Some Covid-19 thoughts
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UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I doesn't take a 'better' to crap on the board. It just takes a load of crap. Like yours.
I doesn't, huh?
lol
OK Ted
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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I doesn't, huh?
lol
LOL indeed. You're an idiot who can't field a legitimate argument.
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Quote:So, back to the topic at hand.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And now for the political considerations,
That's murkier because there are more actors with a lot more considerations.
It's like the Iraq War II:
Some were Armageddonists and believed it would lead us one step closer to the Rapture.
Some were following the PNAC/Netenyahu dream of destroying five of Israel's enemies in the ME.
Some were dreaming of all that OIL that had been sequestered in the ground for over a decade bc of sanctions on Iraq
Some wanted to add one more piece to the "surround Russia" puzzle.
At least one person wanted to burnish his wartime record and do what his daddy didn't, which was take Baghdad.
And some were propping up the petrodollar, because Russia and France had written up NON-DOLLAR oil deals with Iraq, and it only took Hans Blix's UNMOVIC finding that Iraq was in substantial compliance with UN mandates to unblock Iraq and ink the contracts.
I would bet that you would be hard-pressed to find ANYONE in the security state or WH who believed that Saddam had a WMD program or had anything to do wth 911.
I personally think that the petrodollar was the prime consideration, since the closer Blix got to wrapping up his investigation the more frantic the GWB administration got. In fact, it was OUR BOMBING that cahsed Hans Blix out of Iraq. So, yeah: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED indeed!
I give this as an example of the complicated factionalism that drives DC.
I have to go and walk the dog, but I'll try to unpack the politics around covid-19 when I get back.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
There is often no SINGLE motivating factor driving DC policy, and quite often the real reasons for doing anything are quite obscure.
Looking at the Democrat policies, WHAT are they?
Lockdowns
Masking
Vaccination
Since we've already agreed that they have NO interest in protecting us "little people", why are they doing what they're doing?
Having turned up the Fear dial to 10, they have an immediate political to interest in being the pols who "solve" the problem, or who can spin it that way.
And since big pharma is such a huge donor to the DNC, I'm sure that they don't mind paying back the favor.
But there's more at work here. If they were interested in being the "saviors" of "the people", they would not now be hyperventilating about the Delta variant, they would be toasting their success and announcing "Freedom Day", like in Britain.
Instead, they're
Obsessed about "cases", not the more meaningful figure of "deaths" and re-imposing restrictions,
Talking about "vaccine passports" (which, given that the vaccines are only 40pct effective at preventing transmission, bringing the transmissibility of this Delta variant down to the original Wuhan strain - totally meaningless from a public health standpoint)
Re-instituting masking, which (IMHO) data is equivocal on whether those disposable blue masks do anything at all. From my personal experience, N95s work bc everyone in the family wore one to go shopping, and none of us ever got sick.
So in some ways, by insisting on vaccinations, they were saying that their initial measures didn't work, and by re-instituting restrictions and masking they're saying the vaccination didn't "work". So by hyperventilating about the Delta variant cases, they're ... well, not exactly admitting defeat (bc IMHO the vaccines did work) but they're keeping the Fear Dial cranked up to 9.
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BTW my health care providers are pretty good indicators of how serious the situation is at any one time. Before the vaccine rollout, they were very paranoid about people wear
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BTW Signy - I'm still interested in your take on the politics of COVID-19.
ETA: oh, we cross-posted!
Anyway, interesting point about the health-care people you've run across.
FWIW what ** I ** think should be happening is N95s for everyone in the US. It'd be certainly far cheaper than pushing vaccines$$ for everyone. I'm guessing the reason WHY it's not being done is because that won't blow the pharmas like the dems* want. As for all those unused vaccine stocks, I'm sure there are people in countries all around the globe who really want the vax. The more people who are vaccinated around the globe, the better the chance that new worse variants won't emerge as the virus mutates its way to being more contagious/ less pathogenic (because the transition is rough).
As for the delta strain blossoming in China, the Sinovac has a pretty low effectiveness, but especially in older people.
