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The FBI received information that Trump partisans were calling to "storm" government offices in every state on Jan. 20, when Biden will be sworn into office. The Capitol Police warned House Democrats in a briefing Monday night of a plot to kill Democratic representatives so Republicans could take control of Congress.
If you think that these violent elements of Trump’s base will leave with him, you haven’t been paying attention.
This is why the siege of the Capitol by Trump supporters to prevent the congressional certification of President-elect Joe Biden's electoral victory cannot be dismissed as a one-off. These events are just a show of coming attractions.
Republicans supported the attack on the Capitol. A Reuters poll released Friday found that 22 percent of Republicans approved. A Marist poll found that 18 percent of Republicans "support the actions of the Trump supporters who broke into the U.S. Capitol."
If these polls are accurate, that means 1 in 5 Republicans approve of embracing violence to keep political power. If this extremist wing of the GOP goes unchecked, it is likely to spread as Republicans become angrier with election losses and resort to attempting to acquire power by using force.
More at https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/gop-was-sowing-seeds-fascism-violence-lo
ng-trump-n1253970
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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“What is spreading today is repressive kleptocracy, led by rulers motivated by greed rather than by the deranged idealism of Hitler or Stalin or Mao. Such rulers rely less on terror and more on rule twisting, the manipulation of information, and the co-option of elites. Their goal is self-enrichment; the corrosion of the rule of law is the necessary means. As a shrewd local observer explained to me on a visit to Hungary in early 2016, “The main benefit of controlling a modern bureaucratic state is not the power to persecute the innocent. It is the power to protect the guilty.”
No president in history has burned more public money to sustain his personal lifestyle than Donald Trump. Three-quarters of the way through his first year in office, President Trump was on track to spend more on travel in one year of his presidency than Barack Obama in eight—even though Trump only rarely ventured west of the Mississippi or across any ocean.”
- David Frum
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
If you meet the requirements ( slightly to the right, middle and liberal ) and you have an interest in starting a discussion say so.
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In the End, the Trump Presidency Was a Failure on Its Own Terms
http://www.honestgraft.com/2021/01/in-end-trump-presidency-was-failure
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. . . what if we tried for a moment to give Trump the benefit of the doubt by attempting to evaluate his presidency as much as possible on its own terms? Did Trump succeed in achieving what he wanted to do, even if it wasn't what others wanted him to do?
One approach to answering this question involves returning to the 2016 campaign and comparing the positions of Trump the candidate to the record of Trump the president. Trump did deliver on some of his promises once in office: he cut taxes and regulations, he strengthened barriers to immigration and travel from overseas, and he appointed a large number of conservatives to the federal judiciary. But his signature proposals were never enacted, including the repeal and replacement of the Affordable Care Act, the significant renegotiation of international trade agreements, a major federal infrastructure investment, and a wall spanning the nation's southern border funded by the Mexican government.
There was also a more general set of failures that didn't concern specific policies as much as a basic approach to the job. While a candidate in 2016, Trump presented himself as an energetic deal-maker who would fight harder than his predecessors in both parties for the interests of the American people. But he turned out to be much less invested in his official responsibilities than in spending his daily "executive time" watching cable television and his weekends playing golf; he was sufficiently self-conscious about this lack of work ethic to inelegantly deny it in public ("President Trump will work from early in the morning until late in the evening. He will make many calls and have many meetings") but not to actually alter his behavior.
Trump's pre-election suggestions that he would attract an all-star team of executive personnel to join the government similarly stood in sharp contrast to the actual staff of his administration, which was by some distance the least qualified and talented group of subordinates assembled by any modern president of either party. (And many key positions were filled by acting appointees or were simply left vacant for months and even years.)
With Trump's evident lack of interest in substantive details, his instinct for combativeness (a universally-acknowledged personal quality which many of his supporters admired), and his apparent difficulties in grasping the motivations of others, the promised knack for deal-making never materialized either. Both major legislative achievements of his presidency—the 2017 tax cut bill and the two rounds of COVID relief in 2020—were, by all accounts, developed and enacted with minimal direct involvement by the president. When Trump did insert himself in legislative negotiations in late 2018 and early 2019 by demanding that Congress approve funding for his border wall, the result was a prolonged government shutdown and subsequent retreat after Senate Republicans abandoned their support for his position.
Of course, politicians occasionally have been known to make promises on the campaign trail that they do not expect to keep if elected. Maybe it's inaccurate to treat public commitments in the midst of a tough electoral race as evidence of a president's true goals. So, based on the actions of the Trump administration once it began, what can we conclude about what it wanted to do and whether it succeeded in doing it?
The primary animating force of the Trump presidency, the juice that fueled the president and his subordinates every day, was the waging of a permanent political war against an array of perceived enemies. The Democratic Party was one such enemy—this was by far the most thoroughly partisan presidency in memory—but hardly the only one. The news media, career bureaucrats, intellectuals and educators, the entertainment industry, and any insufficiently supportive Republican were all dependable targe
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And so the piece of shit leaves in disgrace.
Let the record show that Trump leaves office as the least popular president of all time.
Melania is likewise the least liked first lady in all of history. May they both be as miserable as they've made the world.
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Quote:Where I am from, Texas, Trump is popular enough to be reelected and only a quarter of Republicans think he lost. According to them, Biden stole the election and is NOT the President.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
And so the piece of shit leaves in disgrace.
Let the record show that Trump leaves office as the least popular president of all time.
Melania is likewise the least liked first lady in all of history. May they both be as miserable as they've made the world.
Where your enemies are at their weakest, that is where you attack. Democrats ought to attack Trump's tax returns and his lying about the election and his part in encouraging violence against Democrats during a riot. If the Democrats decide to "let the nation heal" or whatever the fancy catchphrase is for withdrawing from battle and craving peace, Trump or somebody worse will be back in 2022, kicking the Democrats to death in Texas. Fight the GOP bravely now or it will return stronger, dumber and more vicious than ever, maybe with a few Federal buildings blown up and political assassinations along their way back into complete power over the nation rather than the 50/50 split America has at this second.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second: But it doesn't make sense...
For them, nothing haz to make sens.
To me, thats the main take away for the entire Republican party. Trump just took it to another level.
I hav several 'conservativ' frendz. Every wun uv them will deny being Republicanz, claiming they only vote for them to oppoze the Democrats. They all deny watching Fox or getting their info from any rite wing sours you name.
If confronted by an obvious undeniable lie or lojikl contradiction by Trump or any GoP, they rezort to wutaboutizm or chanje the subject or stop tokking.
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Originally posted by second:
In the End, the Trump Presidency Was a Failure on Its Own Terms
http://www.honestgraft.com/2021/01/in-end-trump-presidency-was-failure
-on.html
Agreed
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