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Punishing Russia With Sanctions

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Thursday, April 28, 2022 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Russian Fossil Fuel Revenues Double Despite
Because of
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Western Sanctions

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-fossil-fuel-revenues-do
uble-despite-western-sanctions


Meanwhile, the ruble, which took a steep dive when the Russian Central Bank was attacked by the west, is now the strongest it's been in 20 years.
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/RUBUSD/

Just imagine buying rubles a month ago. What an opportunity!

Winston Churchill went to total war and the resentful voters, who couldn't vote Hitler out, responded by kicking Churchill out at the first opportunity. The British voters and companies would have been happy to sell fuel to Hitler because they are about that stupid. Ever since, politicians have been well aware that if war gets too uncomfortable for the average voter, it is the politicians who will be punished. Voters don't think clearly ahead (but they will have a vague uneasiness) to what will happen to them if Hitler or Putin win. Bombs have to be falling on the voters before they really understand what could happen to voters if Hitler or Putin win. Once Hitler couldn't bomb Britain, the British voters started seeing Churchill, not Hitler, as the real enemy they had to do something about.

Until Putin bombs Britain, the USA, and Germany, a majority of voters will only see how much a problem their own government is, and not see Putin as a problem except to Ukrainians. As 6ix likes to say, over and over, nobody cares about Ukraine (until Putin bombs 6ix).

When a winner becomes a loser: Winston Churchill was kicked out of office in the British election of 1945
https://theconversation.com/when-a-winner-becomes-a-loser-winston-chur
chill-was-kicked-out-of-office-in-the-british-election-of-1945-129746


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, April 28, 2022 10:57 PM

So, Putin = Hitler?


A compilation of your biggest hits just from this thread alone would be a hoot!

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Thursday, April 28, 2022 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
So, Putin = Hitler?


A compilation of your biggest hits just from this thread alone would be a hoot!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


There is the part about Putin destroying cities, raping women and generalized war crimes, approximately what Hitler did. But Signym and Putin and Hitler have said none of those things happened. Who to believe? Belief is so difficult a question when you disbelieve MSM.

Completely unsurprising that Putin calls West an 'Empire of Lies' after sanctions imposed. Hint: It is Putin who is lying.
https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-calls-west-an-empire-lies-after-sa
nctions-imposed-2022-02-28
/

(History says Hitler was lying to his voters. Surprise! Surprise! The German voters didn't believe Hitler was lying until after he was dead, which was far too late to make a difference.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Friday, April 29, 2022 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

So, Putin = Hitler?






Yes yes, you've got it.

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Friday, April 29, 2022 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SignyM:

So, Putin = Hitler?






Yes yes, you've got it.








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Friday, April 29, 2022 1:00 AM

Biden asks Congress for additional $33 billion in Ukraine aid

U.S. lawmakers have indicated they’re ready to approve additional money, as there is bipartisan backing for Ukraine’s fight against Russia.

New money would be on top of the $13.6 billion U.S. lawmakers authorized last month.

Aid to Ukraine includes
$20.4 billion in military and other security assistance,
$8.5 billion in economic assistance and
$3 billion in humanitarian assistance and food-security funding.

Biden on Thursday weighed in on recent Russian rhetoric on the use of nuclear weapons.

“No one should be making idle comments about the use of nuclear weapons. It’s irresponsible.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220428184953/https://www.marketwatch.com
/story/biden-asks-congress-for-additional-33-billion-in-ukraine-aid-11651156208


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, April 29, 2022 3:32 AM

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Biden asks Congress for additional $33 billion in Ukraine aid

U.S. lawmakers have indicated they’re ready to approve additional money, as there is bipartisan backing for Ukraine’s fight against Russia.

New money would be on top of the $13.6 billion U.S. lawmakers authorized last month.

Aid to Ukraine includes
$20.4 billion in military and other security assistance,
$8.5 billion in economic assistance and
$3 billion in humanitarian assistance and food-security funding.

Biden on Thursday weighed in on recent Russian rhetoric on the use of nuclear weapons.

“No one should be making idle comments about the use of nuclear weapons. It’s irresponsible.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220428184953/https://www.marketwatch.com
/story/biden-asks-congress-for-additional-33-billion-in-ukraine-aid-11651156208


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Just add that to the ever-evolving list of reasons I will never earn enough money to pay Federal taxes again in my life.



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Friday, April 29, 2022 6:52 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Just add that to the ever-evolving list of reasons I will never earn enough money to pay Federal taxes again in my life.

Why not take shallow breathes and only one small, low-calorie meal per day because you wish to conserve the Earth's precious resources? You might want to also stop taking showers more than once per week because bathing wastes energy to heat the water. Think of all the money you will save by cutting back on food, fuel and water. You will be a virtuous example to the World. Maybe there could be a TV show about you called Shameless Poor White Trash.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, April 29, 2022 6:56 AM

When Russia invaded Ukraine, the idea that it might lose seemed far-fetched. Vladimir Putin appeared to have a powerful, modernized army, supported by a defense budget a dozen times larger than Ukraine’s. You didn’t have to buy into Ted Cruz-style fantasies about the prowess of a military that wasn’t “woke” and “emasculated” to expect a quick Russian battlefield victory.

