Election Fraud Debunking Megathread
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UPDATED: Saturday, April 22, 2023 19:24
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Fox “straight news” program explicitly promotes Trump's attempted coup
Harris Faulkner's Outnumbered Overtime tweets out #stopthesteal
https://www.mediamatters.org/harris-faulkner/fox-straight-news-program
-explicitly-promotes-trumps-attempted-coup
Once Shepard Smith left, I knew it was only a matter of time before they turn into a full on propaganda network. Just not enough people to hold down the fort, so to speak. No "straight news" just all opinion. They have to try and keep people from turning to OANN and News Max for everything.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:So, you don't know. Guess we'll just add that to the giant mountain of things you don't know.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:ORLY? Describe what you are.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a Conservative. Neither is Trump.
Ask Ted's NeoCon buddies behind The Lincoln Project if they're happy with my Trump vote.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
An intellectual and emotional baby.
I don't feel the need to limit myself with labels that dummies such as yourself need to wear like badges in order to function in the real world.
I'm sure a mask-wearing badge-bot like you won't have any problem walking around with your "I Got Covid-19 Shots" button when your Biden* Establishment Gestapo starts breaking your legs if you leave your house without wearing one.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:You don't feel the need to know what you're talking about, show evidence, or believe facts, either. You're not a conservative or a liberal. Just a baby.
I don't feel the need to limit myself with labels that dummies such as yourself need to wear like badges in order to function in the real world.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:You don't feel the need to know what you're talking about, show evidence, or believe facts, either. You're not a conservative or a liberal. Just a baby.
I don't feel the need to limit myself with labels that dummies such as yourself need to wear like badges in order to function in the real world.
Yup. Except the exact opposite of what you just said.
You don't like facts, so you behave like a child when confronted with them.
Haven't seen you post in the Mask Off or Covid-19 Thoughts thread today, Marcos.
Why is that?
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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FACTS: https://www.scotusblog.com/election-litigation/
I'd urge you all to follow that page to get the real news on where the election litigation stands.
Any "news" from either side that isn't in accordance to what you see there is non-factual and feels based.
No opinion based bullshit there. Just facts. Just dates of where every legal challenge currently stands, and time stamps on the steps taken to get there.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:The Democrats' FBI director, James Comey, said the Russians interfered with the 2016 election. Trump said Russia didn't. When James Comey would not stop investigating Russia, Trump fired him, insisting over and over that Trump had not colluded with the Russians, but Comey was investigating Russians, not Trump. Trump never understood that. 6ix still doesn't. The Senate Intelligence Committee got around to finishing what Comey started and found Russia did interfere in 2016. Trump is still saying Russia didn't. Trump is a very peculiar man, misunderstanding simple concepts, as does 6ix, while telling the world he is a very stable genius. He would not have won in 2016 without Russia's interference and Comey's help by telling voters the FBI would continue to investigate the criminality of Hillary's email after the election. Comey's accusation that Hillary was an un-indicted criminal was more than enough to shift a few thousand votes in Trump's favor, winning the election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Once a political party gets into the habit of rejecting facts it doesn’t want to hear, one fact it’s bound to reject sooner or later is the fact that it lost an election. In that sense there’s a straight line from, say, the Republican embrace of climate denial to the party’s willingness to go along with Trump’s attempts to retain power.
And the GOP’s previous history of dealing with inconvenient reality gives us a pretty good idea about when the party will accept Joe Biden as the legitimate winner of the 2020 election — namely, never.
Pray tell... when will Democrats deal with the inconvenient reality that Trump has been the legitimate winner of 2016?
"Senate Intel Releases Volume 5 of Bipartisan Russia Report" - August 18, 2020
www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-releases-volume-5-bipar
tisan-russia-report
"Donald Trump will be president thanks to 80,000 people in three states"
www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/donald-trump-will-be
-president-thanks-to-80000-people-in-three-states/
The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too. Or put another way: But for 79,646 votes cast (for 3rd party candidates who couldn't possibly win) in those three states, she'd be the next president of the United States.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Harvard psychiatrist explains Trump's deepening paranoia and why he'll live in 'fantasyland till the day he dies'
https://www.alternet.org/2020/12/harvard-psychiatrist-on-trump/?utm_so
urce=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6040
Q: How do you think people in the future will make sense of the Age of Trump and all its horrible events?
A: The public, especially all those people who are not particularly informed and who can be pushed either way by whatever is the prevailing norm, will come back to what we used to consider "normal" — at least outwardly sharing American ideals about democracy and decency. In my opinion, the new norm will be to say that Donald Trump was a fascist and he almost took over America. What were we thinking? Trump is a wakeup call that Americans are not different from other people and there will always be a substantial number of people in this country who, when feeling "cheated" and "unheard," will fall again for a fascist leader if we do not address the underlying problems of the country.
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Sounds like a certain Hoosier we know. Voted for Bush twice, but calls him a warmonger, now.
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More than 1,000 lawyers call for Giuliani’s ‘strike force’ to be disbarred for election fraud conspiracies
Legal experts ask bar associations to condemn and investigate the abuse of law by Trump’s legal team
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/tru
mp-lawyers-giuliani-letter-b1767790.html?utm_source=reddit.com
Nearly 1,500 lawyers on Monday urged the bar associations across the US to initiate an investigation and take action against Donald Trump’s legal team, including his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who are leading lawsuits claiming election fraud.
