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Wednesday, August 11, 2021 7:32 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Not one American in 100 would click the link below:



You're so Elite.

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Not one American in 1,000 would read the Conclusion... Americans are NOT going to do it. Therefore, the Democrats can't get it done in Congress.


1 in 1000 voted for Biden*.

That sounds about right.

6ix, I read what you write over at this thread:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58882&mid=11385
85#1138585


You are no different than 999 Americans out of 1,000. You are alone. That's what you wrote. You have no lofty purpose. (By the way, worshiping god or worrying about children/money or fixing your house is NOT lofty. ) No Republican Senator need be concerned about what you want because you aren't persistent and you won't apply sufficient brute force to make your Republican Senator concerned about you. Instead of thinking about you, your GOP Senator will spend his workday looking after people who are persistent and who will use brute force. Who are they? The top 1% richest. More accurately, the top 0.1% richest. The 1 in 1,000 Americans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 4:50 PM

How Trump blew his chance to steal the election

Trump committed abundant crimes in trying to steal the election, but being Trump, he was impulsive and disorganized and failed.

The months leading up to Nov. 3, 2020, were for Donald Trump almost a carbon copy of what he had done going into the presidential election four years previously: He thumbed tweets, whined at his rallies and complained to anyone who would listen that the election had been "rigged" by Democrats. Of course, after election eve in 2016, we never heard another peep out of him about the dastardly Democrats and the wily ways they had rigged the election against him, because he won.

But from the moment that his network of pet poodles at Fox News called Arizona for Joe Biden in November of 2020, causing a series of eruptions in the private quarters at the White House, culminated in a call to Fox executives to demand that the network reverse its Arizona projection, Trump understood that this time it would be different. He would lose.

Trump turned immediately to the courts, filing more than 60 federal lawsuits in the battleground states he lost claiming that the election had been "stolen" from him. But as one case after another went down to defeat or outright dismissal, he turned to loyalist loons like former general Michael Flynn, online conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, former White House adviser Sebastian Gorka, My Pillow guy Mike Lindell and — wait for it — the Proud Boys to push his obsession that he hadn't lost, and that the election had been rigged by nefarious forces. . . .

After seven hours of testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee last Saturday by former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, and five hours of testimony before the same committee on Friday by Rosen's former acting deputy, Richard Donoghue, we now know that behind the scenes, Trump was very busy. . . .

Trump's problem, to put it frankly, was that he didn't start committing crimes early enough. The crimes he committed in December and January were largely impulsive, not carefully planned or focused. He exploded with tweets and phone calls and meetings and rallies.

In short, Trump was Trump, as incompetent a criminal conspirator as he was a president. The only question left to be answered at this point is whether Merrick Garland and the Biden Department of Justice will have the courage to charge him and his co-conspirators with the felonies they committed: defrauding the United States by attempting to illegally influence the outcome of the 2020 election.

If that crime sounds familiar, that is because it is the same one special counsel Robert Mueller charged 24 Russian nationals with committing in 2016, when they illegally hacked into Democratic National Committee servers, stole campaign emails and set up fake accounts to influence voters on American social media platforms. With Donald Trump, nothing is ever new. Just watch him. He's out there right now raising $100 million to do it all over again in 2024. And the entire Republican Party is right there with him.

More at https://www.salon.com/2021/08/11/how-trump-blew-his-chance-to-steal-th
e-election-the-clock-was-ticking-he-was-tweeting
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 4:50 PM

Why Hasn’t Trump Been Charged For Attempting To Overturn Election?



Many Democrats are nervous about stating that Donald Trump's many attempts to overturn the election were criminal, were violations of the law. Why is Donald Trump not charged with any crimes?

“The real answer,” writes Andrew Reinbach, “is a bad one: It’s how we do things in this country. Jefferson Davis was held for two years but never tried for treason. Lee was indicted, but never tried. No one involved in the Business Plot** was indicted, though the House UnAmerican Activities Committee found they were ready, willing, and able — they just never pulled the trigger. Nixon was allowed to resign, then pardoned. Trump pulled this in hopes of avoiding the pending criminal cases in New York. But, alas, he’ll probably not be indicted for 1/6. He may, however, be convicted in New York. That’ll do.”

** The Business Plot (also called the Wall Street Putsch and The White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933 in the United States to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a dictator. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler asserted that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with Butler as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 13, 2021 9:11 PM

Did we need just another few months in Afghanistan?

In the New York Times today, Fred Kagan has a guest essay titled "Biden Could Have Stopped the Taliban. He Chose Not To." I haven't heard Kagan's name since the heyday of the warbloggers circa 2004, so I was curious to see what he had to say:

"As U.S. military planners well know, the Afghan war has a seasonal pattern. The Taliban leadership retreats to bases, largely in Pakistan, every winter and then launches the group’s fighting season campaign in the spring, moving into high gear in the summer after the poppy harvest. At the very least, the United States should have continued to support the Afghans through this period to help them blunt the Taliban’s latest offensive and buy time to plan for a future devoid of American military assistance. American diplomats could have used this time to negotiate access to regional bases from which to continue counterterrorism operations. Simultaneously, the American military should have prepared contingencies in case those negotiations failed."

