movement led by Black Americans — in which many were killed — to wrest back victories like Brown v. Board of Education and the Voting Rights Act. Even after Brown, President Dwight Eisenhower had to call in the National Guard so that nine Black students could go to school in Arkansas.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2022/5/5/23057317/abortion-supreme-court
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The people I know who defend Trump are on the bottom of the economic ladder for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Or you could, yanno, fix your fucking party before it's too late for them.
Both a lie and a fallacy of an argument you're constantly guilty of using every day.
It won't help you or your party.
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