They argued that the attempts of Mr Trump’s legal team are “indefensible” and they must be penalised.
“It is indefensible for lawyers to falsely proclaim widespread voting fraud, submit a pattern of frivolous court claims and actively seek to undermine citizens’ faith in our election’s integrity,. We condemn this conduct without reservation." said the letter.
The letter said it is obvious that Mr. Giuliani’s aim is “to fuel Mr. Trump’s campaign to delegitimize the outcome of the election.”
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There are approximately 1.35 MILLION practicing lawyers in the USA, and they come in all stripes and persuasions, from ambulance-chasers to overzealous prosecutors to corporate lobbyists and patent attorneys to creative tax lawyers to fine upstanding practitioners of their profession. I'm not surprised that there are 1,500 or so ideologically-possessed lawyers out there who don't understand the rule of law.
What Trump's legal team is doing is contesting election irregulatrities, which by now have been evidenced by over a thousand affidavits, CCTV footage, statistical implausibilities, and (soon to be) foresnic examination of the voting machines in Wisconsin.
IF BIDEN SUPPORTERS ARE SO SURE OF THEIR "WIN", THEY SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR FROM A CLOSE EXAIMINATION OF THE VOTES AND VOTING SYSTEMS UNDER EVIDENTIARY RULES. THEY SHOULD WELCOME THE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THEIR WIN SO MUCH THE STRONGER. THE ONLY REASON TO TRY AND HOLD BACK AN INVESTIGATION IS BECAUSE THEY FEAR THE RESULT.
I was mightily disappointed when Al Gore and John Kerry slunk away after having been defeated in elections that looked just as implausible. I was EXTREMELY disappointed when the various Democrat-controlled institutions ... the FBI, the various state legislatures and State Secretaries who control the actual voting process .... did NOTHING to ensure that votes would be done and counted in a reliable and transparent manner.
This massive vote-by-mail scheme has NO reliable chain of custody attached to the votes, and what little there was (signatures on outer envelopes) were immediately tossed away so they couldn't be examined.
I hope that THIS time a proper investigation is done, and that as a result the vote becomes more secure and reliable, because only cheaters want a system that can be cheated
PICTURE ID AT THE POLLS
HAND MARKED BALLOTS
COUNTED BY HAND, IN PUBLIC
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Quote:Sorry to tell you, but the investigation was done. What were the results? That electronic voting machines cannot be audited and won't be switched to paper ballots, which can be audited:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I hope that THIS time a proper investigation is done, and that as a result the vote becomes more secure and reliable, because only cheaters want a system that can be cheated
A fundamental flaw of direct-recording voting machines—that is, ones where you pull the lever on an old mechanical machine or you touch the touch screen on a modern one—all of those machines end up being completely impossible to audit. There’s no way to know whether the machine was honest or not, short of taking it apart and actually being able to inspect the mechanism. We have no good way of doing that with software. The complete lack of any auditable record of the count, so that you had to completely trust programmers, was a real problem.
www.scientificamerican.com/article/an-expert-on-voting-machines-explai
ns-how-they-work/
Voting methods and equipment by state
https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_state
Direct recording electronic (DRE) systems: DRE systems employ computers that record votes directly into the computers' memory. These interfaces may incorporate touchscreens, dials, or mechanical buttons. The voter's choices are stored by the computer on a cartridge or hard drive. Only some DRE systems are also equipped with Voter-Verified Paper Audit Trail (VVPAT) printers, which produce paper records that can be preserved to be tabulated in case of an audit or recount.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.
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Quote:There is a massive, albeit chaotic, operation underway to deepen and expand Trump's longstanding assaults on the norms, traditions, laws, and guardrails of our system of government and politics.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.
Trump's ongoing claims are a twisted mixtape of fabrications and falsehoods and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, appeared to double down on this approach in surreal appearances last week before the Michigan and Arizona legislatures. Both the Michigan House and the Arizona Legislature have since had to limit operations because of fears that members were exposed to Covid-19 after Giuliani tested positive for the virus and was hospitalized on Sunday.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Then you've made my case for me: a vote that can't be audited is inadmissible as evidence of anything, even of the result.
SIGNYM:
I hope that THIS time a proper investigation is done, and that as a result the vote becomes more secure and reliable, because only cheaters want a system that can be cheated
SECOND Sorry to tell you, but the investigation was done. What were the results? That electronic voting machines cannot be audited and won't be switched to paper ballots, which can be audited:
A fundamental flaw of direct-recording voting machines—that is, ones where you pull the lever on an old mechanical machine or you touch the touch screen on a modern one—all of those machines end up being completely impossible to audit.
But, yanno , they CAN investigate the irregularities. Been audited many times, SECONDRATE. Had our chain of custody reviewed, data photocopied, samples split, filled out questionnaires, had technical experts walk the lab, even done analyses under direct observation. It's called a SYSTEMS AUDIT.
How long did Mueller grind on every fine detail of a hoax? How long did it take to pursue all of the problems of the Boeing Max?
