Some Covid-19 thoughts
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UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
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Originally posted by JO753:
6! I forgot to mention they gave me a 10% off coupon after I got the shot.
10% off what? Your 6-month booster shots you're going to need to take for the rest of your life?
You're already in Illinois man. You can download the app and get a bunch of 10% off coupons by showing your private health information to the barista at Starbucks.
You got got man. At least I'll have the option one day to tell them to stick their free pickup truck up their ass.
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In a series of definitive pieces that earned him the 2021 Pulitzer Prize for explanatory reporting, The Atlantic’s Ed Yong anticipated the course of the coronavirus pandemic, clarified its dangers, and illuminated the American government’s disastrous failure to curb it.
Yong, who has been a staff writer at The Atlantic since 2015, began warning readers about the fragility of America’s pandemic preparedness long before COVID-19 emerged. In 2018, we published his prescient investigation, “When the Next Plague Hits.”
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-the-next-plague-hits
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He correctly predicted an interconnected set of dangers: breakdowns in international communication, chronic underfunding of public health, shortages of supplies and scientific expertise at the federal level, President Donald Trump’s inadequacies as a leader.
Here is some of Yong’s groundbreaking work over the past 16 months:
www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-essential-ed-yong-reading-list/ar-AAKXcW
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JO
Its all thanks to Trump.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7e7p3/far-right-anti-mask-movement-co
ming-for-republican-governors?utm_source=email&utm_medium=editorial&utm_content=news&utm_campaign=210610
Republican governorz being attacked for pandemic respons.
This coud be a self solving situation. If the next pandemic virus haz a much hier fatality rate, GoP voterz and politicianz woud get hit harder than Demz, thus loozing future electionz.
Uv course, it coud go bad and lead to the extinction uv the human rase, but I'm trying to stay upbeat and optimistic.
6! I forgot to mention they gave me a 10% off coupon after I got the shot.
The article compares two Republican governors - DeWine of Ohio and Abbot of Texas. DeWine addressed the pandemic early by instituting a partial lockdown (of large and indoor events) and eventually requiring masks, while Abbot only briefly shut Texas down in March 2020 and didn't do much after that.
So we have a natural experiment to see how these two approaches fared.
According to to DIVOC-91, the total to-date deaths per 100,000 for Ohio is about 165. Meanwhile, in Texas, the total to-date deaths per 100,000 is about 180.
Not a drastic difference, as far as I can tell.
California, my home state, which had a DRASTIC and long-lasting lockdown overmuch of the state and coercive mask mandates, is at 160 to-date deaths per 100,000.
So it seems that total to-date deaths per 100,000 didn't vary much, even tho the timingof the peaks maye have been different from place to place.
The outliers on the high side are New Jersey (300), New York (280), Massachusetts and Rhode Island (260) and Misssissippi and Arizona (245) while the outliers on the low side are Hawaiiand and Vermont (40), Alaska (50), Maine and Oregon (65), Washington and Utah (75).
ALL of the curves, BTW, are still going up, altho at a slower rate.
Seems like there are some lessons to be learned from this, altho I'm not sure what.
Those paper masks barely made a dent. Shutdowns may have flattened the curve but beyond that they didn't affect total deaths much.
So all of those virtuous/evil Democrat shutdowns and maskings and evil/virtuous Republican do-nothings made NO DIFFERENCE. You are both arguing about NOTHING, as far as I can tell.
What I have noticed are a couple of things:
N95s work. I wore one throughout the epidemic every time I went indoors with strangers, and I never got sick despite having three risk factors.
The biggest peaks of new cases and deaths, by far, occurred Nov thru Feb. Some states peaked early, in November, and some lagged and peaked in February, but -withbone exception- they all ocurred in winter. THE VIRUS IS SPREAD INDOORS. We are in a summer lull. Expect to see more new cases and deaths this coming winter.
But the differences in deaths per 100,000, from a low of 40 to a high of 300, MEANS SOMETHING.
