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Thursday, September 2, 2021 8:54 PM

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In the nucleus, the proteins are made from the mRNA sequence in a process known as translation.
Proteins are assembled by RNA IN RIBOSOMES, NOT IN THE NUCLEUS.
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Yes, obviously, so he's wrong. But why are you assassinating the russian? it's not an article about science, his point is that the work shows signs of being copied from a soviet bioweapons program. I mean, you don't need this article anyway to see that it's a bioweapon, I was just pointing out that it was known information that programming an overactive immune response to the point of being potentially fatal was a bioweapon tactic.





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That fundamental misunderstanding colors everything that comes after. There is a CONSTANT conflation of RNA and DNA, which is being used to drive fears of "genetic modifications".


no, it doesn't. the authors claim is not that the person is being altered, it's that it's bioweaponry, which it is

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They also found the way to effectively hijack the body’s natural immune processes by producing overstimulation of the immune system through the “reprogramming”

HOW???
Evidence-free claim.



Why are you hating this russian guy. And don't pretend you didn't follow that logic, you can't know enough to post the rest of the things you posted here and not get the point that even the temporary execution of non-nucleic code to produce the toxic spike protein would cause the immune system to overreact, mistake other tissues for the spike protein, as that spike protein is designed to do, and additionally we know that the response is so overpowered the immune system attacks the specific tissue that is executing the mRNA code causing destruction of that tissue in an autoimmune fashion which is why Phil's dad's lungs exploded, it's why we have 800,000 reports of just this sort of attack in an official report I just posted from the industry itself.

We do know this already. You know this already. You're arguing semantics to shoot down a point that you already agree with by wrapping it in the collective misunderstanding that the vaccine rewrites your DNA which we all know it doesn't, but that doesn't mean the point is not true about the mRNA transcription in the cell of the vaccine code causing the toxic effect observed in the 800,000 reports because you already know that it does.

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Antibodies are NOT cytokines. This has nothing to do with 'cytokine storm'

We all know how the immune system works. the cytokine storm brings the immune response that results in the dendrites et al collecting and creating the antibody reponse. If anyone here does not know how it works, here's a simple video



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And so, should we trust this author who CLAIMS to know about Soviet biowarfare technology but makes fundamental errors about biology and countless baseless claims?

fair criticism, and this occurred to me, so he knows about the program but was not the scientist. I got that. Maybe he's making it up and Lew has been had.
I ran into the piece a few days ago and you had asked how this was related to bioweapons. It's how you do bioweapons. AIDS would make a terrible battlefield bioweapon. The common cold would be more effective in disabling the enemy troops. my only point was this is how bioweapons work, and I don't need argue it, we already know it was classified as bioweapons research when they were doing it here.

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You say you used to work in this field, DT. If you did, you would have caught his basic errors. You also said you were a tomato farmer and that you descended from European nobility.


I did catch them. I haven't grown tomatoes in years. I think everyone is descended from

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 8:54 PM

Sig,

the law is not a system of videogame rules. It's founded on a concept called "the spirit of the law" which is "what was the lawmakers' intent" when writing the law. I don't really specifically care whether a russian writing about a soviet bioweapons program offhandedly gets our law wrong, but we do have laws against bioterrorism, which the application of here had already reached the point where the team was spooked enough that they moved from chapel hill NC to wuhan china. So whether we, or the authorities, or some russian think that they were violating the law, the perpetrators themsevles were quite sure they were violating the law. look up the gain of function research also.

This vaccine was already patented before the outbreak occurred. research was done over 20 years, it's a SARS outbreak with a SARS vaccine made in early 2019, and the outbreak was almost certainly the intentional release of the pathogen. I'm sure the biden administration already knows this, which is why I posted the thread about Avril Haines, because her comments betray that we already know this.

The issue of the conspiracy theory is that since our team moved from chapel hill nc to wuhan china where the outbreak later occurred, and were working on the mrna vaccine and also the coronavirus gain of function, as soon as we had the patented vaccine, we released the virus ourselves. I'd say this is 99% likely.

So the technicals of where they were or weren't breaking the law is immaterial as they do damn well they were breaking the law, and violating international treaties. I don't think they'd be okay by Chinese law either, but they'd been here since 2002, and then they moved to China in 2018, so chinese authorities would have to have been more on to them in a year than americans in 20 years.

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:27 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of MISinformation about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.


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You didn't fix it.

Both statements are true.

How many people do you think that got the shot know 1/1000th of the information and/or misinformation that you do?

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:47 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of information about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.



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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."



Basically. I mean that's why I called them vaxtards. They injected themselves with a bioweapon without first knowing what it was that they were injecting themselves with. Now I don't feel that's appropriate if they looked the information up and were lied to. But I think most people didn't. Tjey were like "doc, this stops the bad bad?" And doc said "yep kiddo, it stops the bad bad. now i gotta do the jab jab and they you go home"

Problem is,


Siggie

you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true. So why argue against information you is true? At this point, I'm giving up. You get it, you know what's going on, and you just need to re-examine your own psychological investment as to why you're backing up corporations that you know to be corrupt who are conducting bioware, who you know to be conducting biowarfare, and that may endanger you and yours.