Don't you think our voting system deserves as much scrutiny?
And if our systems flunk, then stop dancing around and fucking FIX THEM.
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Quote:Scrutiny? Is that the sum total of your concerns? Especially when every county in the USA does their voting different than every other? That was always the wrongest possible way to design and run a system. You always make me laugh, Signym, at your high mindedness and abstractions that don't even get close to grubby/greasy/muddy reality of machines. The voting system is just another machine that was poorly designed. But the erratic nonsense that happens in law/banking/finance/government/bureaucracies run by people who obviously understand only words and very little about machines or how anything digital, mechanical, electrical or hydraulic works has always amused me.
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Then you've made my case for me: a vote that can't be audited is inadmissible as evidence of anything, even of the result.
SIGNYM:
I hope that THIS time a proper investigation is done, and that as a result the vote becomes more secure and reliable, because only cheaters want a system that can be cheated
SECOND Sorry to tell you, but the investigation was done. What were the results? That electronic voting machines cannot be audited and won't be switched to paper ballots, which can be audited:
A fundamental flaw of direct-recording voting machines—that is, ones where you pull the lever on an old mechanical machine or you touch the touch screen on a modern one—all of those machines end up being completely impossible to audit.
But, yanno , they CAN investigate the irregularities. Been audited many times, SECONDRATE. Had our chain of custody reviewed, data photocopied, samples split, filled out questionnaires, had technical experts walk the lab, even done analyses under direct observation. It's called a SYSTEMS AUDIT.
How long did Mueller grind on every fine detail of a hoax? How long did it take to pursue all of the problems of the Boeing Max?
Don't you think our voting system deserves as much scrutiny?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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SIGNYM:
I hope that THIS time a proper investigation is done, and that as a result the vote becomes more secure and reliable, because only cheaters want a system that can be cheated
SECOND Sorry to tell you, but the investigation was done. What were the results? That electronic voting machines cannot be audited and won't be switched to paper ballots, which can be audited:
A fundamental flaw of direct-recording voting machines—that is, ones where you pull the lever on an old mechanical machine or you touch the touch screen on a modern one—all of those machines end up being completely impossible to audit.
SIGNY Then you've made my case for me: a vote that can't be audited is inadmissible as evidence of anything, even of the result.
But, yanno , they CAN investigate the irregularities. Been audited many times, SECONDRATE. Had our chain of custody reviewed, data photocopied, samples split, filled out questionnaires, had technical experts walk the lab, even done analyses under direct observation. It's called a SYSTEMS AUDIT.
How long did Mueller grind on every fine detail of a hoax? How long did it take to pursue all of the problems of the Boeing Max?
Don't you think our voting system deserves as much scrutiny?
SECOND; Scrutiny? Is that the sum total of your concerns? Especially when every county in the USA does their voting different than every other? That was always the wrongest possible way to design and run a system. You always make me laugh, Signym, at your high mindedness and abstractions that don't even get close to grubby/greasy/muddy reality of machines. The voting system is just another machine that was poorly designed. But the erratic nonsense that happens in law/banking/finance/government/bureaucracies run by people who obviously understand only words and very little about machines or how anything digital, mechanical, electrical or hydraulic works has always amused me.
Politicians aren't clueless, they're CORRUPT. The investigations won't be conducted by corrupt politicians. But what WOULD make these pols sit up and take notice would be invalidating non-auditable elections.
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Sean Hannity’s latest election fraud “evidence” was too bogus for OAN
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/sean-hannitys-latest-election-fr
aud-evidence-was-too-bogus-oan
Even OAN -- which had previously published unhinged conspiracy theories about the antifa ties of a battered septuagenarian protestor and an international cabal’s plot to use the coronavirus to achieve population control -- didn’t stand by the story. Later that same day, the network’s anchor said they were “correcting the record” and that Biden’s address actually received “at least hundreds of thousands" of views.
Trump, however, either didn’t see OAN’s correction or didn’t care. He continued to use the “grossly false tally” during his first post-election rally on Saturday.
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Gotta out-crazy the competition to keep the viewers. Expect this shit to get even nuttier than ever seen in the coming 4 years.
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Quote:Who does the "invalidating"? Pay attention to that word invalidating. The corrupt politicians are who. Not you. Not the voters. Not the courts. Not statisticians. Not university professors. We have a perfect example of a corrupt politician invalidating an election: Donald Trump.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Politicians aren't clueless, they're CORRUPT. The investigations won't be conducted by corrupt politicians. But what WOULD make these pols sit up and take notice would be invalidating non-auditable elections.
So what have conservatives heard over the past month since the election? I hardly have to tell you, do I? Trump has kept up a tsunami of tweets insisting that Democrats cheated on a massive scale. He has launched lawsuits by the dozens to show that he’s serious. Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh (not to even mention lunatics like Mark Levin and Lou Dobbs) have supported the wildest conspiracy theories daily. The Wall St. Journal editorial page has been more middlebrow about the whole thing, as it always is, but even they have insisted that we should let the challenges run their course because, hey, who knows? And among Republican political leaders, the response to Trump’s Twitter rages has ranged all the way from silence to full-blown conspiracy mongering. Only a tiny handful have finally admitted that Biden won.
