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Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 AM

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Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.

I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.

Are you working on a legal way to swindle fools out of their money, 6ix? Because if you aren't working on a swindle, yet you're reading that book, you're wasting your time.



That Jamaican took every last dime with that scam.
It was worth it just to learn some slight of hand.
~Modest Mouse


I'm always adding to my tool collection.



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Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.

I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.

Are you working on a legal way to swindle fools out of their money, 6ix? Because if you aren't working on a swindle, yet you're reading that book, you're wasting your time.



That Jamaican took every last dime with that scam.
It was worth it just to learn some slight of hand.
~Modest Mouse


I'm always adding to my tool collection.

Slights of Hand, Tool Collection -- what cute names for being a cheating, lying crook who hasn't been caught. 6ix, you (and every Trumptard I know) don't care that Trump hasn't paid his taxes. The excuse for not caring? IRS already has his tax returns which claim he paid nothing for 20 years because of, ha-ha, "deductions". With Trumptards it is okay for Trump to legally swindle the IRS out of tax payments until the IRS stumbles upon the swindle. As with every tax return, it is not the IRS calculating Trump's taxes. It is Trump calculating his own taxes. Completely accidentally, Nixon got caught cheating, but he wasn't caught by the IRS and he didn't voluntarily "correct" his tax return, ha-ha, "errors". If the IRS had collected the taxes owed by cheaters in the last 52 years since Nixon cheated in 1969, the IRS would have collected an additional $52 trillion, adjusted for inflation, which is much larger than the national debt of $29 trillion. That is the consequence of not punishing cheating, lying crooks who vote for Trump.

Nixon's Troublesome Tax Returns
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df8007
5b9dd/f8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:53 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.

I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.

Are you working on a legal way to swindle fools out of their money, 6ix? Because if you aren't working on a swindle, yet you're reading that book, you're wasting your time.



That Jamaican took every last dime with that scam.
It was worth it just to learn some slight of hand.
~Modest Mouse


I'm always adding to my tool collection.

Slights of Hand, Tool Collection -- what cute names for being a cheating, lying crook who hasn't been caught.



Nah.

I buy a lot of actual tools. Pretty much anytime any job comes up that most people would pay somebody else to do I end up doing it myself at a fraction of the cost, buying the tools that I need to do the job, and also adding the tool of knowledge about how to get the job done next time it comes up. Like when I saved my neighbor's garage with a pole jack last fall that certainly would have caved in this February when we had 40" of snow that sat on our roofs for 3 weeks straight.

A job I did for free for them, I might add.

But the obligation has been planted. If I ever need a favor, they're obligated.

I don't need to scam people to get what I want. I have a lot of tools at my disposal to actually genuinely give something valuable in return for something else valuable.

And unlike most Americans, I have a lot of free time at a relatively young age to facilitate this on a fairly large scale if and when I so choose. There's no need to gouge anybody. You already know that I'm excellent with money and I don't need much to get by.


As for the book, there's nothing wrong with adding some mental tools to my arsenal dealing with the psychology of people and using that to further my advantage.





But you keep reading your crybaby books written by crybabies for crybabies and wondering why you never have any productive days and why nobody listens to anything you say or does anything you ask them to do.

I appears to have worked really well for you so far.



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Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:17 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

But you keep reading your crybaby books written by crybabies for crybabies and wondering why you never have any productive days and why nobody listens to anything you say or does anything you ask them to do.

I appears to have worked really well for you so far.

The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that peacefully settling political differences is the only way. Talk, followed by more talk, followed by additional discussions, followed by reasoning with crooks about the benefits for all of society when the crooks stop being liars. But if the Democrats want government that doesn't run up a huge debt, the Democrats will have to force people like Trump to pay taxes. The Democrats won't be able to talk him into complying with tax laws. He will simply talk back, forever, and not pay. For that matter, the kind of people who vote for Trump, with their slights of hand and tool collections of dishonest techniques, won't comply without being forced.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 23, 2021 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

But you keep reading your crybaby books written by crybabies for crybabies and wondering why you never have any productive days and why nobody listens to anything you say or does anything you ask them to do.

I appears to have worked really well for you so far.

