Abortion
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In order to overturn Roe v Wade, Justice Alito felt like the only way to make it acceptable was to soften the blow by clarifying that he didn't support a steady trawl through Supreme Court precedent, overturning every decision along the way that might somehow be related to Roe. In practice there's no telling if he'll stick to his word.
Justice Alito's list of rights (which were previously used as justifications for the Roe v Wade right to abortion decision) he promises NOT to terminate, but he could if he felt the need:
the right to marry a person of a different race;
the right to marry while in prison;
the right to obtain contraceptives;
the right to reside with relatives;
the right to make decisions about the education of one's children;
the right not to be sterilized without consent;
and the right in certain circumstances not to undergo involuntary surgery, forced administration of drugs, or other substantially similar procedures.
Justice Samuel Alito
Full text: leaked Roe v Wade draft ruling
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-leaked-roe-v-wade-draft-
ruling
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I'd advise everyone not to speculate on this issue at all until there is some substance.
I suspect that a lot of people are going to come out of the other side of this looking like assholes.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yeah, 'cause I've seen those abortion-hawkers, shamelessly waving their signs at passing motorists. "GET YOUR ABORTION HERE!"
Not.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
I see you lied even back then signym. What was happening and who were carrying the signs has always been anti-abortion activists, comrade. Never have I seen it the other way around unless the right to life side were trying to shut a clinic down.
In 2017 and 2018, Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) defended her support for Supreme Court Justices Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh, in part, by pointing to their respect for precedent.
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Quote:You are the one that predicted the Republican Justices would not overturn Roe v Wade. This written decision says the Justices would. Now that the decision is out in the open, the big shots in the Republican Party can call the different Republican justices before the decision is official and tell the justices what would be best for the GOP in the November election. Making and receiving those phone calls is completely unethical, and if they were caught would get the justices kicked off the Supreme Court by impeachment, as if Congress will ever know what really happened in secret. The justices aren't going to admit that they changed their minds because they were told to wait until after the election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd advise everyone not to speculate on this issue at all until there is some substance.
I suspect that a lot of people are going to come out of the other side of this looking like assholes.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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SignyM:
Yeah, 'cause I've seen those abortion-hawkers, shamelessly waving their signs at passing motorists. "GET YOUR ABORTION HERE!"
Not.
THUGR: I see you lied even back then signym. What was happening and who were carrying the signs has always been anti-abortion activists, comrade. Never have I seen it the other way around unless the right to life side were trying to shut a clinic down.
Holy shit! You are extraordinarily stupid, THUGR!
Didn't the word "NOT" in my post clue you in to the SARCASM???
Or is the whole concept of sarcasm lost on you?
I'm surprised you can manage to find your way to the inet!!!
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are the one that predicted the Republican Justices would not overturn Roe v Wade. This written decision says the Justices would. Now that the decision is out in the open, the big shots in the Republican Party can call the different Republican justices before the decision is official and tell the justices what would be best for the GOP in the November election. Making and receiving those phone calls is completely unethical, and if they were caught would get the justices kicked off the Supreme Court by impeachment, as if Congress will ever know what really happened in secret. The justices aren't going to admit that they changed their minds because they were told to wait until after the election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd advise everyone not to speculate on this issue at all until there is some substance.
I suspect that a lot of people are going to come out of the other side of this looking like assholes.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Republicans Are Furious About That Supreme Court Leak
The court has lost so much institutional legitimacy that its rulings are just another form of political combat. It would be terrible for the conservative agenda long term if the idea were to catch on with voters that Republican justices are naked political partisans. No wonder Republicans are mad about it.
They’ve been pursuing a deeply unpopular legal victory for the last 50 years. When victory is in their grasp, somebody tried to take it away.
The GOP’s biggest names have treated their impending triumph mostly as an afterthought, while furiously highlighting the fact that someone leaked the decision early.
The response among conservative pundits has been outright unhinged (not that there’s anything unusual about that).
Some, like Daily Wire editor Ben Shapiro, have suggested liberals are trying to incite murder. “There is little question that this leak is designed to create threat to the life and limb of any justice who signs onto the majority opinion,” he tweeted.
