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Monday, January 4, 2021 6:04 AM

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I seem to remember a time when our government was keeping us safe from WMDs.
You CLEARLY equate WMDs with COVID-19 as government fabrications! But hey, live in denial for all I care!

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Monday, January 4, 2021 7:42 AM


So, I want to take the time to deconstruct this article written by a COVID-19 denier and propagandist, to highlight all the various lies put forth.

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It Is Long Past Time for the CDC and NCHS to Clean Up the COVID-19 Death Counts
Stacey Lennox

Please explain how, then!
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Some of us have been questioning the COVID-19 death counts reported by the CDC through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) for some time. Of course, CNN and the corporate media love the
likely is his first fudge
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likely elevated counts to push their narrative.
Then he attributes a position to the CDC it doesn't hold by claiming it calls for lockdowns as part of some nefarious plot. These are the limits of the CDC's authority: https://www.cdc.gov/regulations/index.html
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Lockdown Inc. loves them to justify their destruction of lives and livelihoods.
Then he fails to provide a link to a report he bases his entire article on.
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A report from the Freedom Foundation, a Washington State think tank, explains why. The foundation’s original analysis of deaths
He claims the report says there are problems in Washington State, not the US.
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in the state found the number
may have
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may have been inflated by as much as 13%:
In May, a report released by the Freedom Foundation, an Olympia-based free-market think tank, revealed the DOH was attributing to COVID-19 every death in which the deceased previously tested positive for the virus. However, it’s clear that catching the disease and dying of it are two very different matters.

And by focusing on Washington State, he implies the CDC gets its numbers from state data. It doesn't. It PURCHASES all death certificates from around the country and compiles the data separately.
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Washington’s data was riddled with cases — as much as 13 percent of the total — in which the death certificate made no reference to COVID-19 as a cause of death. In several cases, even gunshot deaths were chalked up to the virus.
Here he's still focusing on Washington State's numbers as if they were meaningful ...
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While the Department of Health did remove 200 deaths from the count, the Freedom Foundation did another analysis. Combining data sources from the Department of Health for nearly 2,000 deaths as of early September,
... but apparently accepting the validity of DEATH CERTIFICATES.
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the new analysis found that 170 death certificates did not mention COVID-19. Another 171 deaths had no causal connection to the virus. According to the Post Millennial, the group estimates Washington’s death counts could be inflated by as much as 20%.
Now he finally addresses the CDC, and completely misrepresents the data, which CLEARLY show that bad things happen when you have "Conditions mentioned in conjunction with COVID-19" like "pneumonia unspecified" 96,314 deaths, or "acute respiratory failure" 50,728 deaths, or "respiratory failure, unspecified" 37,683 deaths. Who'd a' thunk COVID-19 could cause pneumonia and respiratory failure?
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New data from the CDC regarding the conditions contributing to deaths where COVID-19 is also involved clearly demonstrates deaths from the virus are overestimated nationwide.
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And THEN he goes on to equate "what's in a patient's chart" with "primary cause of death" listed on a death certificate?
REALLY? Stacey? Do you think nobody notices how you lie?
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This is not surprising given the loose guidelines for attributing a death to COVID-19 and the financial incentives through public and private insurance to put COVID-19 on a patient’s chart.
Then he goes on to quote his own BS
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First, as I have written several

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:23 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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I seem to remember a time when our government was keeping us safe from WMDs.
You CLEARLY equate WMDs with COVID-19 as government fabrications! But hey, live in denial for all I care!



Covid exists, just as there were WMD's somewhere in that region of the globe.

You've bought into one hysteria and not the other.

Sad.


Fuck your reliance on the very same Government that lied to you about WMDs to protect you from Covid. You sicken me.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:39 AM


Quote me where I "relied" on government protection.

I posted a story, which was one person's experience, reaction, and opinion. If I can't post something like that here to point out DIFFERENCES FROM THE US from around the globe, then you have no business posting anything at all, because all YOU do is whine your endless self-centered whine and hyperventilate.

And, no, it didn't have to be this way. Singapore is merely one alternate example. Canada is another.

OTOH we could have been like Brazil. HEY!! We ARE like Brazil! OOPS. I guess that's one example we would rather not resemble.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:44 AM

I brought up no less than twice how she had said that, and you avoided the fact that she did and that I was bringing it to your attention.

If you're so happy about her reaction to how they handle it there, and you can't even bring yourself to call out her bullshit on her reliance on her government to keep her safe, and then you post the article while saying a phrase that Ted says all the time "IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY", than you agree that you want our own Government to protect you from the big bad virus. The same government that lied to you about WMDs and a million other things and whether or not there are any truth to their lies, they never let a good opportunity to take away your personal liberties in the name of your safe go to waste.

There's no other way to spin that, darlin'.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:45 AM


So, SHE 'SAID' SOMETHING! Big fucking deal.

This is EXACTLY like how you kept claiming I was 'for lockdowns' and 'full government control over everything' when I never - not once - posted any such things. You have a really stoopid way of reading what isn't there.

Grow up.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:48 AM

One of us isn't down with complete government control in exchange for keeping us safe. The other one of us is.

Period.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:51 AM



You can't quote me so you have to make shit up. But that's no different from usual.

So just keep making shit up.


JACK.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
One of us isn't down with complete government control in exchange for keeping us safe. The other one of us is.

Period.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

LINKS, OR IT HASN'T HAPPENED. This is just as delusional as WISHY insisting that KIKI and I discussed giving all of our weaposn to Russia, and then magically made the whole thing disappear.

We ALL know that your statement isn't true, SIX. Your mommy issues are screwing you up, just like WISHY's uncle issues are screwing HER up. Please, try to work you way thru them.

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Wednesday, January 6, 2021 2:46 PM

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This Is Why The New Mutant COVID Strain That Is Ravaging South Africa Has Scientists Extremely Worried...

Scientists are telling us that the new mutant strain in South Africa has a total of eight changes to the spike protein, and Dr. John Bell of Oxford University is calling them “pretty substantial changes”…

MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/why-new-mutant-covid-strain-ravagin
g-south-africa-has-scientists-extremely-worried


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