The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that peacefully settling political differences is the only way. Talk, followed by more talk, followed by additional discussions, followed by reasoning with crooks about the benefits for all of society when the crooks stop being liars. But if the Democrats want government that doesn't run up a huge debt, the Democrats will have to force people like Trump to pay taxes. The Democrats won't be able to talk him into complying with tax laws. He will simply talk back, forever, and not pay. For that matter, the kind of people who vote for Trump, with their slights of hand and tool collections of dishonest techniques, won't comply without being forced.



The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that they somehow have a monopoly on virtue.

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Monday, August 23, 2021 3:28 PM

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The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that they somehow have a monopoly on virtue.

Before and during the Civil War, the Confederates literally could not stop talking about how morally, spiritually and even militarily superior they were to those social justice warriors (SJW) who condemned the Biblical approved system of slavery. There was no way to change the Confederates' minds about their own superiority because, for a long while, the Confederates actually were militarily superior and they had all the wealth they needed from their cotton plantations to prove their superior manners. In modern Texas, most of the Trump voters would fit right into the Confederacy because they haven't changed their psychology of being the best in their own imaginations without being more than mediocre in reality. Being only mediocre, they struggle to stay in the middle class, but believing they are superior, they can't believe their struggles are their fault. It's got to be the SJW's fault.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 23, 2021 9:09 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that they somehow have a monopoly on virtue.

Before and during the Civil War, the Confederates literally could not stop talking about how morally, spiritually and even militarily superior they were to those social justice warriors (SJW) who condemned the Biblical approved system of slavery. There was no way to change the Confederates' minds about their own superiority because, for a long while, the Confederates actually were militarily superior and they had all the wealth they needed from their cotton plantations to prove their superior manners. In modern Texas, most of the Trump voters would fit right into the Confederacy because they haven't changed their psychology of being the best in their own imaginations without being more than mediocre in reality. Being only mediocre, they struggle to stay in the middle class, but believing they are superior, they can't believe their struggles are their fault. It's got to be the SJW's fault.



If you're going to bring up some dumb old shit that's not even related to the point, I'll just point out that Southern Democrats were confederates and that Abe Lincoln was a Republican. Hillary Clinton spent her life blowing Robert Byrd.

It's not even worth conversing with you anymore on this topic since you won't just admit that there are plenty of shitty people in every party. I don't know what's so hard about that dude. It's very easy to see.

You need to detach your identity from the Democrat Party. Until you do that, you'll never get healthy.

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Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:01 PM

“In my books I’ve imagined people salting the Gulf Stream, damming the glaciers sliding off the Greenland ice cap, pumping ocean water into the dry basins of the Sahara and Asia to create salt seas, pumping melted ice from Antarctica north to provide freshwater, genetically engineering bacteria to sequester more carbon in the roots of trees, raising Florida 30 feet to get it back above water, and (hardest of all) comprehensively changing capitalism.”
-Science fiction writer Kim Stanley Robinson, “Earth: Under Repair Forever,” OnEarth, December 3, 2012.

Kim Stanley Robinson: a climate plan for a world in flames

https://www.ft.com/content/ff94df96-b702-4e01-addd-f4253d0eecf6

Kim Stanley Robinson, August 19, 2021

What does it feel like to live on the brink of a vast historical change? It feels like now.

Of course that sounds hyperbolic, and maybe even panicky, but I think we’re there. Not that a science fiction writer can see the future any better than anyone else; very often worse. But between the pandemic, the accelerating drumbeat of extreme weather events and the accumulations of data and analysis from the scientific community, it’s become an easy call.

A few weeks ago, my wife and I drove across the US east to west. In Wyoming, we hit a pall of wildfire smoke so thick that we couldn’t see the mountains just a few miles away on each side of the road. It went on like that for 1,000 miles.

Then we arrived in California just in time for the latest report from the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which documents in meticulous detail the true scale of the climate problem. Humanity now stands on the brink of not just change, but disaster. And because we can see it coming, just as clear as a black storm on the horizon, our attempts to dodge disaster and create a healthy relationship with our only home will bring huge changes in our habits, laws, institutions and technologies.

All this is visible to us now. Unlike the people living in the years before the first world war, we won’t be sandbagged by catastrophe. The 2020s will not be filled with surprises — except perhaps at the speed and intensity of the changes coming down. With its atmosphere of dread foreboding, our time more resembles the years preceding the second world war, when everyone lived with a sensation of helplessly sliding down a slippery slope and over a cliff.