So if you’re someone who’s already suspicious of Democrats in general—and doubly suspicious of Democratic election fraud, because that’s been a staple of Republican discourse for years—what reason would you have not to believe that Trump was the victim of massive fraud?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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It would be the courts, SECOND, that would be doing the invalidating.
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Quote:Wrong. It would be the corrupt politicians writing laws that are interpreted by the courts. If Congress wanted to create a rationalized voting system, it could do it by telling the thousands of counties to either cancel their elections or else follow the rules Congress wrote about how Presidential elections will be conducted. If Congress wants rules followed, it will have to pay the counties to follow the rules, or even better, take elections away from county control and give it to a national agency. The Federal government controls air traffic, using thousands of federal employees and billions of dollars of expensive equipment, not leaving air traffic to counties and states to handle. The Federal government could control elections the same way, but only if Congress passes laws. And as a reminder, Congress is made of corrupt politicians.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It would be the courts, SECOND, that would be doing the invalidating.
How Air Traffic Control Works (there are lessons for smoothly running elections without the electoral equivalent of midair collisions)
https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/air-traffic-
control.htm
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Voting laws are written into the Constitution.
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#toc-sec
tion-4-
and various amendments and interpretations thereof
https://www.usa.gov/voting-laws#item-212489
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Quote:If the Constitution had rules about air traffic control, there would be midair collisions every single day because George Washington knew as little about how to run vote counting after an election as he knew about how to fly an airplane and land it.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Voting laws are written into the Constitution.
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#toc-sec
tion-4-
and various amendments and interpretations thereof
https://www.usa.gov/voting-laws#item-212489
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Trump got shot down by the Supreme Court this afternoon:
Republican Rep. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania submitted the final briefing in his request to the Supreme Court to have the presidential election results in his state tossed out—along with, presumably, his own election. Within an hour of that filing, the Supreme Court rejected the appeal, which had been joined by dozens of other Republican members of Congress, in a one-line order with no noted dissents.
https://twitter.com/stevenmazie/status/1336434213277609996
“The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied,” the order stated.
The curt denial was the first time the Supreme Court has weighed in on the ever-expanding pile of lawsuits seeking to overturn the election results. And, with that, Trump and his allies chalked up their 50th court defeat in the president’s desperate legal bid to overturn an election he lost by 7 million votes and in which he did worse than Mitt Romney and only slightly better than Michael Dukakis.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/scotus-supreme-court-alito
-amy-coney-barrett-laser-eyes.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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'The jig is up for Trump'
CNN senior legal analyst Laura Coates says that the Supreme Court ruling denying a request from Pennsylvania Republicans to block certification of the commonwealth's 2020 election results leaves the Trump campaign with no more options to overturn the election.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/08/laura-coates-supreme-co
urt-pennsylvania-trump-jig-is-up-sot-vpx.cnn
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Mitch McConnell Received Donations from Voting Machine Lobbyists Before Blocking Election Security Bills
https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-robert-mueller-election-secur
ity-russia-1451361
Remember this? Hmm...
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Won't matter if they push it to the Constitution, which is the attempt now.
Federal law doesn't supersede the Constitution, and the only Constitutional deadline for President of the US is on Noon of Inauguration day.
If you think that Federal law really means anything, tell that to all of the states that have currently legalized marijuana for recreational use for that tax revenue despite the fact that it is still illegal to possess or smoke weed on a federal level.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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In North Carolina, only three of the state’s 13 representatives in the House were Democrats after the 2014 congressional election, despite Democrats getting 44 percent of the vote. In 2016, the Democratic Party’s vote share in the state increased to 47 percent, but still only three representatives were Democrats. In 2018, Democrats won an even larger share of the vote—48.3 percent—but still had only three representatives. In 2019, North Carolina’s blatantly gerrymandered district maps were finally struck down by the Supreme Court. And so, this year, the Democrats managed a meager increase in representation—five representatives out of 13—despite again receiving 48 percent of the vote.
Who draws these grossly unfair maps, which are typical of others across the country? The state legislatures, which themselves are often elected using maps that reflect unrepresentative gerrymandering. In North Carolina in 2016, for example, the Republicans won a veto-proof supermajority in the state House of Representatives—obtaining more than two thirds of the seats—despite winning just 52 percent of the vote. Statewide races cannot be similarly gerrymandered, though, and that year, North Carolina voters elected a Democratic governor and attorney general. In response, the lame-duck legislature rushed to take away key powers from those offices. They succeeded. The general assembly then used its veto-proof majority to override 23 of Governor Roy Cooper’s 28 vetoes in the first three years of his term, rendering one of his key remaining powers effectively useless.
When voters try to contest gerrymanders or power grabs, many of the cases end up before the U.S. Supreme Court, where lifetime appointments are made by the president but approved by the Senate. The Senate is so lopsided right now that 26 states containing just 17 percent of the U.S. population elect a majority of senators—the smallest that proportion has ever been. That’s the people in the smallest 26 states. The Republican Party’s Senate majority in recent years has rested on its strength in these rural states. Barack Obama couldn’t even get a Senate hearing for his last nominee to the Supreme Court.
