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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
JSF, I'm not making anything up. If you read Signy's post (you DID read the post - right?) the decision where to go was made by ATC.

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ATC is Air Traffic Control. Do you think Air Traffic Controllers are volunteers who stop by after their daily shift at McDonald's? They are CONTROLLING AIRSPACE over BELARUS. Operated by the BELARUS GOVERNMENT. When the BELARUS GOVERNMENT says to divert a plane to Minsk so that dissidents can be arrested (instead of closer airports, like Kauna), then the Controllers divert the plane to Minsk unless they no longer have need of their heads being attached to their bodies.

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And when it comes to which story has more eividence - Signy's or yours - well, yours has none, whereas Signy's has quite a bit.



Oh, as long you feel free to make snarky personal comments, let me return the favor. Why not land on Signy for being stupid and posting her post? Why land on me because I reiterated it? Is it because you have the emotional maturity of a 13 year old 'mean girl'? Or are you drunk posting?

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Sigs did not post that everything that the Belarus Government issued as narrative for this political event was true and accurate.
Even though what she did post included comments from MoonofAlabama that the government story was true, I did not believe that Sigs is actually MoonofAlabama. And, in fact, Sigs posted correction of the stated assumption - pointing out the lies.
Sigs did not indicate that she fell for the narrative, without eying it objectively.
Unlike your apparent blanket endorsement of the Fake News narrative, which you indicated that you swallowed hook, link, and sinker.
Sigs did not post: "They didn't divert the plane and bring it down just to arrest the guy."

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JSF: Stop thinking with your feelz. Far from being "unprecedented!" the diversion of aircraft bc of bomb threats is commonplace. RyanAir itself had two previous diversions recently.

And the west has diverted aircraft bc political refugees were suspected to be onboard, most notably

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Also remember, that the plane of Bolivian president Evo Morales was forced to land in Austria in July 2013, after France, Spain, Portugal and Italy had closed their airspace on American orders.

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/ because Edward Snowden was suspected to be onboard. (He wasn't.) Not only was the plane a commercial flight, it was transporting the President of a foreign nation. Where was the outrage then?

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Recalling the crimes of Obama? Have you forgotten what an unmitigated disaster Obamanation was?

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All together, there is a list of about a dozen flight diversions and/ interferences not having anything to do with bomb threats, all perpetrated by the west.

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Were these all at the whims of Obama?

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In any case, the bomb threat emails were real, but not genuine. The question isn't whether there was a bomb threat or whether Belarus' response was legal and by the book

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Incorrect - that is the real question, why divert a plane with a bomb on board to the farther airport of Minsk, instead of the nearer airport of Kaunas? Is THAT the by-the-book response? If a plane is near Chicago, it should be diverted to LAX while it carries a bomb?
In one of your examples, the plane was in RAF airspace - so why not divert the plane which was near Dublin to London, which was also farther away? Are you saying that only reasonable nations divert planes to a nearby airport, and only Belarus habitually diverts to a farther airport where arresting agents are waiting?

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but who made the threat? It was awfully convenient for Belarus.

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Convenient, my ass.
Like saying Covid was created and Lockdowns were enacted to be convenient for Biden to steal the election.

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The bomb threat was real. The first arrived before RyanAir was over Belarus.

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So there have been, if the officials are to be believed, two bomb threat emails. The first one at 12:25 local time (9:25 UTC) arrived five minutes before the Ryanair flight at 12:30 (9:30 UTC) entered Belorussian airspace. That would have left enough time to contact the air traffic controller who then warned the plane. The email in the screenshot received at would have been the second one.

The Ryanair pilot was warned of the bomb threat at 9:30 utc but declared Mayday only at 9:47 utc. It took him several more minutes to change the course. The sender of the emails might have watched the plane's course on Flight Aware and prepared and sent the second email when the plane seemed not to react to the first one.

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But even MoA questions the threat's credibility.

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The content of the email is not convincing as a threat. The demand for a ceasefire in Gaza is nonsense as one was already in place since May 21. The mentioning of the Delphi Economic Forum in Greece is of interest. Roman Protasevich had taken part in it and was on his way back to Vilnius. Why was that explicitly mentioned? If Belarus used the email as a trick to catch Protasevich why mention the Delphi Forum in the threat email?

The last sentence of the email is of high interest because it decided where the plan would land: "If you don’t meet our demands the bomb will explode on May 23 over Vilnius."

In previous incidents of bombs on civil aircraft these were either set off by a timer or by a barometer (pressure = height over ground). That the extortionist would name a specific location for the bomb explosion can only mean that the bomb would be set off by a GPS device. This explains why the pilots decided to diverted to Minsk instead of finishing the much shorter leg to Vilnius.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The bomb threat was real. The first arrived before RyanAir was over Belarus.