BTW, I STILL think that mixing vax technologies - mRNA v adenovirus-vectored - is the way to go, to get a more complete immune response. And I really hope they look into nasal vaccination, for transmissibility purposes.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
I doesn't, huh?
lol
LOL indeed. You're an idiot who can't field a legitimate argument.
Oh. Don't pretend that you're not as much of a grammar nazi as I am.
You're also the one who flung personal attacks here first again, just like you always do. Every time.
You're also the one playing the pussy card when everybody knows that I'm an asshole to everybody who deserves it.
You're so oppressed.
Dumb bitch coward.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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So, instead of riding in on a white charger as the hero of the story, the DNC has opted to keep the Fear Dial at "simmer".
Why would they do that?
I can think of a LOT of reasons, but unlike the Iraq story, I feel that I haven't found the real reason, or the most important reason, yet.
So, in no particular order
The DNC wants a ready-made excuse for the financial and economic shitshow that they know is coming.
They want to stretch this out until the mid-terms so they can fudge mail-in vote counting. Again. (Not, I don't think, a realistic possiblity. People's everyday experience will eventually trump disinformation.)
They want to use the "crisis" - as they use ALL "crises" - to strengthen centralized control on all forms of communication- corporate social media, private messages, emails, and cable/broadcast outlets.
They want to make people dependent on government handouts (VOTE DEM!), so instead of fostering a robust economic recovery, they want to continue to hobble it.
They want to "rally the troops" and/or demonize Trump supporters on this wedge issue.
And that I think is a very strong point. By making this a health and safety issue, they not only have people people disagreeing with each other, they have people FEARING each other, existentially. They've split the population and put up a huge wall between them which will be almost impossible to breach. One side is afraid the other side will kill them, the other side is afraid the first side will (in essence) put them in concentration camps.
RUSSIA!RUSSIA! didn't do it. Ukrainegate didn't. WHITE NATIONALISM didn't. BLM/Antifa did, but only for some. But THIS is a wedge issue of giant proportions.
And look! They've succeeded!
SIX is in nutbag-land, denying facts that people in their everyday experience know, and arguing against people who fundementally agree with him, while others are ALSO in nutbag-land and insisting that everyone get the shot as if their life depended on it. Nobody tolerates middle ground, which is - IMHO- where policy should be.
In the process, with all of the lies the media has told and corporate social media has fostered, the establishment has burned its trust with half the population to a cinder, and now people are ready to believe any damn fool thing that comes along, as long as it doesn't sound like it's coming from "the establishment". So it's easy to portray one side as a bunch of cowards and the other side as a bunch of idiots.
I need to think this thru and see if I missed anything.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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I appreciate your sincerity even though you're wrong Sigs.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Some people deny facts that others, in their everyday experience, know.
Saying "Nobody ever died of Covid-19" doesn't go very far with people who've seen or experienced the virus IRL. All it does is piss people off and make those statements look crazy, stupid, supremely selfish, or all three.
And lying about what others say ... well, that doesn't go very far either. Especially since the internet does a good job of recording who posted what, when.
BTW, I don't appreciate sincerity. Being sincere is easy. Being objective is much harder, and very rare.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Trump estimates 100 million would be dead from COVID-19 without his vaccine efforts. He is far too modest. A billion would have died without Trump's absolutely essential contribution. He is truly and uniquely important for winning against Covid-19.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-estimates-100-million-dead-024200431.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Dick Farrel, Anti-Vax Radio Host and Former Newsmax Anchor, Dies at 65 of COVID Complications
After calling Fauci a "power-tripping lying freak" and urging people not to get vaccinated as recently as June, Farrel changed his tune after contracting the virus himself and entering the hospital roughly three weeks ago.
"Covid Took One Of My Best Friends!" his friend Amy Leigh Hair wrote on Facebook. "He is the reason I took the shot! He texted me and told me to 'Get it!; He told me that this virus is no joke and he said: 'I wish I had gotten it!'"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/dick-farrel-anti-vax-radio-host-and-
former-newsmax-anchor-dies-at-65-of-covid-complications/ar-AAN3FVm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
And another one bites the dust...
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