Today, the United States has a House filled with gerrymandered districts, a Senate dramatically tilted toward rural states, some state legislatures controlled by electoral minorities or slim majorities who get to exercise power as if they were overwhelming, and a Supreme Court with three justices appointed by a president who lost the popular vote. Is it any wonder that Trump thinks he can defy the results of the election and cling to power despite losing an election? Or that his party does not stand up for the will of voters?
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20201209012854/https://www.theatlantic.com
/ideas/archive/2020/12/trumps-farcical-inept-and-deadly-serious-coup-attempt/617309/
"Acting as if the GOP is trying to stage a coup is the best way to ensure it won’t."
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Trump’s campaign to pressure GOP elected officials to support his claims of a rigged election — and his success in convincing a majority of the party that widespread voter fraud occurred — is already showing signs of having far-reaching effects that will reshape the Republican Party for years to come.
State party chairs are tearing into their governors. Elected officials are knifing one another in the back. Failed candidates are seizing on Trump’s rhetoric to claim they were also victims of voter fraud in at least a half dozen states.
Trump has wrenched open the schism between the activist class and the elected class, according to interviews with more than a dozen Republican Party officials and strategists in the states.
“This is Hatfield and McCoy stuff, but it’s McCoy on McCoy, or Hatfield on Hatfield,” said Michael Brodkorb, a former deputy chair of the Minnesota Republican Party. “To see activists across the country really just with pitchforks and torches at the capitols … it’s just bonkers.”
In the short term, the forces unleashed by Trump threaten the party’s prospects in the Jan. 5 Georgia Senate runoff. But the infighting also stands to reshape the party for the long haul, with implications for the midterm elections and the presidential nominating contest in 2024.
Enmity between the Republican Party’s populist and establishment wings has existed in some form for years, long predating Trump. But Trump’s domination of the party has exacerbated the gulf between them, and his persistent demand that Republicans choose sides has left little room for compromise.
More at www.politico.com/news/2020/12/08/trump-gop-blow-up-443461
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^ Good.
They'll keep the seat warm for him.
Or maybe they should just buy him a new seat. It's going to be pretty cold and smell like shit with 4 years of a corpse sitting on it.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Originally posted by second:
Is it any wonder that Trump thinks he can defy the results of the election and cling to power despite losing an election? Or that his party does not stand up for the will of voters?
Let's quit pretending this was a mandate.
If there wasn't any fraud (which there absolutely was), Trump got enough votes in 2020 to have won any single Presidential election before 2020.
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Quote:Lincoln only got 39.8% of the votes, which is not a mandate. Should he have immediately surrendered to Confederate President Jefferson Davis, who received 97% of votes, which is an extraordinary mandate? Lincoln could have saved many lives by peacefully, graciously turning power over to Jeff Davis! The best people admired handsome, debonair Jeff Davis and were extremely enthusiastic about his policies. Meanwhile, the best people were dubious about homely, short on looks Lincoln and hardly anyone had a reason to celebrate his victory, especially Lincoln who predicted what would be happening next.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Is it any wonder that Trump thinks he can defy the results of the election and cling to power despite losing an election? Or that his party does not stand up for the will of voters?
Let's quit pretending this was a mandate.
If there wasn't any fraud (which there absolutely was), Trump got enough votes in 2020 to have won any single Presidential election before 2020.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_presidential_election
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Lincoln only got 39.8% of the votes, which is not a mandate.
Someone is confused. If Lincoln got roughly 40% of the vote and Davis got roughly 97% of the vote, that totals to 137%.
Also, you seem to be contradicting yourself on your previous arguments. Previously you insisted that the popular vote and ONLY the popular vote should demonstrate a mandate. Now you seem to be saying that a mandate from the voting public isn't necessary in order to be a good President.
Or are you saying that Lincoln should never have become President?
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Quote:When Lincoln got 40% of the votes for President, Senator Jefferson Davis angrily resigned from the US Senate. Jeff Davis wasn't leaving politics, but he couldn't be a President and a Senator at the same time. He had decided that he would be a much better President than Lincoln could ever be and he preceded, after being appointed provisional President, to take from Lincoln control over bits and pieces of the United States. For a job well done, Jeff received 97% of the slave-owners' votes for a 6 year term as Confederate President, in an election campaign where he promised to be an excellent President, far better than Lincoln. Trump is promising to be an excellent President. That isn't a believable promise, especially if you look back at how well he has performed since 2016.
Originally posted by SignyM:
SECONDQuote:
Lincoln only got 39.8% of the votes, which is not a mandate.
Someone is confused. If Lincoln got roughly 40% of the vote and Davis got roughly 97% of the vote, that totals to 137%.
Also, you seem to be contradicting yourself on your previous arguments. Previously you insisted that the popular vote and ONLY the popular vote should demonstrate a mandate. Now you seem to be saying that a mandate from the voting public isn't necessary in order to be a good President.
Or are you saying that Lincoln should never have become President?
