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Friday, January 29, 2021 8:54 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's exactly how it went down.


God, you're dumb.





^ Says the idiot.


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Friday, January 29, 2021 2:39 PM

New COVID-19 Variant Spreading In The USA!

https://www.brighteon.com/699d5a8b-2461-43fb-8249-9d6c9e129776

...more conspiracy talk
John Kerry, Davos, and the ‘Great Reset’
???
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/john-kerry-davos-and-the-great-r
eset
/


Pakistani Supreme Court Frees Terrorist Who Beheaded Daniel Pearl

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hD6Bd9eNO9u9/

Google threatens to shut down search in Australia

https://rumble.com/vd4nm3-google-threatens-to-shut-down-search-in-aust
ralia.html


GameStop and the movements of Billions into some dudes pocket?


A rigged fakeass stock market
substantial losses coming for people who bought in and stay in too long.



Janet Yellen Received $810K In Speaking Fees From Hedge Fund Embroiled In GameStop Saga
https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/28/janet-yellen-gamestop-citadel/

GameStop: Cruz, Ocasio-Cortez blast Robinhood over trade freeze
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/gamestop-cruz-ocasio-cortez-blast-robi
nhood-over-trade-freeze.html

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Friday, January 29, 2021 3:35 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

But if you cherry pick your numbers hard enough, and throw out at least 7/8 of the data, I'm sure you'd have a conclusion that matches the article!

Every bit of news treats us like we're simpletons, unable to understand a complicated and nuanced reality. And that we need to have our thoughts guided with simple stories and real-sounding factoids (without evidence) told to us by sincere-faced news-actors and instant experts and tptb mouthpieces.

THO I GUARANTEE ALL THIS THEATER TO GUIDE US FOR OUR OWN GOOD. I'M SURE OF IT. /sarcasm

And so reading a simple news article or watching a news show is like writing a fucking PhD dissertation, where I have to track down every original research paper or project report or 'source' background and often recalculate the numbers just to try to figure out what the fuck is ** REALLY ** going on in any particular instance.

What an obvious crock they're shoveling at us, from all directions.

1kiki, the news story was repeating the claims made by Transparency International. You should tell Transparency International that their researchers are corrupt and dishonest and are liars deserving a very low score on the Corruption Index.
https://www.transparency.org/en/press/2020-corruption-perceptions-inde
x-reveals-widespread-corruption-is-weakening-covid-19-response-threatening-global-recovery


1kiki, go tell Transparency International that you are smarter than they are and you distrust them and want them shut down. 1kiki, tell the people measuring corruption that they, too, are corrupt: https://www.transparency.org/en/end-corruption

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 29, 2021 3:37 PM

Here’s what we know about American politics: The Republican Party is stuck, probably irreversibly, in a doom loop of bizarro. If the Trump-incited Capitol insurrection didn’t snap the party back to sanity — and it didn’t — nothing will.

What isn’t clear yet is who, exactly, will end up facing doom. Will it be the G.O.P. as a significant political force? Or will it be America as we know it? Unfortunately, we don’t know the answer. It depends a lot on how successful Republicans will be in suppressing votes.

About the bizarro: Even I had some lingering hope that the Republican establishment might try to end Trumpism. But such hopes died this week.

On Tuesday Mitch McConnell, the Senate minority leader, who has said that Donald Trump’s role in fomenting the insurrection was impeachable, voted for a measure that would have declared a Trump trial unconstitutional because he’s no longer in office. (Most constitutional scholars disagree.)

On Thursday Kevin McCarthy, the House minority leader — who still hasn’t conceded that Joe Biden legitimately won the presidency, but did declare that Trump “bears responsibility” for the attack on Congress — visited Mar-a-Lago, presumably to make amends.

In other words, the G.O.P.’s national leadership, after briefly flirting with sense, has surrendered to the fantasies of the fringe. Cowardice rules.

And the fringe is consolidating its hold at the state level. The Arizona state party censured the Republican governor for the sin of belatedly trying to contain the coronavirus. The Texas G.O.P. has adopted the slogan “We are the storm,” which is associated with QAnon, although the party denies it intended any link. Oregon Republicans have endorsed the completely baseless claim, contradicted by the rioters themselves, that the attack on the Capitol was a left-wing false flag operation.

How did this happen to what was once the party of Dwight Eisenhower? Political scientists argue that traditional forces of moderation have been weakened by factors like the nationalization of politics and the rise of partisan media, notably Fox News.

This opens the door to a process of self-reinforcing extremism (something, by the way, that I’ve seen happen in a minor fashion within some academic subfields). As hard-liners gain power within a group, they drive out moderates; what remains of the group is even more extreme, which drives out even more moderates; and so on. A party starts out complaining that taxes are too high; after a while it begins claiming that climate change is a giant hoax; it ends up believing that all Democrats are Satanist pedophiles.

