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What is Putin's end game?

POSTED BY: CAPTAINCRUNCH
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Monday, March 21, 2022 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:

From the poster who whines daily about the lack of "real conversation." I think you must not have gotten enough attention as a child. That's not a dis. You couldn't help that. But this incessant lying... damn. It's like you use it as a defense, to put people off. Ironically, it only invites more conflict. A self created vicious circle. I know people like that in RL. They can't keep a job and after they lose each one they always blame the company or their old boss. Always. Life's ups and downs - always someone else's fault. They never see how it's them. And yet the same conflicts follow them through out their entire life. I mean, if your past the age of 35 and still have no idea... You could live to be 500 and you'd still being lying about Russia. And for why? Fckske - I just noticed you've been posting here for 20 years! And you're still at it! So desperate to defend Russia. Maybe in another 20 years you'll find the courage to tell us why?

What the Russian Invasion Teaches Us About the Right
https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/the-third-rail/6234aa276c908600205
16e75/republican-conspiracy-russia-ukraine
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Signym and 6ix are contrarians. Whatever position the MSM takes, contrarians take the opposite position. The whole essay is about contrarianism.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, March 21, 2022 9:09 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quit spreading your fear porn, loser.

Most people don’t remember why Trump was impeached the first time. When asked, just a quarter of respondents said “Ukraine,” and only 3% mentioned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy by name.



Yeah. You're talking to one of the 3%.

In fact you're talking to the 3% of the 3% that knew because they remembered and didn't need the Legacy Media to remind them.


In any case, this is yet another reply you've made that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Monday, March 21, 2022 9:54 PM

P.S. When Trump was President, little-boy, U.S. plant, wannabe president* Zelensky wore suits.


In Biden*world, it appears that Zelensky's competing with Logan and Jake Paul for World's Biggest Streaming Douchebag.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Monday, March 21, 2022 9:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

In any case, this is yet another reply you've made that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

6ix, for mentally ill dim-bulbs like yourself and Trumptards I know in Texas, nothing is connected, nothing is understood, their problems last a lifetime, getting worse as the Trumptard gets older. Meanwhile, other people, Mitt Romney for example, see the obvious and strong connections between a war in Ukraine, Putin and Trump: Mitt Romney's remarks on impeachment vote

The grave question the Constitution tasks senators to answer is whether the President committed an act so extreme and egregious that it rises to the level of a “high crime and misdemeanor.”

Yes, he did.

The President asked a foreign government ( Ukraine's President Zelenskyy ) to investigate his political rival.

The President withheld vital military funds from that government to press it to do so.

The President delayed funds for an American ally at war with Russian invaders (Putin).

The President’s purpose was personal and political.

Accordingly, the President is guilty of an appalling abuse of the public trust.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/mitt-romney-impeachment-vote-
speech-transcript-110849


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, March 21, 2022 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Meanwhile, other people, Mitt Romney for example, see the obvious and strong connections between a war in Ukraine, Putin and Trump: Mitt Romney's remarks on impeachment vote



Any time you make an argument and the absolute worst people from the Right side of the aisle echo it, you look like a bigger hypocrite and asshole than you did the day before.

Tell me again about how John Bolton and John McCain were great men.

Unfortunately, I didn't archive links of you and Ted blowing both of them too because archiving and cataloging every dumb-shit hypocritical thing that you've said over the years would be a full time job, so I just stuck mainly with the violent and pathological.

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Monday, March 21, 2022 10:34 PM

A sobering note from Finland about America's role in causing Putin to invade Ukraine

Published tonight by Josh Marshall for Talking Points Memo, an accusation and a plea.

Translated into rough English, from a Finnish TPM member who believes that the U.S. has yet to come to terms with the role we’ve played in providing the backdrop for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. His thesis is that Russia has viewed the U.S. as a “back door” towards weakening Europe and NATO in its reaction to the invasion.

I understand you would like to see your heroic country as the navel of the world and as the main focus of any operation, but I am sorry to inform that, in this case, you are only cheap tools. You had to be weakened (and Britain manipulated to Brexit etc) in order to facilitate invasions to Ukraine, Belarussia and a list of other neighboring pieces of land in Putin’s future Menu.

So, as a KGB officer would plan, they came exactly from the opposite direction than where they were expected. They professionally built an operation web among the rural redneck cowboys, evangelical Christians, the NRA, the most republican of all republicans, your law enforcement, some military people, big business etc etc. They popped up to the surface from within the “core Americans”, but their long dive before that was planned and had started from the Kremlin’s operation board.

The contention is that the insurrection of Jan. 6 was a seminal moment for Putin’s security services.

Had Trump succeeded to keep in power, the march of Putin to various targets in the Eastern Europe would have been more like an easy summer parade. NATO would be partially paralyzed by his loyal friends in the White House (who likely would have got their personal share of the profits).

Can’t really argue with that.

The TPM member suggests that Russia is still watching the U.S. internal response very carefully, noting that no one in the Trump administration has yet been held accountable for Jan. 6. This evidently makes quite the impression on the rest of the world, including those who are tasked with promoting Russia’s territorial ambitions.

The TPM member continues:

So, if you really want to do something for the Ukraine, for the Europe and to any other decent country or person, please also Do. Your. Own. Homework! Show to both your home audience and to the rest of the world that also the western flank of Putin’s army, the one located in your country, is kept accountable! No special treatment, just f**king enforce your old existing laws to ultra-rich/influential white dudes, as well! You are just tools, but you are very important tools for Putin also in the European front. Don’t let him use you.

Department of Justice? What say you???

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/19/2086972/-Damn-A-sobering-no
te-from-Finland-about-America-s-role-in-all-of-this


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, March 21, 2022 10:59 PM

lol

Fuck DailyKos.



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Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Fuck DailyKos.

The Putin's end game:

At Russia’s military cathedral, Orthodox Christians keep faith in Putin

"I know that the Bible tells us not to kill, but Orthodoxy has always allowed Russia to defend itself against its enemies. This has been true throughout history."

Her comments were echoed by Anatoly, a 66-year-old former Soviet soldier.

“The enemy is at our gate. This isn't a case when we can turn the other cheek,” he said. “We have put up with eight years of outrages from Ukraine, including all their gay parades. No country would tolerate this on its borders!”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/at-russias-military-cathedral-ortho
dox-christians-keep-faith-in-putin-jk7b027mp


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, you're such a bullshit artist, SECOND. If civilians get killed it doesn't mean that civilians are DELIBERATELY targeted. Surely, as a person who used to shoot at people from a helicopter, you should know the difference!

This is, after all, war and people do get killed.






Correct Polish Russian Collaborator Signym. But, when people are being targeted, they are comrade, being targeted. And in the Ukraine Putin's army are following his instructions to kill civilians.

Now I know the Russian army can't fight but where the bombs are landing is evidence enough it is deliberate.

T


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Tuesday, March 22, 2022 1:25 AM

Look it all those bullshit words spewing out!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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