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One Third Of US States Have Now Joined Texas SCOTUS Bid To Overturn Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/09/us/politics/trump-texas-supreme-cou
rt-lawsuit.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/missouri-joins-texas-taking-electi
on-fight-supreme-court
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With 17 states now joining Texas to overthrow the results of the election, it is now clear that outright opposition to democracy is not at the Trumpian fringe but rather at the outright center of the Republican Party.
https://twitter.com/steveliesman/status/1336813461460889603
“If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.” - David Frum
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Half the country is down with it buddy.
They've turned you Pro-Establishment.
Hope you're proud of yourself.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:The lawsuit, which seeks to invalidate millions of votes, makes more sense as an audition for a pardon than as a legal document.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
One Third Of US States Have Now Joined Texas SCOTUS Bid To Overturn Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/09/us/politics/trump-texas-supreme-cou
rt-lawsuit.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/missouri-joins-texas-taking-electi
on-fight-supreme-court
Pardon for who? Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. Paxton, after all, is reportedly under investigation by the FBI for alleged bribery and abuse of office. Trump, meanwhile, has been distributing pardons to his allies like candy. Paxton’s suit makes more sense as pardon-bait than it does as a legal document. And he may need presidential clemency to escape the federal criminal charges that could be imminent.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/ken-paxton-texas-lawsuit-s
cotus-election-pardon.html
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Quote:So, how did Lincoln become Presdient with only 40 pct of the popular vote?
Originally posted by second:Quote:When Lincoln got 40% of the votes for President, Senator Jefferson Davis angrily resigned from the US Senate. Jeff Davis wasn't leaving politics, but he couldn't be a President and a Senator at the same time. He had decided that he would be a much better President than Lincoln could ever be and he preceded, after being appointed provisional President, to take from Lincoln control over bits and pieces of the United States. For a job well done, Jeff received 97% of the slave-owners' votes for a 6 year term as Confederate President, in an election campaign where he promised to be an excellent President, far better than Lincoln. Trump is promising to be an excellent President. That isn't a believable promise, especially if you look back at how well he has performed since 2016.
Originally posted by SignyM:
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Lincoln only got 39.8% of the votes, which is not a mandate.
Someone is confused. If Lincoln got roughly 40% of the vote and Davis got roughly 97% of the vote, that totals to 137%.
Also, you seem to be contradicting yourself on your previous arguments. Previously you insisted that the popular vote and ONLY the popular vote should demonstrate a mandate. Now you seem to be saying that a mandate from the voting public isn't necessary in order to be a good President.
Or are you saying that Lincoln should never have become President?
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By YOUR argument, he shouldneve have become President at all!
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Quote:If you lived in the US, you might have studied US history, and you could answer that.
So, how did Lincoln become Presdient with only 40 pct of the popular vote?
By YOUR argument, he shouldneve have become President at all!
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What really happened to Lincoln...
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Quote:Lincoln got zero votes in the states that now elect Trump:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:So, how did Lincoln become Presdient with only 40 pct of the popular vote?
Originally posted by second:Quote:When Lincoln got 40% of the votes for President, Senator Jefferson Davis angrily resigned from the US Senate. Jeff Davis wasn't leaving politics, but he couldn't be a President and a Senator at the same time. He had decided that he would be a much better President than Lincoln could ever be and he preceded, after being appointed provisional President, to take from Lincoln control over bits and pieces of the United States. For a job well done, Jeff received 97% of the slave-owners' votes for a 6 year term as Confederate President, in an election campaign where he promised to be an excellent President, far better than Lincoln. Trump is promising to be an excellent President. That isn't a believable promise, especially if you look back at how well he has performed since 2016.
Originally posted by SignyM:
SECONDQuote:
Lincoln only got 39.8% of the votes, which is not a mandate.
Someone is confused. If Lincoln got roughly 40% of the vote and Davis got roughly 97% of the vote, that totals to 137%.
Also, you seem to be contradicting yourself on your previous arguments. Previously you insisted that the popular vote and ONLY the popular vote should demonstrate a mandate. Now you seem to be saying that a mandate from the voting public isn't necessary in order to be a good President.
Or are you saying that Lincoln should never have become President?
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By YOUR argument, he should never have become President at all!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election
The better question is how did Lincoln get reelected? He can thank his generals Grant and Sherman for killing and burning the way to another term in office. In his second presidential campaign, Lincoln ran against a third general, George B. McClellan, who Lincoln fired because McClellan wasn't eager to murder slave-owners to win the Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1864_United_States_presidential_election
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
lol
Keep track of Ilhan Omar's list of demands for Joe Biden* and how many of them get
fulfilled (SPOILER ALERT: ZERO).
Then get back to me in four years and tell me if you think that you didn't lose too, buddy.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:So SECONDRATE, have you decided whether the popular vote should decide the Presidency?
SECOND Lincoln only got 39.8% of the votes, which is not a mandate.
SIGNY Someone is confused. If Lincoln got roughly 40% of the vote and Davis got roughly 97% of the vote, that totals to 137%.
Also, you seem to be contradicting yourself on your previous arguments. Previously you insisted that the popular vote and ONLY the popular vote should demonstrate a mandate. Now you seem to be saying that a mandate from the voting public isn't necessary in order to be a good President.
Or are you saying that Lincoln should never have become President?