This process of radicalization began long before Donald Trump; it goes back at least to Newt Gingrich’s takeover of Congress in 1994. But Trump’s reign of corruption and lies, followed by his refusal to concede and his attempt to overturn the election results, brought it to a head. And the cowardice of the Republican establishment has sealed the deal. One of America’s two major political parties has parted ways with facts, logic and democracy, and it’s not coming back.

What happens next? You might think that a party that goes off the deep end morally and intellectually would also find itself going off the deep end politically. And that has in fact happened in some states. Those fantasist Oregon Republicans, who have been shut out of power since 2013, seem to be going the way of their counterparts in California, a once-mighty party reduced to impotence in the face of a Democratic supermajority.

But it’s not at all clear that this will happen at a national level. True, as Republicans have become more extreme they have lost broad support; the G.O.P. has won the popular vote for president only once since 1988, and 2004 was an outlier influenced by the lingering rally-around-the-flag effects of 9/11.

Given the unrepresentative nature of our electoral system, however, Republicans can achieve power even while losing the popular vote. A majority of voters rejected Trump in 2016, but he became president anyway, and he came fairl

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Friday, January 29, 2021 10:03 PM


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1kiki, the news story was repeating the claims made by Transparency International.
Yes, god forbid the news should act as anything but transcribers.

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Friday, January 29, 2021 10:29 PM

News sites should lose their 230 shield along with Facebook and Google.

If 230 doesn't cover them it should be expanded to, that way it can be stripped and they can be sued.

Getting pretty tired of living in a world where we're fed two completely different fake realities.


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Friday, January 29, 2021 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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1kiki, the news story was repeating the claims made by Transparency International.
Yes, god forbid the news should act as anything but transcribers.

I saw how you "analyzed" the story. You came to your predetermined conclusion very quickly. Maybe you should work for the Christian Science Monitor as a fact checker before their editors can place a reporter's story on the internet. 1kiki becomes the final buffer preventing "erroneous" stories written by Christian Scientists from being spread far and wide.

FACT CHECK: 1kiki sees no correlation between governments run by liars, crooks and thieves and governments doing a poor job serving their citizens.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 29, 2021 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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1kiki, the news story was repeating the claims made by Transparency International.
Yes, god forbid the news should act as anything but transcribers.

I saw how you "analyzed" the story. You came to your predetermined conclusion very quickly. Maybe you should work for the Christian Science Monitor as a fact checker before their editors can place a reporter's story on the internet. 1kiki becomes the final buffer preventing "erroneous" stories written by Christian Scientists from being spread far and wide.

FACT CHECK: 1kiki sees no correlation between governments run by liars, crooks and thieves and governments doing a poor job serving their citizens.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Why bother spending a lot of time analyzing every story to come from a source if you already know the source spends all day every day peddling bullshit for ad revenue?


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Friday, January 29, 2021 11:22 PM

And seriously. It is unbelievably racist to keep pushing this narrative that requiring a voter ID suppresses black people.

Just how helpless do you believe somebody with a different color skin than yours to be?


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 3:33 AM



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You came to your predetermined conclusion very quickly.
No, actually it took me some time to dig the data out, put it together, and examine it. Then I let the it speak to me. And if I had less to do irl, I would have put it on a graph and done a linear regression analysis with a correlation coefficient to see how well the two sets of data correlated with each other. (Other people in a professional setting might have access to professional statistical software packages.)

But even with the time I spent, I uncovered SERIOUS problems with the data itself.

6 !!! of the top 10 countries for per-capita COVID-19 deaths don't support the premise: corruption = poor medical care = deaths. And that's a BIG data problem, because high numbers are what drive correlations (as opposed to low numbers which barely budge the linear regression, no matter how many of those low numbers you have).

If you don't agree with that observation, which countries do you dispute, listed by name? AND WHY?


Other than that I can see that there are too many potential confounding factors to support the simplistic premise.

One is the definition of "corruption" and the list it generates. If the list is jimmied to give high marks to capitalism and low marks to socialism, then countries that really do - sociallistically - focus on citizen well-being over profit - will generate non-conforming data; ie high 'corruption' but low deaths. So maybe we should throw out that data?

Another is sheer poverty. You don't have to be corrupt to be poor. A lack of natural resources, a recent history of being a colony, lack of genuine investment (parasitic investment doesn't count), and a serious burden of existing disease - HIV, malaria, and TB for example - that suppresses economic development - could make even testing-and-counting COVID-19 cases and deaths economically unreachable. So maybe we should throw out the data from poor countries too?

And so on.

And by the time you throw out 7/8 of the data because it doesn't fit your premise, you might be able to support the conclusion.

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