What did those low-death states do, or what factors were at play, that caused them to be so low?
So, is anyone willing to set aside all of the pointless partisan wrangling, look at what really happened, and learn some lessons?
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Quote:Case Dismissed. A federal judge has tossed a lawsuit against Houston Methodist over its policy to terminate workers who refuse to get the COVID vaccine, calling it “reprehensible” that plaintiffs compared the requirement to those made under Nazi Germany.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... and they're going to win that lawsuit.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20792874-methodist-lawsuit-1
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/557221-texas-governor-to-sign
-bill-banning-vaccine-passports
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information-technolog
y/texas-governor-bans-state-some-businesses-from-requiring-vaccine-passports.html
P.S. Huston Methodist is not a nursing home or an assisted living facility. Huston Methodist is in violation of Texas state law.
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www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Judge-toss
es-Houston-Methodist-vaccine-mandate-16244629.php
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Deaths
604,852
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Case Dismissed. A federal judge has tossed a lawsuit against Houston Methodist over its policy to terminate workers who refuse to get the COVID vaccine, calling it “reprehensible” that plaintiffs compared the requirement to those made under Nazi Germany.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... and they're going to win that lawsuit.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20792874-methodist-lawsuit-1
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/557221-texas-governor-to-sign
-bill-banning-vaccine-passports
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information-technolog
y/texas-governor-bans-state-some-businesses-from-requiring-vaccine-passports.html
P.S. Huston Methodist is not a nursing home or an assisted living facility. Huston Methodist is in violation of Texas state law.
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www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Judge-toss
es-Houston-Methodist-vaccine-mandate-16244629.php
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
That's what appeals court is for.
Let's take this one all the way to the Supreme Court.
I'm fine with this.
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Originally posted by THG:
Deaths
604,852
Lie.
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So, to get back to real issues here
All viruses are different. Some are airborne. Some are bloodborne. Some are water- and/or food-borne. Some persist on surfaces for long periods of time and can be spread by people touching a surface and then rubbing their eyes. Others are extremely fragile, subject to dryness, sunlight, alcohol etc.
Some are wildly effective at infecting people at low levels of innoculum. Others require a massive exposure to infect the next person.
Measles is SO infectious that health authorities try to locate anyone who just walked thru a common area: like an airport terminal or a line at Disneyland, for two hours afterwards
Covid-19 is clearly airborne. it turns out it's somewhere between the flu/regular cold and measles.
I can understand a month long lockdown while gathering information, amassing resources, and deciding what to do.
But something failed in the information-gathering and policy-making stages. It was way too politicized, with Fauci hiding his links to the American-funded gain if function research being conducted at the Wuhan lab, reversing himself on masking (first he said masks don't help) in order to preserve N95s for emergency services, the CDC bobbling their test rollout when labs all over the nation were ready to test by alternate procedures, and the instant dismissal of HCQ, vitaD, and ivermectin as prophylaxis/ early treatment because 1) Trump mentioned it and 2) it didn't put money in the pockets of big pharma.
Also, the CDC was NOT acting as a central repository of information on infections and small trials of various treatments.
Mistakes were made at all levels but I fault the Federal level the most- not Trump- for acting in a hidebound bureaucratic/corrupt manner of keeping secrets, protecting asses, soloing information, not allowing early flexibility in testing/treatment/information-dissemination, protecting the interests of pandemic bondholders and big pharma, and weaponizing the event against Trump/Republicans/ honest voting and in favor of centralized control and Democrats.
Even now, with over a year's worth of data under our belts, do we know how some states achieved such a low death rate? Or what happened in the states with huge death rates?
Any "lessons learned" for the future?
Or will you still be mired in the Punch n Judy show that is the Dem-Republican tribalism?
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In other words...
New York among the highest death rates. Texas and Florida not that.
Discuss.
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Quote:Hawaii - which instituted lockdowns early - is the lowest.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In other words...
New York among the highest death rates. Texas and Florida not that.
Discuss.
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Shouldn't pick and choose your data
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