(Such a claim might be reasonable if the pro-choice movement had any significant history whatsoever of political violence; but unlike the anti-abortion movement, it does not.)
Others, such as commentator Matt Walsh, have called the leak an “insurrection,” and have tried to claim it is a graver attack on American democracy than the Jan. 6 Capitol riot—which was, as you may recall, an actual violent putsch in which a mob tried to upend the results of a presidential election.
Republicans are trying to distract from the substance of the court’s decision by talking about the leak instead, because overturning Roe is deeply unpopular.
Republicans are genuinely concerned that this could ruin their impending victory. Fox News Host Laura Ingraham told the truth when she says she’s mad about “a naked attempt to try and change the outcome before the final decision is issued.”
The GOP is haunted by the possibility that one of the court’s conservatives could go squishy and change their mind at the last minute, much the way Chief Justice John Roberts did when he decided to uphold the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate after initially voting to strike it down.
Republicans are getting worked up defending the Supreme court’s honor, and treating any breach of its internal procedures as a violation of “sacred traditions,” as Tennessee Sen. March Blackburn put it. After all, they control the institution!
They have a durable, ideologically driven majority, meaning the party now has a vested interest in defending the court’s institutional legitimacy while also pretending as if its decisions aren’t driven by politics. The worst thing that could happen to the GOP would be for the public’s trust in the court to collapse, just as it achieves its crowning but politically unpopular legal victory.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/rational-reasons-republica
ns-outrage-supreme-court-leak-roe.html
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Thank you.
This article is a shining example of the extreme political bias in the media, and it should be treated by any person with half a brain as such.
P.S. You're going to need two justices to go "squishy", not just one.
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Quote:Have you now become anti-abortion because the typical Trump voter is? Or have you become anti-abortion because the typical Biden voter is not?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Thank you.
This article is a shining example of the extreme political bias in the media, and it should be treated by any person with half a brain as such.
P.S. You're going to need two justices to go "squishy", not just one.
Justice Alito has given speeches where he declares himself a Roman Catholic opposed to abortion. This has been talked about many times, but Justices are to make decisions based only on the law and are NEVER to make decisions based on their religion or political party. Some justices sneak religion and politics into their decisions because once they are appointed they can do as they please. The justices then try to put clothing on their naked religious beliefs. (The worst justices also like to say it not themselves who has a religious/political bias; it's the Democrats!)
I can see what Alito is doing. He is not honest enough to cut down on the words and just make his opinion one sentence: "As a Roman Catholic and a Republican, I rule that abortion is illegal in all 50 states, Puerto Rico, District of Columbia, and all territories." His 99 pages of words are camouflage because he didn't write that the decision is only because of his religion and political party.
Alito did bow down a little bit to the law by not declaring abortion illegal everywhere. Alito is leaving the decision to every legislature. That was nice, but he should have just declared abortion unconstitutional because it offends his God and his political party. That would have been the whole truth. But that would also make it far too obvious what Alito is doing in his decision.
In his speeches, Justice Alito is honest. He is not so honest in his written decisions:
Supreme Court Associate Justice Samuel Alito gave a speech on November 12, 2020 to The Federalist Society. Alito took aim at abortion rights, same-sex marriage, and gun control. He also called out COVID-19 restrictions for imposing “previously unimaginable restrictions on individual liberty.” Read the full transcript here.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/supreme-court-justice-samuel-alit
o-speech-transcript-to-federalist-society
Justice Alito speech on polarizing issues prompts calls to reform Supreme Court
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justice-alito-speech-polarizing-issues
-prompts-calls-reform/story?id=74194553
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As afterthought, it is also dishonest for a Supreme Court Justice to decide based on being bribed. We will never know if a Supreme Court Justice was bribed (because lawyers are generally smart enough not to admit to a crime, even in their posthumous autobiographies) but there is a decision that makes me concerned that the Supreme Court does not understand that bribery is as wrong as making decisions based on a justice's religion and political party:
The Supreme Court’s Bribery-Blessing McDonnell Decision
https://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/the-supreme-courts-bribery
-blessing-mcdonnell-decision
McDONNELL v. UNITED STATES
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-474_ljgm.PDF
McDonnell v. United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_v._United_States
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