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So there have been, if the officials are to be believed, two bomb threat emails. The first one at 12:25 local time (9:25 UTC) arrived five minutes before the Ryanair flight at 12:30 (9:30 UTC) entered Belorussian airspace. That would have left enough time to contact the air traffic controller who then warned the plane. The email in the screenshot received at would have been the second one.

The Ryanair pilot was warned of the bomb threat at 9:30 utc but declared Mayday only at 9:47 utc. It took him several more minutes to change the course. The sender of the emails might have watched the plane's course on Flight Aware and prepared and sent the second email when the plane seemed not to react to the first one.

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But even MoA questions the threat's credibility.

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The content of the email is not convincing as a threat. The demand for a ceasefire in Gaza is nonsense as one was already in place since May 21. The mentioning of the Delphi Economic Forum in Greece is of interest. Roman Protasevich had taken part in it and was on his way back to Vilnius. Why was that explicitly mentioned? If Belarus used the email as a trick to catch Protasevich why mention the Delphi Forum in the threat email?

The last sentence of the email is of high interest because it decided where the plan would land: "If you don’t meet our demands the bomb will explode on May 23 over Vilnius."

In previous incidents of bombs on civil aircraft these were either set off by a timer or by a barometer (pressure = height over ground). That the extortionist would name a specific location for the bomb explosion can only mean that the bomb would be set off by a GPS device. This explains why the pilots decided to diverted to Minsk instead of finishing the much shorter leg to Vilnius.

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MoA indicates that the only kind of bomb trigger could have been GPS. Technically incorrect. It could have been local trigger, a person on the ground at Vilnius waiting for the plane to get within range of the trigger signal. But the results and reactions would be the same.

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SIGNYM:
JSF: Stop thinking with your feelz. Far from being "unprecedented!" the diversion of aircraft bc of bomb threats is commonplace. RyanAir itself had two previous diversions recently.

And the west has diverted aircraft bc political refugees were suspected to be onboard, most notably

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Also remember, that the plane of Bolivian president Evo Morales was forced to land in Austria in July 2013, after France, Spain, Portugal and Italy had closed their airspace on American orders.

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/ because Edward Snowden was suspected to be onboard. (He wasn't.) Not only was the plane a commercial flight, it was transporting the President of a foreign nation. Where was the outrage then?

JSF: Recalling the crimes of Obama? Have you forgotten what an unmitigated disaster Obamanation was?

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No, not forgetting.

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SIGNY: All together, there is a list of about a dozen flight diversions and/ interferences not having anything to do with bomb threats, all perpetrated by the west.

JSF: Were these all at the whims of Obama?

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No, I'm looking for that list again, but it goes back decades, thru Dem and GOP Presidents.

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SIGNY: In any case, the bomb threat emails were real, but not genuine. The question isn't whether there was a bomb threat or whether Belarus' response was legal and by the book

JSF: Incorrect - that is the real question, why divert a plane with a bomb on board to the farther airport of Minsk, instead of the nearer airport of Kaunas? Is THAT the by-the-book response? If a plane is near Chicago, it should be diverted to LAX while it carries a bomb?

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oh, c'mon JSF, even you have to admit that's an exaggerated example. The distance between Kaunas and Minsk is all of 163 flying miles. 15 minutes at 600 mph, and quite possibly the Kaunas airport doesn't have a bomb squad, emergency services etc that would be in Minsk. Stop getting stuck on irrelevant details.

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JSF: In one of your examples, the plane was in RAF airspace - so why not divert the plane which was near Dublin to London, which was also farther away? Are you saying that only reasonable nations divert planes to a nearby airport, and only Belarus habitually diverts to a farther airport where arresting agents are waiting?

SIGNY... but who made the threat? It was awfully convenient for Belarus.

JSF: Convenient, my ass.
Like saying Covid was created and Lockdowns were enacted to be convenient for Biden to steal the election.

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I have no idea how to disentangle that sentence. R U being sarcastic?

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I believe the airplane is registered in Poland, now Poland has begun its own pre-investigation
We have several media sources which claim to have the real transcripts

Other media also claims some Transcripts are false or edited

Ryanair Head: Transcript Of Talks Provided By Belarusian Authorities Isn't True
https://charter97.org/en/news/2021/5/28/423937/

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The Minsk airport control service refused to contact Ryanair, falsely stating that the company did not answer the phone," - O'Leary noted in his letter.

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'You Have Bomb On Board': Belarusian Transcript Of Ryanair Pilots Raises More Questions Than It Answers
https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-ryanair-patrasevich-transcript-questio
ns-bomb-lukashenka/31275279.html

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Just after 12:30 p.m. local time on May 23, flying at an altitude of around 12,000 meters, Ryanair's Vilnius-bound flight FR4978 from Athens crossed into Belarusian airspace and made contact with air traffic controllers in the capital, Minsk.

