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Friday, August 6, 2021 6:28 PM

Did you notice that Second said "there are 3,300,000 more of them.

Dummy thinks the 1% is all American.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Friday, August 6, 2021 11:12 PM

The Murder of the U.S. Middle Class Began 40 Years Ago This Week

Reagan’s firing of striking air traffic controllers was the first huge offensive in corporate America’s war on everyone else.

Forty years ago, on August 5, 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired 11,345 striking air traffic controllers and barred them from ever working again for the federal government. By October of that year, the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization, or PATCO, the union that had called the strike, had been decertified and lay in ruins. The careers of most of the individual strikers were similarly dead: While Bill Clinton lifted Reagan’s ban on strikers in 1993, fewer than 10 percent were ever rehired by the Federal Aviation Administration.

PATCO was dominated by Vietnam War-era veterans who’d learned air traffic control in the military and were one of a vanishingly small number of unions to endorse Reagan in 1980, thereby scoring one of the greatest own goals in political history. It’s easy to imagine strikers expressing the same sentiments as a Trump voter who famously lamented, “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

The significance of Reagan’s actions is rarely discussed today in the mainstream, and for understandable reasons: It was the first huge offensive in a war that corporate America has been waging on this country’s middle class ever since. As Warren Buffett — current estimated net worth $101 billion — has said, “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

The stunning victory of the wealthy over everyone else can been measured in several straightforward ways.
During a speech last May at a community college in Cleveland, Joe Biden explained one of them: “From 1948 after the war to 1979, productivity in America grew by 100 percent. We made more things with productivity. You know what the workers’ pay grew? By 100 percent. Since 1979, all of that changed. Productivity has grown four times faster than pay has grown. The basic bargain in this country has been broken.”

More at https://theintercept.com/2021/08/06/middle-class-reagan-patco-strike/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 6, 2021 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by second:
The Murder of the U.S. Middle Class Began 40 Years Ago This Week

And continued under "I feel your pain" Clinton, and every other President and Congress, Democrat and Republican, since then.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Saturday, August 7, 2021 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Murder of the U.S. Middle Class Began 40 Years Ago This Week

And continued under "I feel your pain" Clinton, and every other President and Congress, Democrat and Republican, since then.

I get the feeling that you have some misunderstanding that the Democrats in the Senate can stop the Republicans on Supreme Court and in the Senate from killing unions. It is possible if there were 67 Democratic Senators and 6 Democratic justices, but very unlikely with fewer because there will be Democrats defecting to the Republican side. Senator Joe Manchin, for example. There won't be Republican Senators defecting to the Democrats' side because all Republicans hate unions.

Supreme Court rules against labor in private property case, barring access for organizing
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/23/supreme-court-
backs-farmers-private-property-rights-over-union-access/7465146002
/

The Supreme Court decision gutting public sector unions
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/14/17437832/janus-afscme-supreme-court-unio
n-teacher-police-public-sector


Minimum mandatory paid vacation days passing Congress? Not gonna happen until there are fewer than 34 GOP Senators. Every other country has mandatory paid vacation days, but not the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

Mandatory Maternity Leave passing Congress? Not gonna happen, although other countries have it, but those other countries don't have a Republican Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave#Americas

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 7, 2021 2:03 AM


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I get the feeling that YOU have some misunderstanding that the Democrats* ...
... are hapless Little Nells instead of active participants actively pursuing the same policies in service to the (global) 1% (but especially those from the City of London): Obama* blowing the financialists, spying even more on innocent citizens, starting foreign wars on the cheap through CIA operations ... and so on; Clinton* gutting Glass-Steagall, signing NAFTA, and 'reforming' welfare ... and so on.

That's just a small sampling of how the democrats* aren't just cowering before republicans and frozen into immobility, they're actively pursuing the exact same policies.


And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Saturday, August 7, 2021 5:34 PM

America faces cascading crises. Democrats must act.

