The Real Immigrants
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This is what is needed for a people and it's culture to survive: the "passing down"
of it's history. The Elders, or the ones before, passing on what they lived, survived and experienced - even what Brenda and countless others are going through now. The customs, clothing, rituals and language...
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They can pass on the verbal histories and language along with skills like bead work and religion. Teach the ceremonies of coming of age and introducing a baby to the tribe. And maybe how hides were treated to make clothes.
...this is how a people transcend colonial genocide: the study and continued way of living as those that came before, through storytelling and sharing. Before the Spanish Conquistadores came to Boriken (later renamed Rich Port by the European invaders, or Puerto Rico) the Taino Indians had a rich culture that resembled a commune whereby all within the various communities worked for the common good. Each village had a "Cacique" or Chief, who's job it was to see to it that everyone pulled their weight. The women were strong individuals and had the right to "divorce" their husbands by merely setting their belongings outside the domicile.
They too were adversely affected by disease, enslavement and violence as the natives fought back to preserve their culture.
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When the Spanish settlers first came in 1508, since there is no reliable documentation, anthropologists estimate their numbers to have been between 20,000 and 50,000, but maltreatment, disease, flight, and unsuccessful rebellion had diminished their number to 4,000 by 1515; in 1544 a bishop counted only 60, but these too were soon lost.
Sound familiar!? But today their culture lives on:
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Many Taíno implements and techniques were copied directly by the Europeans, including the bohío (straw hut) and the hamaca (hammock), the musical instrument known as the maracas, and the method of making cassava bread. Many Taino words persist in the Puerto Rican vocabulary of today.
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The Taíno culture impressed both the Spanish (who observed it) and modern sociologists. Myths and traditions were perpetuated through ceremonial dances (areytos), drumbeats, oral traditions, and a ceremonial ball game played between opposing teams (of 10 to 30 players per team) with a rubber ball; winning this game was thought to bring a good harvest and strong, healthy children. The Taíno Indians lived in theocratic kingdoms and had a hierarchically arranged chiefs or caciques. The Taínos were divided in three social classes: the naborias (work class), the nitaínos or sub-chiefs and noblemen which includes the bohiques or priests and medicine men and the caciques or chiefs, each village or yucayeque had one.
The above is just a way to pass on some of the knowledge or history about the Tainos. There's so much more, but you get the idea.
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:I was thinking about an entire way of life. From what little I know - mostly from the Navajo - (damn! maybe I should have taken the hospital job at Ganado, but they wanted a 5 year commitment, and when you're in your 20's 5 years is forever) - the life is family/ tribal based on herding/ gathering/ simple farming, with crafts for sale. The many physical requirements for that lifestyle, the particular knowledge needed, require a large commitment of time. It's vital to preserve the language. I just don't know how you can preserve the entire culture, from which the cultural ethic springs.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Maybe if the reservations became more like a refuge and less like a prison?
I don't know how well that would work, but even white Xtian culture could use more "retreats" to restore balance. I myself long for a nice couple of weeks in quiet cloister/ hermitage/ monastery where all I need to do is be quiet and think.
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The Navajo have their own schools where they teach their language as well as English.
I think that is a good start.
Yes Brenda, it is. As is said in the 2016 film Arrival - "Use your weapon."
The premise in that film is that language is the first weapon of choice in a conflict and should be used to bring about progress.
SGG
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It seems like this might be the thread where Brenda discussed Residential Schools, but seems her posts got deleted.
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I've looked for the thread about Residential Schools several times before.
This time is because news reports that an unmarked mass grave of 216 children's bodies were found in/at Kamloops.
Maybe somebody can post a linky.
If somebody knows another thread where Brenda discussed the Residential School System, that would be great to find. I recall reading her posts, but always thought I'd be able to refer back to it.
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Brenda was a person who magically had all her posts disappear, I think before "G" had all his posts disappear.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I've looked for the thread about Residential Schools several times before.
This time is because news reports that an unmarked mass grave of 216 children's bodies were found in/at Kamloops.
Maybe somebody can post a linky.
If somebody knows another thread where Brenda discussed the Residential School System, that would be great to find. I recall reading her posts, but always thought I'd be able to refer back to it.
There is still a thread I posted about the Residential school system. It's not that far back.
I've heard the story on the news and I also spent part of my growing up years in an area where there was a residential school but by that time the middle 70s the kids there were brought into the main school. So, I heard stories of there being graves on that site.
It will be long and painful process for the bodies to be exhumed and it will take DNA, I would think to find families and what bands they might belong to.
I'll see if I can find a link.
And the number is 215 but there may be more.
I can't do the link thing but go back to September 9, 2020 and the title is "Residential Schools"
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems like this might be the thread where Brenda discussed Residential Schools, but seems her posts got deleted.
I think JSF, I have discussed them in a couple of different threads.
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Yes the Native got the bad deal, they were screwed by Colonialism, fucked over but there is more to this long story...
...It's a weird political simplification, its not as if Europeans can suddenly all go back, not all Natives were peaceful, Kamala slams the European explorers who ‘ushered in a wave of devastation for Tribal nations’ and vows the Biden administration will work to address the impact of America’s ‘shameful past’ and its almost like she acts as if European exploration colonsation or travel and colonialism all happened in unison in one great planned attack. All immigrants are now equal, just that some are now more equal than others. isn't it great how America now has a feminist globalist woman that climbed that ladder by hooking up with dudes in California, educated with her sisterhoods in Canada, with ancestry from India and Jamaica in charge of telling the USA how to re-write its own history? both of her parents came to the evil United States right after India's independence, she is not a daughter of a US slave her family coming from Jamaica, the favorite White Christian man target of the Left will always be something that can't fight back in the new marxist identity politics era? ... Now have a weird joker face cackle
Kamala Blasts Explorers To America For Unleashing ‘Wave Of Devastation’
https://www.citizensjournal.us/kamala-blasts-explorers-to-america-for-
unleashing-wave-of-devastation/
Kamala Harris says murders of Native American women and girls must end in Indigenous People's Day address
https://www.econotimes.com/Kamala-Harris-says-murders-of-Native-Americ
an-women-and-girls-must-end-in-Indigenous-Peoples-Day-address-1619184
Kamala Harris Blames 'European Explorers' for 'Perpetrating Violence, Stealing Land, Spreading Disease'
https://cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/kamala-harris-blames-
european-explorers-perpetrating-violence-stealing
VP Kamala Harris has ‘basically come out and said the United States is an illegitimate nation’
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/peta-credlin/vp-kamala-harris-has-b
asically-come-out-and-said-the-united-states-is-an-illegitimate-nation/video/d4cc0cb99c5eddbff4482abc8ec63150
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Alaska Native genomes show selection signals potentially linked to life in the Arctic; researchers identified variants in pathways associated with high-latitude conditions
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/us/news/alaska-native-genomes-sho
w-selection-signals-potentially-linked-to-life-in-the-arctic-researchers-identified-variants-in-pathways-associated-with-high-latitude-conditions/articleshow/133210206.cms
American Indians and Alaska Natives in California face barriers to receiving needed health care, study finds
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2026-08-american-indians-alaska-natives
-california.html
rumored to be developing a live-action Pocahontas movie
Another Disney Classic Getting a Live-Action Movie — Report
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/another-disney-cla
ssic-getting-live-043258021.html
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