"For your information, we have information from special services that you have bomb on board and it can be activated over Vilnius," the Minsk controller says.

"Ok," the pilot responds, "could you repeat the message?"

"I say again we have information from special services that you have bomb on board," the controller responds. "That bomb can be activated over Vilnius."

Nearly 16 minutes later, the pilot informs the Minsk controllers: "We are declaring an emergency MAYDAY, MAYDAY, MAYDAY… Our intentions would be to divert to Minsk airport."

The conversation, detailed in an uncorroborated and incomplete transcript released by Belarusian officials, is a key piece of evidence in the evolving mystery surrounding Flight 4978, whose journey included an escort by a Belarusian Air Force fighter jet.

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Ryanair Pilots Questioned Request to Land, Transcript Released by Belarus Shows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ryanair-pilots-questioned-request-to-land
-transcript-released-by-belarus-shows-11621968263

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The back-and-forth between the cockpit and ground control suggests pilots sought clarity on diverting to Minsk

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The whole event is very strange and there is a lot of political spin happening now

This event and the reality of it should be fully investigated

Even though there has been no Loss of Life and no actual 'Crash' I believe it might be wise for authority in Lithuania, Greece, the FBI and Polish Police to have an actual look at the Blackbox and Recordings and listen and see as to what happened between the Belarus Ground and the Pilots. I believe because the plan was manufactured by Boeing guys from the NTSB, the FAA and Boeing would be given access to the Flight recorder. This event has a big international element to it but I have read some transport history books before and watched some flight documentary so I believe perhaps the FAA or FBI may take part in the investigation being conducted by the NTSB. Belarus might be outside Europe and politically closer to Russia, maybe in some old Soviet Baltic travel zone but this aircraft traveled between 2 EU countries, I believe also Europe has some kind of Euro Control flight management transport system or EU Sky or Single European Sky Authority. I believe the FBI is now involved in an investigation into the plane 'hijack' and it would be normal for the FBI to get involved with investigations of terror threats or bomb threats.

Can Biden Do Anything About Belarus?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/28/can-biden-do-anything-about-belar
us/

Biden mulls sanctions as Belarus blogger’s family beg for help
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/first-thing-belarus-ra
man-pratasevich-family

President Joe Biden said U.S. sanctions against Belarus are in play, but declined to offer more details.
Biden made the remark to reporters as he was leaving the White House en route to his home state of Delaware amid international outrage over Belarus' forcing

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This is a very unusual flight path

Flight from Belarus to Barcelona Spain never happened the aircraft keeps going around in circles in the sky
rumors online say the Polish told them they did not have permission to enter French Airspace
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Minsk to Barcelona is holding
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1397520537929371648
' Reason is currently unknown. '

At this point, Belarus’ state airline Belavia is effectively cut off from Western Europe. Flights to Turkey continue, but will be routed via Russia now, adding time to each flight.
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1398386174897557506
Flights to destinations to the east remain unaffected

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JSF

One nice thing about the OP is that it links a lot of initial news reports. I did a thorough search of the 'news' on the topic, and it's clear that google's search of initial reporting has been scrubbed. There's precious little to be had.

While nearly all foreign NON-American/ British/ Australian (western) media made mostly un-editorialized mention of a bomb threat "A Ryanair plane flying from Athens to Vilnius had to make an emergency landing in Minsk on Sunday over a bomb threat, which later turned out to be misinformation. To escort the plane, Belarus deployed a fighter jet." (UrduNews) ...



... Yahoo reported this: https://news.yahoo.com/lithuania-investigating-belarus-potential-terro
rism-043507348.html "The forced diversion of a passenger flight, evidently on the pretense of a fake bomb threat ..."

... Florida News Times made no mention of a bomb threat at all https://floridanewstimes.com/the-countdown-belarus-flight-biden-prepar
es-for-hurricane-season-nyc-mayoral-race/269180/

... along with (for example) NewsNation that also made no mention of a bomb threat at all https://newsnationusa.com/news/entertainment/streaming-media/hear-from
-passenger-aboard-plane-diverted-to-belarus-cnn-video/

... while the WaPo discounts that there was a bomb threat at all " a purported bomb threat" https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/belarus-ryanair-roman-prot
asevich-journalist/2021/05/23/01b2e28a-bbc2-11eb-922a-c40c9774bc48_story.html

... the EU https://www.euractiv.com/section/transport/news/unfriendly-skies/ reported false information "A number of Russian nationals are also reportedly removed from the plane" along with tons of insinuation "(given the close links between Belarus’s Lukashenko regime and Putin’s Russia, there are suspicions the passengers were part of the operation against Protasevich)."