And even after Ukraine’s miraculous defeat of Russia’s initial attack, one had to wonder about the longer-term prospects. Before the war, Russia’s economy was about eight times bigger than Ukraine’s; despite the toll that sanctions are taking on Russian production, the destruction in Ukraine wrought by the invasion probably means that the gap is even bigger now. So you might have expected Russia to eventually win a battle of attrition through sheer weight of resources.

But that isn’t what seems to be happening. Nobody can be sure about the extent to which Putin himself understands how the war is going; are his terrified officials willing to tell him the truth? But the way Russia is lashing out, with dire but vague threats against the West and self-destructive tantrums like Wednesday’s cutoff of natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria, suggests that at least somebody in Moscow is worried that time is not on Russia’s side. And U.S. officials are beginning to talk optimistically, not just about holding Russia off, but about outright Ukrainian victory.

How can this be possible? The answer is that America, while not directly engaged in combat, is once again doing what it did in the year before Pearl Harbor: We, with help from our allies, are serving as the “arsenal of democracy,” giving the defenders of freedom the material means to keep fighting.

For those who aren’t familiar with this history: Britain in 1940, like Ukraine in 2022, had unexpected success against a seemingly unstoppable enemy, as the Royal Air Force defeated the Luftwaffe’s attempt to achieve air superiority, a necessary precondition for invasion. Nonetheless, by late 1940 the British were in dire straits: Their war effort required huge imports, including both military hardware and essentials like food and oil, and they were running out of money.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt responded with the Lend-Lease Act, which made it possible to transfer large quantities of arms and food to the beleaguered British. This aid wasn’t enough to turn the tide, but it gave Winston Churchill the resources he needed to hang on, which eventually set the stage for Allied victory.

Now Lend-Lease has been revived, and large-scale military aid is flowing to Ukraine, not just from the United States but also from many of our allies.

Thanks to this aid, the arithmetic of attrition is actually working strongly against Putin. Russia’s economy may be much bigger than Ukraine’s, but it’s small compared with the American economy, let alone the combined economies of the Western allies. And with its limited economic base, Russia doesn’t appear to have the capacity to replace its battlefield losses; Western experts believe, for example, that the fighting in Ukraine so far has cost Russia two years’ worth of tank production.

Ukraine’s army, by contrast, is getting better equipped, with ever more heavy weapons, by the day.
Assuming Congress agrees to President Biden’s request for an additional $33 billion in aid — a sum we can easily afford — cumulative Western support for Ukraine will soon come close to Russia’s annual military spending.

In other words, as I said, time appears to be on Ukraine’s side. Unless the Russians can pull off the kind of dramatic battlefield success that has eluded them so far — such as a blitzkrieg-style assault that encircles a large part of Ukraine’s forces — and do it very soon, the balance of power seems set to keep shifting in Ukraine’s favor.

And let’s be clear about two things.

First, if Ukraine really does win, it will be a triumph for the forces of freedom everywhere. Would-be aggressors and war criminals will be given pause. Western enemies of democracy,

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Friday, April 29, 2022 7:36 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Just add that to the ever-evolving list of reasons I will never earn enough money to pay Federal taxes again in my life.



Why not take shallow breathes and only one small, low-calorie meal per day because you wish to conserve the Earth's precious resources? You might want to also stop taking showers more than once per week because bathing wastes energy to heat the water.



Why the fuck would I do any of that? You must be mistaking me for somebody who gives a shit about the environment. My carbon footprint is small because I don't have a bunch of fuck trophies and I live a minimalist lifestyle. It has nothing to do with hugging trees.

My point was, I'm not making enough money to pay Federal taxes ever again because I in no way approve how they spend ANY of it. And I certainly don't remember anybody ever asking me if we should keep sending billions to Ukraine. The answer is NO and my Senator will get a vote against him in November because he's all-fucking-in on Ukraine he can go fuck himself.

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Think of all the money you will save by cutting back on food, fuel and water.


I live off about $125 per week right now. I don't think there's much more that could be cut out of the budget.



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You will be a virtuous example to the World.


And what ever would give you the idea that I'm the virtue-signalling type?

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Maybe there could be a TV show about you called Shameless Poor White Trash.


Sure. Try to shame the guy who figured out long before he needed to how to live FAR below his means. Yanno. The guy who answers to no one and hasn't had a rent or mortgage payment since 2010, or a car payment since 2001. lol. Good luck!

That's the world we live in now. Can't shame fat people for being fat fucks or shame stupid people for piling on so much debt that they need to work thankless jobs to make somebody else rich for the rest of their lives. Boy! That $6,500 per month of obligatory bills and the bullshit bling you bought with it is SURE impressive. I'm especially SUPER envious of the 50% of your net income that goes to paying interest on shit you like to pretend that you own too. Wow.

Maybe they SHOULD make a show about me. I could teach all of those rich virtue-signalling white dildos how to live below their means and they'd just naturally reduce their carbon footprint down to next-to-nothing and stop fucking up nature if they in a million years could ever actually give up all of those things that you and I know that they'd never give up.

Meanwhile...

Have fun at work tomorrow, bitch.



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