Some Covid-19 thoughts
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UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
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DREAMTROVE, may I restate your concern about the vaccine in different terms?
MY concern about the vaccine is not that it overlaps with syncytin, will make women sterile, cause premature aging or autoimmune response, contains fetal cells, or inserts itself into our DNA.
MY biggest concern with a spike protein-based vaccine is that it is the spike protein that is capable of triggering cytokine storm, and that repeated exposure to the spike protein thru booster shots may increase the possibility of cytokine storm on the next exposure, either to th actual virus or to a subsequent jab.
The argument against that is that so few have experienced drastic side effects from the vacine [compared to experience with the virus itself IN THE ABOVE 50 POPULATION] that the vaccine is still safer - IN THE ABOVE 50 POPULATION- than getting the virus itself.
Relative risk is why I would not recommend a vaccine for the fit, under 50 population.
Seeing as you seem to have Covid-19, I direct your attention to the paper I linked in
New human-to-human..." http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&p=54 which discusses the monoclonal antibody treatment and research for moderate to advanced cases of Covid-19.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
MY biggest concern with a spike protein-based vaccine is that it is the spike protein that is capable of triggering cytokine storm
It can be very damaging, and lead to autoimmune conditions, and death. A friend of mine's father just died from the jab, I got the blow by blow as it was happening. Basically in three days his lungs exploded. So, yes, for some people this is a very serious issue, and for most it's notQuote:
Relative risk is why I would not recommend a vaccine for the fit, under 50 population.
I can definitely agree with this. I might move the cutoff age up a little, maybe 60. The dad in question was 57. But people with relatively healthy immune systems who are not in danger from the virus are in danger from auto-immune conditions.
In a sane world, everyone can make an unpressured choice. I don't think the complaint is that the vax exists, it's the vax mandates, and the high risk untested vaccine that anecdotally a lot of us see a lot of negative result, radically life destroying negative results, in people to whom the virus itself does not pose a major risk
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U.S. covid death toll hits 1,500 a day amid delta scourge
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No it didn't.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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My job is forcing me to take the covid vaccine or else they will let me go. Is that legal? Related questions: Are worker protections Socialist? Are Fair labor laws government intrusion into private business?
Answer: 49 of the 50 US states have “employment at will” laws, which gutted worker protections, reduced or eliminated fair labor relations boards, and made it absolutely legal for employers to terminate employees with or without notice and with or without cause for any reason whatsoever as long as the reason isn’t membership in a protected class.
So, yes, it’s legal.
I see this question a lot on Quora, and I must confess I do literally, not figuratively, laugh every time I see it.
When Ronald Reagan was in office, one of the big conservative legislative pushes was to gut fair worker relations laws and abolish fair labor relations boards in favor of a system that offered basically zero worker protections. Worker protections are Socialist! Fair labor laws are government intrusion in private business! Business works better without government oversight!
Conservatives battled ceaselessly for decades to pass these laws. Liberals kept saying “you know, if you pass these laws, there will come a day when they’re used against conservatives” and conservatives were all “no, no, no, never happen, I can’t hear you la la la.”
Now here we are. 49 states have implemented at-will employment laws, and…
Conservatives are having their contracts dropped because of the things they Tweet. Conservatives who don’t want to wear masks or get vaccinated are getting fired. And conservatives are all “it’s not fair this can’t be legal how dare you do that MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!”
We told you.
We told you this would happen.
Yes. Yes, it is legal.
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-covid-19-vaccine-be-made-legally-mandato
ry-Can-jobs-mandate-that-you-have-it-to-go-to-work/answer/Franklin-Veaux
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Early in the pandemic, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick urged elderly Americans to go out and contract the virus and “sacrifice” themselves to keep the economy open, referring to it as their patriotic duty.
Older people would rather die than let Covid-19 harm US economy – Texas official
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rathe
r-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick
More recently, Newsmax talking head Rob Schmitt contended that vaccination goes against nature, opining “if there is some disease out there—maybe there’s just an ebb and flow to life where something’s supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that’s just kind of the way evolution goes. Vaccines kind of stand in the way of that.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/07/13/newsmax-rob-schmitt-va
ccine-against-nature/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Second,
there's a reason the average conservative is older than the average liberal
liberal is a position of not knowing, it's just a position of ignorance. When you know, you'll be a conservative also, so it's in your future, if you survive.
Now, sure there are moron conservatives who are reiterating whatever their parents said, and there are even dumber ones who i think of as not moderate or conservative but just "right wing" who are just like left wingers, but they subscribe to a "right wing" media to which they have also outsourced their brains
here's what never happens, and this is why I'm posting it. The left is never sitting there with the information that the right doesn't know that can enlighten the right and convince them to be left (again)
that's because left is a position of ignorance, and you can't tell a person who is informed that they should become ignorant again
so, morons on the right notwithstanding, it's not going to work as a tactic.
now that said, the right believes a ton of things that are still stupid and you can debate them one at a time and win, as long as you're willing to look at why they believe them and also self examine why you believe what you believe, and then maybe both of you are wrong, as a third possibility
but that's a different sort of discussion than the ones you've been having
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The problem is that Second can never win an argument.
At least he can't here.
His track record of posts makes anything he says suspect. He contradicts himself on a daily basis because he doesn't actually believe in anything other than Left = Good / Right = Bad.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:6ix, winning an argument is not something that can be done over the internet. Where are referees watching the arguments/discussions and calling penalties on the internet? Where is the scorekeeper? Where are officials setting the rules? Nowhere. On the internet, the losers declare themselves the winners! There are no penalties for losers of arguments on the internet because it is only bits of data. Real world winners get tangible rewards, not bits. And real world losers lose their life, their job/money/house/marriage, or just end up sick while wasting time on the internet.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The problem is that Second can never win an argument.
At least he can't here.
His track record of posts makes anything he says suspect. He contradicts himself on a daily basis because he doesn't actually believe in anything other than Left = Good / Right = Bad.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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