... Australia called it a hijacking and Australia's Foreign Minister Payne specifically accused (without evidence, of course) ATC of being involved or actually lying about a bomb threat https://australianaviation.com.au/2021/05/marise-payne-says-ryanair-hi
jack-by-mig-29-put-lives-at-risk/ and https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-24/plane-carrying-opposition-figur
e-diverted-to-belarus/100159524 "Reports at the weekend even suggested a ruse of a false bomb threat on board was used by air traffic control ... 'We are also concerned by reports that the Belarusian Government allegedly grounded the flight on the false pretense of a security threat' said Minister Payne."

... and MSN opines (without evidence again) about the motivations for diverting the flight and despite Ryanair's characterization of Minsk as being the closest airport. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-belarus-stop-a-ryanair-flight
-to-detain-activist-raman-pratasevich/ar-AAKiKkl "Ryanair says that its crew was 'notified by Belarus ATC [air traffic control] of a potential security threat on board and were instructed to divert to the nearest airport, Minsk.'"



BTW, the bomb threat came from a Swiss anonymous email service ProtonMail, also not reported in western media. You can google it yourself.



Now, one may speculate about the bomb threat, but to be NEWS there really needs to be factual evidence. And western media does a great job of ignoring the need for evidence especially when it questioned the existence of a bomb threat (that they knew for a fact existed), about the origins of the bomb threat, or about the motivations of a bomb threat, when it's not omitting

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I believe the airplane is registered in Poland, now Poland has begun its own pre-investigation
We have several media sources which claim to have the real transcripts

Other media also claims some Transcripts are false or edited

Ryanair Head: Transcript Of Talks Provided By Belarusian Authorities Isn't True
https://charter97.org/en/news/2021/5/28/423937/

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The Minsk airport control service refused to contact Ryanair, falsely stating that the company did not answer the phone," - O'Leary noted in his letter.

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'You Have Bomb On Board': Belarusian Transcript Of Ryanair Pilots Raises More Questions Than It Answers
https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-ryanair-patrasevich-transcript-questio
ns-bomb-lukashenka/31275279.html

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Just after 12:30 p.m. local time on May 23, flying at an altitude of around 12,000 meters, Ryanair's Vilnius-bound flight FR4978 from Athens crossed into Belarusian airspace and made contact with air traffic controllers in the capital, Minsk.

"For your information, we have information from special services that you have bomb on board and it can be activated over Vilnius," the Minsk controller says.

"Ok," the pilot responds, "could you repeat the message?"

"I say again we have information from special services that you have bomb on board," the controller responds. "That bomb can be activated over Vilnius."

Nearly 16 minutes later, the pilot informs the Minsk controllers: "We are declaring an emergency MAYDAY, MAYDAY, MAYDAY… Our intentions would be to divert to Minsk airport."

The conversation, detailed in an uncorroborated and incomplete transcript released by Belarusian officials, is a key piece of evidence in the evolving mystery surrounding Flight 4978, whose journey included an escort by a Belarusian Air Force fighter jet.

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Ryanair Pilots Questioned Request to Land, Transcript Released by Belarus Shows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ryanair-pilots-questioned-request-to-land
-transcript-released-by-belarus-shows-11621968263

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The back-and-forth between the cockpit and ground control suggests pilots sought clarity on diverting to Minsk

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The whole event is very strange and there is a lot of political spin happening now

This event and the reality of it should be fully investigated

Even though there has been no Loss of Life and no actual 'Crash' I believe it might be wise for authority in Lithuania, Greece, the FBI and Polish Police to have an actual look at the Blackbox and Recordings and listen and see as to what happened between the Belarus Ground and the Pilots. I believe because the plan was manufactured by Boeing guys from the NTSB, the FAA and Boeing would be given access to the Flight recorder. This event has a big international element to it but I have read some transport history books before and watched some flight documentary so I believe perhaps the FAA or FBI may take part in the investigation being conducted by the NTSB. Belarus might be outside Europe and politically closer to Russia, maybe in some old Soviet Baltic travel zone but this aircraft traveled between 2 EU countries, I believe also Europe has some kind of Euro Control flight management transport system or EU Sky or Single European Sky Authority. I believe the FBI is now involved in an investigation into the plane 'hijack' and it would be normal for the FBI to get involved with investigations of terror threats or bomb threats.

Can Biden Do Anything About Belarus?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/28/can-biden-do-anything-about-belar
us/

Biden mulls sanctions as Belarus blogger’s family beg for help
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/first-thing-belarus-ra
man-pratasevich-family

President Joe Biden said U.S. sanctions against Belarus are in play, but declined to offer more details.
Biden made the remark to reporters as he was leaving the White House en route to his home state of Delaware amid inte

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