SECOND When Lincoln got 40% of the votes for President, Senator Jefferson Davis angrily resigned from the US Senate. Jeff Davis wasn't leaving politics, but he couldn't be a President and a Senator at the same time. He had decided that he would be a much better President than Lincoln could ever be and he preceded, after being appointed provisional President, to take from Lincoln control over bits and pieces of the United States. For a job well done, Jeff received 97% of the slave-owners' votes for a 6 year term as Confederate President, in an election campaign where he promised to be an excellent President, far better than Lincoln. Trump is promising to be an excellent President. That isn't a believable promise, especially if you look back at how well he has performed since 2016.
SIGNY So, how did Lincoln become Presdient with only 40 pct of the popular vote?
By YOUR argument, he should never have become President at all!
Have you figured out the contradiction in your own POV, yet?
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Quote:Give up, Russian troll. You got your ass handed to you, yet again.
Originally posted by SignyM:
So SECONDRATE, have you decided whether the popular vote should decide the Presidency?
Have you figured out the contradiction in your own POV, yet?
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Trump files motion to argue in person before U.S. Supreme Court that he won election
If the justices let Trump join a Texas lawsuit, it would create the extraordinary circumstance of a president asking the top court to decide that the millions of votes did not count
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/trump-files-motion-to-appear-in-pe
rson-to-support-texas-bid-to-undo-election-loss-at-supreme-court
“Both procedurally and substantively, it’s a mess,” Justin Levitt, an election law professor at Loyola Law School in California, said of the Texas lawsuit. “There’s zero chance the court agrees to take the case.”
Trump is represented by John Eastman, a conservative legal scholar who drew criticism for falsely questioning whether Vice President-elect Kamala Harris is eligible to serve as vice president because her immigrant parents were born outside the United States.
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Quote:Lincoln was elected President with less than 40% of the popular vote. In that election, the losers lost because they split their votes between three competing candidates, two of which then joined the Confederacy. What about the third one? That was famous Mr Stephen A. Douglas. He only won a single state, Missouri, and died in June 1861 from a heart attack. Not that he necessarily would have, but he didn't live long enough to overthrow Lincoln in a war.
Originally posted by SignyM:
So SECONDRATE, have you decided whether the popular vote should decide the Presidency?
Have you figured out the contradiction in your own POV, yet?
Before Lincoln was inaugurated, the losers planned to assassinate him, but he evaded the losers. The losers then coalesced around Jefferson Davis as their new President. The Army calling Davis its president killed about a million Americans in retaliation against the election of Lincoln. That Army was defeated by Lincoln's Army. Despite that, the spiteful losers in the election of 1860 had one more killing to go: Abraham Lincoln. That's your history lesson for today, Signym.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Secession_and_inaugurati
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election
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Republicans want more than a coup: Trump's loyalty test exposes their hatred for democracy
More than half of House Republicans and 17 GOP attorneys general have outed themselves as traitors
https://www.salon.com/2020/12/11/republicans-want-more-than-a-coup-tru
mps-loyalty-test-exposes-their-hatred-for-democracy/
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Texas attorney general does right-wing media tour on his lawsuit to steal the election for Trump
Supreme hype for a claim of constitutional “harm” to Republican states — from Democrats winning elections
https://www.mediamatters.org/voter-fraud-and-suppression/texas-attorne
y-general-does-right-wing-media-tour-his-lawsuit-steal
When Texas attorney general Ken Paxton first filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court demanding that all the votes of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — 10.4 million votes in total — be thrown out completely, the general media response was to call it a stunt. Paxton is under investigation for an alleged bribery scheme, and observers speculated that, by filing this ridiculous lawsuit, he is trawling for a presidential pardon from Donald Trump, whose recent pardon of his crony Michael Flynn has instilled hope among other GOP lowlifes that they can bribe Trump to do the same for them.
Yet even though this suit is widely dismissed as a joke, a slew of other elected Republicans joined the lawsuit on Thursday, lending support to Paxton's argument that red states should be able to overturn the results of an election that didn't end well for Republicans. So far, 17 Republican state attorneys general and 106 Republicans in the House of Representatives — more than half the GOP caucus — have signed onto amicus briefs supporting Paxton's absurd demands that all the votes of the residents of these four states be destroyed. Six states have asked to join Paxton's lawsuit directly. On Monday, only a couple of House Republicans — mainly Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama — were willing to openly support Trump's efforts to steal the election. Now it's the majority of the House GOP caucus.
In doing so, these Republicans have outed themselves as opponents of democracy. There is no other way to read this, and no wiggle room to pretend otherwise. This isn't about "voter fraud" or any of the other bad-faith gambits that Trump and his supporters are throwing out as distractions. It's about throwing out entire state elections because they favored a Democrat.
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Remember when these assholes were crying that the impeachment was going against the will of the voters?
They're literally trying to invalidate the will of voters now.
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Quote:THANK YOU FOR COMPLETELY EVADING MY QUESTION.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Lincoln was elected President with less than 40% of the popular vote. In that election, the losers lost because they split their votes between three competing candidates. Before Lincoln was inaugurated, the losers planned to assassinate him, but he evaded the losers. The losers then coalesced around Jefferson Davis as their new President. The Army calling Davis its president killed about a million Americans in retaliation against the election of Lincoln. That Army was defeated by Lincoln's Army. Despite that, the spiteful losers in the election of 1860 had one more killing to go: Abraham Lincoln. That's your history lesson for today, Signym.
