Some Covid-19 thoughts
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More specifically, any further innovation only benefits the top 1%.
They derive plenty from further innovation. A short list, just off the top of my head...
1. Easy access to cutting edge bio-weapons.
2. A.I. and automation that will further replace the need for human labor.
3. A.I. and machine learning that will better destroy privacy and turn every corner of the planet into a highly censored surveillance state.
4. Better weapons with which to kill people more efficiently with.
5. Better understanding about the human body and how to better exploit it to never cure anything but only offer expensive treatments for life that you can't live without.
None of this benefits you or I in the slightest.
We're way beyond the days of living without electricity and having a life expectancy of 40 years. There once was a day where there was plenty of room for innovation benefiting every person.
Those days are LONG gone.
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SIX:
You forgot: AI so we will no longer need humans to think.
Maybe we should burn programmers at the stake.
*****
Anyway, KIKI is right. Now YOU'RE the one talking about killing people categorically. You sound just like WISHY, except you have a different target.
Killing not for anything that anyone has DONE, but for what they THINK. After all, what have "scientists" done except given people the knowledge "how to"? But in today's world it's not "scientists" who decide where to implement a technology, it's TPTB. "Sceintists" don't have the power and money to decide where to implement a technology, it's TPTB. They fuck up everything they touch.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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I know this is way off-topic, SIX, but you bring up an interesting point about the advancement of knowledge and it's application, which is technology.
Scientist are driven by the desire to know the causes of all the effects that we see. What causes lightning and thunder? The gods, forging on their great anvils in the sky? What causes disease? Curses? Bad air?
The APPLICATION of that knowldege, however, is driven by different motivations. In a general sense, technology is driven by a very human desire for more reward with less work, and a more certain future that is not shaken apart by disease or catastrophic weather, or all of the natural events that we couldn't explain, much less predict or do anything about. It's about human attempts to control the world and to make it less effortful to live in.
In one of my long-ago posts about Society as an Organism, I tried to explore the idea that society is like an organism, and just as we have cells that make up our bodies ... cells which have no idea of the greater creature of which they are a part ... we, too, make up parts of a greater whole which we can barely perceive. What ties a society together - its language, technology, ethos, etc ... will decide how successful that society will be.
Furthermore, societies, like all organisms, are born, grow, adapt, and die. And that, in a world of multiple societies, there is also evolution: some societies will be more successful, others will be out-competed.
Anyway, I brought all of that up to bring up a long-term and repeating pattern: All great societies so far, at their peak, used more energy per capita than the previous great society. That is because each great society, if it has not lost the history of its science and technology, is able to build on the science and technology of the past, or other societies.
We have gone from being able to use human energy alone, to using fire to stay warm and cook food thru- successively- animal power and charcoal; wind and water power; coal and steam power; petroleum power; electricity; and nuclear power. (thank you KIKI/RUE for that thought.)
WHAT is this energy use for?
MOSTLY, to be able to produce more stuff with less HUMAN effort, and move it arounf from here to there. From the treadle-operated spindle and loom to the water wheel-driven power looms to today's electricity-operated machines which card, spin, dye, and weave, with little human effort.
Each application of technology has taken us humans out of the picture more and more. We don't need to work as much, or think as much, or learn as much, as we used to. As individuals we no longer need to be able to look at the sky and figure if we should plant or harvest tomorrow, or shear the sheep; or how to card, spin and weave wool; or how to preserve food; or store grain; or the thousand-and-one things that "primitive" people needed to know that we no longer need to pay attention to. Because of our use of external power and division of labor, our lives are much SIMPLER. We can spend lots of time doing ...nothing. Sitting at a computer communicating with people far away.
And I think it makes us, at heart, uncomfortable because we have NO AGENCY, and so disengaged from reality that we think our "feelz" mean something, in the real world. So we expect mostly unrealistically, with no way make it come true.
I'm not advocating a return to life as we lived it 1000 years ago. We still want our antibiotics and our power looms and glass plants and steel mills and eletricity. Right?
But I think there is a "Goldilocks zone" for people, one where everyone is engaged with enough work to satisfy the need to know that WE are contributing to our own survival, doing meaningful work that others will pay for, and not just dangling off as some supernumary part of some big blob.