Any serious effort to alleviate the real crises facing Americans will depend on progressives corralling Democratic unity around the $3.5 trillion budget resolution that has been put together under the leadership of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). That bill will authorize crucial funding left out of the bipartisan deal — clean energy, research and development, manufacturing aid, housing and schools, child care — as well as sustaining the child tax credit and expanding Medicare coverage.

But to pass the reconciliation bill, Democrats need the votes of all 50 caucus members, and Sinema and Manchin have indicated that they may balk at the $3.5 trillion price tag. (Sinema has even said that she won’t allow any votes to interfere with her vacation plans. If she were to carry out that threat, she could torpedo both bills on her way out the door.) Once again, these so-called centrists are standing in the way of Congress addressing catastrophic climate change, investing in civilian research and development, boosting domestic manufacturing vital to our economy, and alleviating inequality and the pressures on working families. Also at stake are the chances Democrats have to retain their majorities in both the House and Senate in the 2022 elections, for their vote will surely be depressed by a failure to deliver.

It’s not that Sinema or Manchin have a specific, principled stance. They just want less. If there is a final agreement, it will probably be reached just like the infrastructure deal, by lowering the total price tag while sustaining most of the annual level of spending by reducing the number of years the programs are authorized. That will give the programs less time to take effect and make them more vulnerable to repeal.

With record wildfires, a terrible pandemic starting to revive, extreme inequality and an economy that doesn’t work for working families, most Americans increasingly realize that it is time for bold action. Yet, we have a Republican Party consumed by delusions and dedicated to making the administration fail. For all the bipartisan blather, Democrats must get it done on their own — despite having only a one-vote margin in the Senate (counting the vice president breaking a tie) and a three-vote margin in the House. And that requires Sinema, Manchin and others to get with the program.

More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/03/america-faces-casca
ding-crises-democrats-must-act
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 7, 2021 5:59 PM

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Originally posted by second:
America faces cascading crises. Democrats must act.

Any serious effort to alleviate the real crises facing Americans buy American votes will depend on progressives corralling Democratic unity around the $3.5 trillion budget resolution that has been put together under the leadership of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:25 PM


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Any serious effort to alleviate the real crises facing Americans ...
Global warming? Nuclear proliferation? An 80-year Pentagon-sized black hole in the US budget? Dependence on other countries for basic manufacturing? An economy based on gigs and loans, with the great vampire squid financialism sucking the lifeblood out?

Like those real crises?

Don't look to Joe.*


And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:52 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Any serious effort to alleviate the real crises facing Americans ...
Global warming? Nuclear proliferation? An 80-year Pentagon-sized black hole in the US budget? Dependence on other countries for basic manufacturing? An economy based on gigs and loans, with the great vampire squid financialism sucking the lifeblood out?

Like those real crises?

Don't look to Joe.*


And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

The real problem is that a majority of Americans don't want any of this to change. They say they do, but when you get to specifics, there is not a majority behind anything, nor a majority to pay for it. There is not even one person in America who will do a damn thing about it, other than rage ineffectively. For the crudest imaginable example, stealing an idea from the final Firefly episode Heart of Gold, where the villain was killed in cold blood, how many Wall St. financiers were murdered, or attempted murdered, or kidnapped, or even successfully sued by borrowers who were cheated? Zero. There is exactly nobody in America, sane or criminally insane, who has the guts to "regulate" big time cheaters. So, there is no reason to think Biden or Congress or any state governor or state legislature will.

Firefly: "Heart of Gold"
Written by: Brett Matthews
http://www.russellmadden.com/Firefly_transcript_HEART_O.html

PETALINE
Rance, this is Jonah.
(beat)
Jonah, say hi to your daddy.

Burgess smiles like a proud papa. He's actually moved at the sight of his son.

Petaline raises her free hand in which she holds Nandi's favorite gun.
She aims it at Burgess' head. She fires. Rance drops face down to the ground.

PETALINE (cont'd)
Say goodbye to your daddy, Jonah.

Petaline looks up from Burgess' dead body, icy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 7, 2021 9:00 PM

lol

Things aren't going the way you wanted them to after you got what you wanted, huh Second?

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