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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I think COVID-19 is a bioweapon intermediate that got out before its time. My question is who owns it? I'd be really curious what you think of that.

But yeah - your story. I'm OK with you spam posting.

Yeah probably. Anyway, it's the weapon of the fifth international, cult of baphomet sabbatean saudi zionazis, whatever you want to call them. Rationalist commies. People who make bioweapons in China and want to take over the world and reduce world population, who also happen to own our entire media, including (now) FOX.

Spam wall later, when I have time, in its own thread

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Now he's dead...

got it. they killed him

btw, my apologies for calling you THUGR, I thought it was your name, Siggie used it.

I don't have a partisan take here. I think y'all crazy.

Speaking of which, what happened to River6213 and associated sockpuppets?

1KIKI

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 AM

"T" has had a number of handles: T, THUGGR (I think that's how it's spelled), THG, JJ ... and perhaps a few that I've forgotten. Maybe it's your choice what you call him.

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 2:15 AM

yeah THGGR was how I spelt it before, but then I saw siggy had said THUGR.

IDK, I try, but some people are just on autohate before they even see whether or not they disagree with you. I thought anyway that it was a republican, but it's acting like it's a democrat. Now completely meaningless on almost all forums, none of which have any americans on them.

I thank it for the reminder of my greenness tho

SIGNYM

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 4:11 AM

Nevermind

SIGNYM

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 5:18 AM

So, back to the vaccine.

I thought to check the vaccination rates of the various USA states v the "new cases one week average". Two of the states with the lowest vaccination rates are in the top five "new cases" rates, and DC plus one State with the highest vaccination rates are in the lower end of the case rates. It's not a 1:1 inverse correlation and would require maybe some rank analysis, but it does look like the vaccines do lower the transmission.

I should also look at "new deaths, one week average" and see how that shakes out. Been busy tho, haven't had time to give it the scrutiny that it deserves.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Ron Paul: I will shut down the Senate over any COVID bill whatsoever

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski
Rand Paul today: “It’s time for us to resist. They can’t arrest all of us .. No one should follow the CDC.” He then says he will introduce amendments to defund any govt agency that seeks to enforce CDC guidelines, including schools.

9:11 PM · Aug 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1424553962116718595

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Good.

Fuck your vaccine.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 9:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good.

Fuck your vaccine.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

I'm pretty sure this is the only Firefly™ comment I've see so far. I think the entire attitude of everyone in the show would be undeniably clear on this point. Even Simon, who afterall had been through all of this already.

I also don't doubt that the thespians who created this, whedon included, haven't become goosestepping gigacucks in support of the global extermination.

That's the paradox of american theater. it's run by gay jewish outcasts of the borg cube, but is portraying chad heroes who solve problems and survive, because people who write books wrote the stories they're borrowing from.

keep the shiny side up

SIGNYM

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:56 PM

Quote:
The Delta Variant Could End the Chinese Communist Party

By
Gordon Chang

Published 5 days ago

COVID-19 is ravaging China.

The Delta variant is spreading across the country fast, and Beijing has no answer to the new strain other than draconian, totalitarian brute-force measures—and blaming foreigners.

Millions of Chinese residents are now in various forms of lockdown. The recent infections constitute the most widespread coronavirus outbreak since the disease first hit China, sometime in late 2019.

The new flare-up, which quickly slipped beyond the control of the authorities, is undermining core Communist Party propaganda narratives.

Chinese authorities trace the latest series of infections to a flight landing at the Nanjing Lukou International Airport from Russia on July 20. Nine Chinese airport workers tested positive after cleaning the plane.

Since then, the disease has ripped through China, infecting people in almost half of the country’s 33 provinces and provincial-level cities and regions. “Delta has broken through the country’s virus defenses, which are some of the strictest in the world,” notes Bloomberg News.

Delta is now appearing in places with no reported cases for months. Of particular concern for the regime is the cluster in Wuhan, the original epicenter of the disease. The city’s infection-free status has been, as Bloomberg reports, “a source of pride in China.”

Covid has also reached Beijing, the heart of Chinese power. There, travel restrictions are strict. Tourists are now not admitted to the city. Only “essential travelers” are allowed in, but only if they produce negative Covid tests. Government and state enterprise employees may not leave the city. Beijing residents have been told not to travel elsewhere “unless necessary.”

There have been more than 30 outbreaks around China after the initial cases in Wuhan of last year, including a particularly devastating flare-up hitting Guangdong province ports beginning in late May. Draconian measures were seemingly successful in isolating China’s COVID-19 cases, however. The Party, beginning early last year, used its handling of the virus as proof of the superiority of its system over, among others, “Western democracy.”

Totalitarian-style tactics, unfortunately for China’s rulers, have not worked with the hardy Delta variant. The coronavirus, unlike other pathogens, has become more transmissible and more virulent over time. Delta, as a result, is now killing off the triumphalism of the Communist Party.

Therefore, a nationwide spread of the disease is a potentially existential threat to the Party. At the moment, Delta is running through many societies around the world, but China appears to be the only one where the variant could end the ruling group’s tenure.

Therefore, it should be no surprise that Party propagandists went berserk for a few days last month when Bloomberg named the U.S. No. 1 in the world in its “Covid Resilience Ranking.” “What a joke,” People’s Daily, the most authoritative publication in China, remarked.

Denigration of the U.S. cannot solve the Party’s main problem, however. None of China’s five coronavirus vaccines are particularly effective.

Beijing, claiming to have administered more than 1.5 billion doses of its vaccines in China, reports 40% of Chinese citizens are fully vaccinated. China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention says Chinese vaccines “can still have good preventative and protective effects” against the Delta strain, but that seems unlikely as countries turn their backs on the Chinese jabs if they have an alternative. Most of the new cases in Nanjing were vaccinated.

No society will fully recover from this disease until it has an effective and safe vaccine, and Beijing is a long way off from developing one of them, even though its researchers had months of head start in coming up with a good jab.

Until China can administer an effective vaccine across the country, its regime will have no choice but to fall back on propaganda. Narrative control has been key from

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SECOND

Tuesday, August 10, 2021 4:15 PM

From August of 2020: How the Pandemic Defeated America

A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.

How did it come to this? A virus a thousand times smaller than a dust mote has humbled and humiliated the planet’s most powerful nation. America has failed to protect its people, leaving them with illness and financial ruin. It has lost its status as a global leader. It has careened between inaction and ineptitude. The breadth and magnitude of its errors are difficult, in the moment, to truly fathom.

In the first half of 2020, SARS-CoV-2—the new coronavirus behind the disease COVID-19—infected 10 million people around the world and killed about half a million. But few countries have been as severely hit as the United States, which has just 4 percent of the world’s population but a quarter of its confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths. These numbers are estimates. The actual toll, though undoubtedly higher, is unknown, because the richest country in the world still lacks sufficient testing to accurately count its sick citizens.

Despite ample warning, the U.S. squandered every possible opportunity to control the coronavirus. And despite its considerable advantages—immense resources, biomedical might, scientific expertise—it floundered. While countries as different as South Korea, Thailand, Iceland, Slovakia, and Australia acted decisively to bend the curve of infections downward, the U.S. achieved merely a plateau in the spring, which changed to an appalling upward slope in the summer. “The U.S. fundamentally failed in ways that were worse than I ever could have imagined,” Julia Marcus, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at Harvard Medical School, told me.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20200803115929/https://www.theatlantic.com
/magazine/archive/2020/09/coronavirus-american-failure/614191/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two