And the reason WHY we can't create this "Goldilocks zone" of
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"Burning scientists at the stake" was a bit of hyperbole, but you seem to get my point otherwise.
Zero good trickles down to the masses anymore from any further advances in technology.
Most of this is because of TPTB, but we can't completely shrug off our own responsibility with this either.
Sure... People are addicted to their smart phones BECAUSE everything about them was designed to be addictive, but there was a time where I drank 4 liters of soda per day as well as the time where I drank 150 cans of Icehouse per week as well as the 12 year period where I smoked weed every single day. I've smoked cigarettes for over 20 years now. And in the absence of booze, I drink up to 24 cups of coffee in a day.
Nobody forced me to do any of that. But it was all just "there", with most of it being heavily marketed so it was never really out of your mind.
I only know two people in my small circle of influence who really did anything productive during the pandemic. I'm spending most of my time with them now when I'm not working on my own projects. Neither of them put on any "Covid 15", sitting around binge watching netflix or looking at their smart phones all day long.
Most of the other people I know are less healthy both physically and mentally over the last year and a half.
That wouldn't be the case if all of this happened 40 years ago with the tech we had back then.
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I'm not advocating a return to life as we lived it 1000 years ago. We still want our antibiotics and our power looms and glass plants and steel mills and eletricity. Right?
Right.
I'm saying maybe a return to 50 years ago would be good. At the very least, it would be nice if we could just stop any further "progress". At this point, I think everything about the word "progress" has become negative. It's no longer a good word.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/massive-foia-release-proves-fauci-f
unded-wuhan-research-construct-sars-related
chimeric virus is one which is made by combining bits of one virus with another.
This was explained in great detail by Chris Martenson, who highlighted the insertion very early in the pandemic.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Thanks for joining me in crazytown. Yes, this is exactly what I think happened. In Chapel Hill it was called "gain of function" research. It was suspended in 2013, and then resurrected in 2018, though appears to have gone on in the interval anyway. After 2018 it fled to China, with all associated names being involved.
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Quote:At last! Signym, go to the next step, which would be calling for a revolution overthrowing the Top 1% Richest Americans. I presume that your "TPTB", or The Powers That Be, are approximately the same as the Top 1%, which makes them easy to identify for whatever purpose (assassination? imprisonment? finally forcing them to pay their taxes rather than let them cheat as they will?) that 6ixStringJack might have in mind.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX:
You forgot: AI so we will no longer need humans to think.
Maybe we should burn programmers at the stake.
*****
Anyway, KIKI is right. Now YOU'RE the one talking about killing people categorically. You sound just like WISHY, except you have a different target.
Killing not for anything that anyone has DONE, but for what they THINK. After all, what have "scientists" done except given people the knowledge "how to"? But in today's world it's not "scientists" who decide where to implement a technology, it's TPTB. "Scientists" don't have the power and money to decide where to implement a technology, it's TPTB. They fuck up everything they touch.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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What is it with you and "taxes", SECONDRATE?
Do you think "taxes" will undo all of the distortions of today's economy?
How about ... doing away with finacialism for a start? Getting rid of the stock market, "futures", hedge funds, fractional reserve banking, and all of that bullshit?
Getting rid of rentier capitalism?
And then about anti-monopoly ACTION by the government?
Direct investment by the government in production, not just infrastructure?
WORKPLACE DEMOCRACY?
Yanno, the system is so fundamentally corrupt, just paying obeisance to "taxes" or even killing off a few people isn't going to fix it.
(oh BTW it's the top 0.01% who're the real decision-makers.)
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Don't let Second derail our conversation sigs.
Although, I suppose I should applaud him for being able to make a post that didn't have the word "Trump" in it.
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Quote:I don't live in Crazytown, DREAMTROVE.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/massive-foia-release-proves-fauci-f
unded-wuhan-research-construct-sars-related
chimeric virus is one which is made by combining bits of one virus with another.
This was explained in great detail by Chris Martenson, who highlighted the insertion very early in the pandemic.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Thanks for joining me in crazytown. Yes, this is exactly what I think happened. In Chapel Hill it was called "gain of function" research. It was suspended in 2013, and then resurrected in 2018, though appears to have gone on in the interval anyway. After 2018 it fled to China, with all associated names being involved.
I live in the real world.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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