But historical analogies will take us only so far in understanding our current situation, since we have never before been able to wreck our own means of existence. Scientists coined the name the Anthropocene to signal that this moment in history is unprecedented. There are so many of us, and our technologies are so powerful, and our social systems so heedless of consequences, that our damage to Earth’s biosphere has increased with stunning speed.

Many historians refer to the period since the second world war as the Great Acceleration, and the harmful aspects of the changes we’ve initiated have immense biological and geophysical momentum. We can’t just gather our diplomats and call it off, declare peace with the biosphere.

Although we did do that, in 2015: it’s called the Paris agreement. But that was an agreement to start a process of change, which we now have to live up to if it is to become real. We in effect agreed to decarbonise our civilisation across the board: in energy generation, transport, construction — everything. But since all these activities were run largely by the burning of fossil fuels, this change is a stupendous challenge, equivalent to the mobilisations made in the 20th century to fight world wars.

Whether we can muster that kind of intense effort now is an open question. Not everyone is yet convinced that such an effort is necessary, and there are vested interests — not just private individuals or corporations, but many of the most powerful nations on Earth — deeply committed to continuing to burn fossil fuels.

So the Paris agreement could end up as something like the League of Nations, a nice idea that failed. But if we fail

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Tuesday, August 24, 2021 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If you're going to bring up some dumb old shit that's not even related to the point, I'll just point out that Southern Democrats were confederates and that Abe Lincoln was a Republican. Hillary Clinton spent her life blowing Robert Byrd.

It's not even worth conversing with you anymore on this topic since you won't just admit that there are plenty of shitty people in every party. I don't know what's so hard about that dude. It's very easy to see.

You need to detach your identity from the Democrat Party. Until you do that, you'll never get healthy.

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I've got to repeat myself because you keep misunderstanding. Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, has all the same complaints you have. Until yesterday I had never read the Unabomber Manifesto. The Unabomber does not attach his complaints specifically to the Democratic Party, but there aren't any Trump voters who like what the Unabomber dislikes. Before the Unabomber was jailed, he was just a nut who was killing/maiming "Leftists" with mailed bombs for unknown reasons, but now that I have read the Unabomber Manafesto, it is unsurprising that Trump voters and the Unabomber dislike the same people.

Two paragraphs from the Unabomber Manifesto:

229. The leftist is oriented toward large-scale collectivism. He emphasizes the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. He has a negative attitude toward individualism. He often takes a moralistic tone. He tends to be for gun control, for sex education and other psychologically "enlightened" educational methods, for social planning, for affirmative action, for multiculturalism. He tends to identify with victims. He tends to be against competition and against violence, but he often finds excuses for those leftists who do commit violence. He is fond of using the common catch-phrases of the left, like "racism," "sexism," "homophobia," "capitalism," "imperialism," "neocolonialism," "genocide," "social change," "social justice," "social responsibility." Maybe the best diagnostic trait of the leftist is his tendency to sympathize with the following movements: feminism, gay rights, ethnic rights, disability rights, animal rights, political correctness. Anyone who strongly sympathizes with ALL of these movements is almost certainly a leftist. [36]

230. The more dangerous leftists, that is, those who are most power-hungry, are often characterized by arrogance or by a dogmatic approach to ideology. However, the most dangerous leftists of all may be certain oversocialized types who avoid irritating displays of aggressiveness and refrain from advertising their leftism, but work quietly and unobtrusively to promote collectivist values, "enlightened" psychological techniques for socializing children, dependence of the individual on the system, and so forth. These crypto-leftists (as we may call them) approximate certain bourgeois types as far as practical action is concerned, but differ from them in psychology, ideology and motivation. The ordinary bourgeois tries to bring people under control of the system in order to protect his way of life, or he does so simply because his attitudes are conventional. The crypto-leftist tries to bring people under control of the system because he is a True Believer in a collectivistic ideology. The crypto-leftist is differentiated from the average leftist of the oversocialized type by the fact that his rebellious impulse is weaker and he is more securely socialized.

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Tuesday, August 24, 2021 6:43 PM

Hitler liked dogs.

Hitler was a Nazi.

If you like dogs, you're a Nazi.


Shut up, boy.

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