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Monday, December 14, 2020 1:04 AM




OK. FINALLY.

ACTUAL CDC NUMBERS for SOME causes of death for SOME of 2020.

Now, the CDC cautions that these numbers are "provisional" and "incomplete".

But their numbers show that deaths from OTHER medical causes, like hypertension, diabetes, kidney failure and so on, are HIGHER than before COVID-19, not less.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

For example, additional "excess" deaths above normal since February 2, 2020 for

influenza and pneumonia IIXXXXXXXXXX 3,054
chronic lower respiratory disease XXXXXX 1,026
other diseases of the respiratory system IX 1,921

Big ticket killers and the excess death contributions are

Alzheimer's disease and dementia XXXX 37,125
Hypertensive diseases IIXXXXXXXXXXX 21,954
Ischemic heart disease IXXXXXXXXXXX 14,504
Diabetes XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 13,739


All in all, 117,383 EXTRA people are estimated to have died in addition to deaths from COVID-19.

(Suicides, accidents, and homicides are excluded as the CDC notes, many investigations are still ongoing.)

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm



Dr. Woolf also warned that many people who are not captured in mortality statistics may still have adverse health outcomes.

“A person who survived the pandemic may end up deteriorating over the next few years because of problems that happened during the pandemic,” he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/13/us/deaths-covid-other-c
auses.html



X-posted in the 'some covid-19 thoughts' thread

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Monday, December 14, 2020 10:13 AM

Hope your little dickies don't fall off and your ovaries don't drop.

You are the test subjects.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:10 AM



miscellaneous items of note

1 in 20 Americans has tested positive

One in 20 Americans has tested positive for COVID-19, Johns Hopkins University data and Census Bureau population estimates show.


Should I get the vaccine if I've had COVID? Doctors say yes

One of the frequent questions asked with the coronavirus vaccine rollout is whether people who have been previously infected should still get inoculated. After all, the one benefit from contracting the disease is supposed to be a level of immunity.

The Cincinnati Enquirer, part of the USA TODAY Network, posed the question to medical professionals in the area. All four doctors who responded said yes, get the shot, although it would be polite to let others who have not been infected get immunized first, considering demand for the vaccine currently outstrips supply.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-updates-utah-mink-is-fir
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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:08 PM


Well, total deaths are a bit over 303,000. Anyone want to guess if we'll hit 1/3 M - 333,333 - when the clock rolls around to 00:00 Christmas morn?


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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:56 PM


Signy, just in case you're not keeping track, SoCal data is dire - last I knew about a week ago positivity rates were at 11% (I think they're higher now), and as of last night there were all of 20 ICU beds left in all of SoCal (KNX1070), with many hospitals having no beds left. Transmission is now rampant household-to-household, and within households. (KNX107)

Stay safe!

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:02 PM


Quote:

U.S. deaths top 3 million, by far the most in one year

The increase over 2019’s total fatalities will mark the largest single-year percentage leap since 1918.

Final mortality data for this year will not be available for months. But preliminary numbers suggest that the United States is on track to see more than 3.2 million deaths this year, or at least 400,000 more than in 2019. ... the 2020 numbers amount to a jump of about 15%, and could go higher once all the deaths from this month are counted.

... life expectancy for 2020 could end up dropping as much as three full years, said Robert Anderson of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856
b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7



This is preliminary CDC data, unfortunately there were no links back to the CDC in any version of this story I found online.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:06 PM



And of course there's the "mutant" coronavirus:

UK mutant coronavirus is probably already in U.S., Fauci says
Atlanta Journal-Constitution|3 hours ago
A mutant form of the coronavirus that originated in the United Kingdom is probably already in the U.S., according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


And of course there's the "mutant" coronavirus:

UK mutant coronavirus is probably already in U.S., Fauci says
Atlanta Journal-Constitution|3 hours ago
A mutant form of the coronavirus that originated in the United Kingdom is probably already in the U.S., according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.




Translation = Be afraid forever, sheep.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:09 AM


Just as WISHI doesn't understand it's possible to disagree with people and even struggle against them without hating anyone (or in her extreme case, having her emotions, thoughts, and life ruled by hate), you seem to be oblivious to the notion that it's possible to be careful without being afraid (or in your extreme case, having your emotions, thoughts, and life ruled by fear/ anxiety).

But maybe you're a person who's internal life is ruled so much by fear that you can't imagine that either - how to consider danger rationally and be careful rationally, without fear - and your only way of dealing with danger is denial.

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