In other words, just a few more months would have done it! After 20 years of American training and assistance, after which the Afghan military literally collapsed at the mere sight of Taliban troops, waiting until next year would have made all the difference.

I don't doubt that Kagan is sincere in this belief. That's the problem.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210813112158/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/08/12/opinion/biden-afghanistan-taliban.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 13, 2021 9:57 PM


The US isn't entirely out of Afghanistan. There is still plenty of bombing and covert ops going on. I do wonder how the CIA self-funding heroin business is going on tho. My sense is that despite all appearances, that will carry on as per usual (unless they've largely supplanted that trade with other drugs in other countries and no longer need the Golden Triangle).

Joe* is trying to negotiate with other countries to carry the white man's burden. I guess we'll see just how vital other countries think Afghanistan is to their own welfare.


OH ... yeah. This'll be a good opportunity to see how quickly Afghanistan disappears from the news*. The more we read about how the those poor people are suffering because of US laziness and perfidy, the more it'll appear that the Deep State is still running the Afghanistan War show.

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Friday, August 13, 2021 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

OH ... yeah. This'll be a good opportunity to see how quickly Afghanistan disappears from the news*. The more we read about how the those poor people are suffering because of US laziness and perfidy, the more it'll appear that the Deep State is still running that Afghanistan War show.

It is the Afghan people's laziness and perfidy and general chicken-heartedness causing Afghanistan suffering because there has been only a few thousand Americans there for the last year, while there are 40,000,000 Afghans there at this moment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Afghanistan

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 13, 2021 10:38 PM


Despite your claim to Afghani's laziness and perfidy being at the root of their suffering - they were doing just fine until the US decided to fund the Taliban in the 80's. Because ... RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! And then there was the CIA-funded drug trade which put a LOT of money - and weapons - into the hands of the warlords and Taliban, against which common people had no defense.

The obscene volume of money funding the drug trade is unstoppable.

And just to put this back OT: "A thread for Democrats Only" - these policies were pursued vigorously by democrats*.

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Friday, August 13, 2021 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Despite your claim to Afghani's laziness and perfidy being at the root of their suffering - they were doing just fine until the US decided to fund the Taliban in the 80's. Because ... RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! And then there was the CIA-funded drug trade which put a LOT of money - and weapons - into the hands of the warlords and Taliban, against which common people had no defense.

The obscene volume of money funding the drug trade is unstoppable.

And just to put this back OT: "A thread for Democrats Only" - these policies were pursued vigorously by democrats*.

Who are you kidding when you say Afghanistan was doing fine? The Afghans have been the most backward people for thousands of years and they won't change their ways and it is all the fault of 40,000,000 Afghans, not the fault of a few dozen Democrats in DC.

https://www.thoughtco.com/afghanistan-facts-and-history-195107
https://www.press-citizen.com/story/opinion/2021/08/10/collapse-narco-
state-may-bring-misery-afghanistan-and-iowa/5556158001
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 14, 2021 12:46 AM

Reign of Terror: How the 9/11 Era Destabilized America and Produced Trump

In his new book, Spencer Ackerman makes the case that the Trump years were the logical conclusion of a multidecade borderless war without end.

Trump internalized and weaponized the war’s most important lesson of all: “The terrorists were whomever you said they were.”

A Pulitzer Prize winner whose work has appeared in the Daily Beast and The Guardian, Ackerman this year chose to go independent, partnering with an editor to publish his journalism via Substack. He spoke to The Intercept about the disconnect in how the U.S. security state has historically responded to the nation’s oldest, deadliest form of terrorism — that of the white supremacist far right — and its world-altering response to the September 11 attacks. Ackerman recounted how events early on in Trump’s presidency, particularly the reemergence of key figures from the war on terror as top administration officials, motivated him to write “Reign of Terror”; spoke about the people whose stories shaped the book; and shared his analysis of the state of the war on terror today — and where it might go next.

More at https://theintercept.com/2021/08/13/reign-of-terror-spencer-ackerman-s
eptember-11
/

Download the book for free from mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.ch/search.php?req=Spencer+Ackerman

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 14, 2021 3:33 AM


blah blah blah ...

There are plenty of 'backwards' indigenous peoples all around the globe who really don't need anybody's 'intervention' to 'improve' them from their 'backward' state so that they can be 'advanced' like us.

Or, more pointedly, like you.

Because seriously, anybody 'backwards' who's like you is in deep mental and moral trouble.

/snicker



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