I didn't come here to win a debate for political gain, I posted this to save lives. You now have enough information to save yourself and others. If you choose not to do so, then that's on you.

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:50 PM

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of information about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.



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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."



Basically. I mean that's why I called them vaxtards. They injected themselves with a bioweapon without first knowing what it was that they were injecting themselves with. Now I don't feel that's appropriate if they looked the information up and were lied to. But I think most people didn't. Tjey were like "doc, this stops the bad bad?" And doc said "yep kiddo, it stops the bad bad. now i gotta do the jab jab and they you go home"

Problem is,


Siggie

you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true. So why argue against information you is true? At this point, I'm giving up. You get it, you know what's going on, and you just need to re-examine your own psychological investment as to why you're backing up corporations that you know to be corrupt who are conducting bioware, who you know to be conducting biowarfare, and that may endanger you and yours.

I didn't come here to win a debate for political gain, I posted this to save lives. You now have enough information to save yourself and others. If you choose not to do so, then that's on you.




That's why I don't have to bother wasting any of my time reading anything about this virus or its vaccine.

It was made by liars, and pushed by liars to the people who get lied to every day of their lives.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVESiggie
you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true.

So far, DREAMTROVE, you have not brought true facts about the vaccine to the board.

It is not transmissible.
It does not contain fetal cells.
It has not- so far- been shown to change DNA, and is unlikely to do so.
It has no overlap with syncytin.
No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.
NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.

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YES, there was all kinds of research going on with SARS [and other viruses] long before SARS-Cov2. That is the nature of research!

YES, there is a cabal of extremely powerful psychopaths who want to rule - oh, and btw, depopulate- the world.

But intentions alone don't accomplish goals. If that were true, then Soros and Gates and Schwab would already have depopulated the world! As powerful as they are, they have to act in the real world, through real mechanisms, that leave real evidence. So as much as their intentions are evil ... and I will grant you that all day long and twice on Sunday that these people are evil megalomaniacs... they are not omnipotent. Their fantassies and desires don't come true automatically.

Again, please bring EVIDENCE to the board on how this vaccine is a "bioweapon". Show me HOW it is supposed to do what you claim.

Thank you!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 11:08 PM


Also

the vax is not self-replicating (as well as not being transmissible)
you can't spray it from the air and expect people to be vaxed

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 11:12 PM

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6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of information about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.




DREAMTROVE: Basically. I mean that's why I called them vaxtards. They injected themselves with a bioweapon without first knowing what it was that they were injecting themselves with. Now I don't feel that's appropriate if they looked the information up and were lied to. But I think most people didn't. Tjey were like "doc, this stops the bad bad?" And doc said "yep kiddo, it stops the bad bad. now i gotta do the jab jab and they you go home"

Problem is,
Siggie
you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true. So why argue against information you is true? At this point, I'm giving up. You get it, you know what's going on, and you just need to re-examine your own psychological investment as to why you're backing up corporations that you know to be corrupt who are conducting bioware, who you know to be conducting biowarfare, and that may endanger you and yours.

I didn't come here to win a debate for political gain, I posted this to save lives. You now have enough information to save yourself and others. If you choose not to do so, then that's on you.



SIX: That's why I don't have to bother wasting any of my time reading anything about this virus or its vaccine.

It was made by liars, and pushed by liars to the people who get lied to every day of their lives.

Well, SIX you also claime the virus is "nothing".

If so, then the vaccine is LESS THAN nothing.

I'm sure this was all started by some [possibly evil-intentioned] escaped experiment.
At this point, tho, governments (which have a somewhat different focus that the Davos crowd) are floundering on how to get a handle on this escapee which, being single-stranded RNA, mutates rather easily and has managed to evade all attempts at control.

It's a great money-maker for Big Pharma in the west.

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Thursday, September 2, 2021 11:52 PM

Sig,

I said I was done, and I'm done. Sorry

You clearly have enough facts to arrive at the conclusion. That's all I was here to do. You can choose not to admit the conclusion. But that doesn't mean you have not arrived there. You did arrive there. And you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. With two sockpuppets.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So far, DREAMTROVE, you have not brought true facts about the vaccine to the board.

It is not transmissible.
It does not contain fetal cells.
It has not- so far- been shown to change DNA, and is unlikely to do so.
It has no overlap with syncytin.
No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.
NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.


Okay, one at a time , but not debating this. This is an undead argument at this point.

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It is not transmissible.

never said it was, this is your claim, not mine
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It does not contain fetal cells.

again, your claim, not mine
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It has not- so far- been shown to change DNA, and is unlikely to do so.
also not mine


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It has no overlap with syncytin.


obviously it does. you can read the fact check written by morons for morons that belongs to the vaccine companies, or you can dig through all the science. or you can read a number of reports out there who say "not enough overlap" which would be true if the vax didn't cause dozens of separate immune attacks. Fact is, the vaxed have this problem. Guy came into my shop and said "no, it was fine, I got the vax, and nothing happened. That guy smells like a rotting corpse. Everyone else can smell it and can't stand to be near him now. But he doesn't smell it. He thinks he's fine. He's a fricking zombie.

fact check
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-syncytin/fact-check-avail
able-mrna-vaccines-do-not-target-syncytin-1-a-protein-vital-to-successful-pregnancies-idUSKBN2A42S7

fact check never says something's false unless it's already proven true

some science that doesn't contain arguments if you want to do the research yourself
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092852/
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/there-is-no-risk-of-or-infertil
ity-from-covid-19-vaccines-as-sars-cov-2-proteins-and-placenta-proteins-are-different
/
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/sars-cov-2-spike-protein-sh
ares-sequence-with-a-human-protein-67596

I spent 5 minutes looking for this piece easlier that said "small overlap" and was on a pro-vax page, i think there is a lot of that about, i didn't find it, but i read at least two. The thing about small overlap is dozens of separate attacks creates the 20% i see in "one in five smells like old people" and then it all just makes intuitive sense for the love of god. So, if everyone gets their boosters, it'll be 100% eventually. Or 95% which is the kill ratio bill gates said he wanted
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No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.


I just posted to you 800,000 such cases earlier in this thread. So it doesn't matter what it is or isn't theoretically, it's admitted reality but the industry's own data collection

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NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.

not even sure what this claim is supposed to me. the US govt kicked them out. They're still banned in belarus. interestingly where that research was being done in theory.

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YES, there was all kinds of research going on with SARS [and other viruses] long before SARS-Cov2. That is the nature of research!

YES, there is a cabal of extremely powerful psychopath

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Friday, September 3, 2021 1:26 AM


I'm going to jump in right about now.

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
"It has no overlap with syncytin"
obviously it does.

No, it doesn't. I even posted the genetic sequences of both, along with the 3-d structures. There is no overlap.
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which would be true if the vax didn't cause dozens of separate immune attacks
Such as? Links? BTW, the list of supposed vaccination problems was merely a list of things people noted after the vaccine.

"I got the vaccine, and I got a cold". Well I could link a bunch of things in time that have no cause-and-effect relation of one to the other. I got up, and I saw the sky was cloudy. He sneezed, and his car wouldn't start. They sang a song, and there was a small earthquake. Believe it of not, things happen in sequence over time that have no cause-and-effect relationship with each other, at all.
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Guy came into my shop and said "no, it was fine, I got the vax, and nothing happened. That guy smells like a rotting corpse. Everyone else can smell it and can't stand to be near him now. But he doesn't smell it. He thinks he's fine. He's a fricking zombie.
For one thing, the 2-nonenal 'smell' you originally claimed came from the vaccine (or was it the virus?) smells nothing like a rotting corpse. And do you know what he normally smelled like, by any chance? Or do you think he might have just eaten eggs, or cheese, and needed to brush his teeth? I can think of a lot of reasons why someone might smell bad, either chronically or temporarily, that have nothing to do with 2-nonenal or a vaccine.

As to the links you posted that you seem to think indicate a relation between spike protein and syncytin ...
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092852/
This link doesn't at all address any viral spike protein at all or SARS-CoV-2 at all. It addresses the envelope protein of non-specified viruses. So it fails to draw any relevance to syncytin and SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Furthermore, you've fundamentally misunderstood that there are different proteins in SARS-CoV-2 by equating them. Spike proteins and envelope proteins are very different proteins. "The coronaviral genome contains four major structural proteins: the spike (S), membrane (M), envelope (E) and the nucleocapsid (N) protein" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32342926/
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https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/there-is-no-risk-of-or-infertil
ity-from-covid-19-vaccines-as-sars-cov-2-proteins-and-placenta-proteins-are-different
/

This link actually denies any similarity between syncytin-1 and spike protein, it's stated right up front.
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https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/sars-cov-2-spike-protein-sh
ares-sequence-with-a-human-protein-67596

And this link talks about a potential similarity with a sodium protein channel IN SKIN and the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, not with syncytin.

I don't know what you think you're proving with these links, but maybe you should look further, "if you want to do the research yourself ".
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No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.
I just posted to you 800,000 such cases earlier in this thread.

See above.
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NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.
not even sure what this claim is supposed to [be].

The argument is clear. The companies that are making vaccines are in hard economic competition with each other. For sure they're reverse-engineering the vaccines of their competitors. If any company found something suspicious about another vaccine, it would be in their economic intere

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