Originally posted by SignyM:
So SECONDRATE, have you decided whether the popular vote should decide the Presidency?
Have you figured out the contradiction in your own POV, yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Secession_and_inaugurati
on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election
I asked you whether YOU THINK the popular vote should rule in deciding who becomes President, a point you were so passionate about when arguing against the Electoral College.
Since Lincoln did not get the popular vote, are you saying he shouldn't have become President?
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So SECOND, as I read your "history" Lincoln actual won the popular vote because no one got more votes than he did. And you've shown no discrepancy between the popular vote (of the entire US) and the electoral college (of the entire US) and the selection for the presidency (of the entire US).
Anything else to add?
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Quote:You fucking idiot. He DID win the popular vote. He got more votes than any of the other 3 candidates, you stupid Russian piece of shit.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THANK YOU FOR COMPLETELY EVADING MY QUESTION.
I asked you whether YOU THINK the popular vote should rule in deciding who becomes President, a point you were so passionate about when arguing against the Electoral College.
Since Lincoln did not get the popular vote, are you saying he shouldn't have become President?
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Quote:Kiki gives us even more proof he's stupid, and a Russian troll piece of shit. ^
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So SECOND, as I read your "history" Lincoln actual won the popular vote because no one got more votes than he did. And you've shown no discrepancy between the popular vote (of the entire US) and the electoral college (of the entire US) and the selection for the presidency (of the entire US).
Anything else to add?
The electoral college is a pathetic relic of our racist past. It should have gone away a century ago.
Only the popular vote should determine who's president.
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They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.
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Quote:You misspelled "me" and "my," Russian troll.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.
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Michigan Trump Voter Stunned After His Name Shows Up On List Of Allegedly 'Dead' Biden Voters
https://www.comicsands.com/michigan-dead-trump-voter-alive-2649444183.
html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GTAK&utm_source=George+Takei+Newsletters&utm_campaign=851bfb672d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_06_29_05_08_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_2e6b4c049b-851bfb672d-304174341
Republicans' continued attempts to paint the election as fraudulent have hit yet another snag.
This time, the hiccup comes from the state of Michigan, where a very much alive Trump voter appeared on a conservative activist's list of supposed dead people who fraudulently voted for Biden last month.
The voter has understandably been left stunned by the incident.
Trumptards are so stupid, they can't keep their lies straight!
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Trump's uncoverin' evidence of election fraud...by Republicans.
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1337044623261380610?ref_src=twsr
c%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1337044623261380610%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.comicsands.com%2Fmichigan-dead-trump-voter-alive-2649444183.html
It's always, ONLY Republicans.
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Quote:You're just mad you got your ass handed to you again, you dimwitted Russian troll. I can't believe Putin still pays you to lie so poorly.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.
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Texas GOP chair floats secession for 'law-abiding states' after Supreme Court defeat
Texas GOP chair Allen West rebuked the high court in a statement, saying that "law-abiding states" should "form a Union" after the decision throwing out the lawsuit from Texas. The South shall rise again.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/529926-texas-gop-chair-appear
s-to-suggest-secession-after-scotus-rejects
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Quote:Signym, I'm not evading so much as I think your questions show you are fucked up in the head, you goddamn Russian or idiot living in California. (I read everything you write and you are one fucked up person, but you don't know it or won't admit it. Sorry I had to give you the bad news.) Nobody got a majority in 1860. The Constitution doesn't allow for run-off elections (a very foolish decision by the Founding Fathers) but it does allow for the President to be selected by the House of Representatives. If a decision couldn't be made by the electoral college (another foolish institution created by the Founding Fathers who weren't as smart as they thought of themselves) then the House would have decided who is President. If the House couldn't decide, too bad for the USA, there will be no President until the House does and no laws can be passed. Some interested facts that the House could not know, but needed to know before making a decision:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:THANK YOU FOR COMPLETELY EVADING MY QUESTION.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Lincoln was elected President with less than 40% of the popular vote. In that election, the losers lost because they split their votes between three competing candidates. Before Lincoln was inaugurated, the losers planned to assassinate him, but he evaded the losers. The losers then coalesced around Jefferson Davis as their new President. The Army calling Davis its president killed about a million Americans in retaliation against the election of Lincoln. That Army was defeated by Lincoln's Army. Despite that, the spiteful losers in the election of 1860 had one more killing to go: Abraham Lincoln. That's your history lesson for today, Signym.
Originally posted by SignyM:
So SECONDRATE, have you decided whether the popular vote should decide the Presidency?
Have you figured out the contradiction in your own POV, yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Secession_and_inaugurati
on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election
I asked you whether YOU THINK the popular vote should rule in deciding who becomes President, a point you were so passionate about when arguing against the Electoral College.
Since Lincoln did not get the popular vote, are you saying he shouldn't have become President?
Beside Lincoln, of the three competing candidates, two joined the Confederacy to overthrow Lincoln, the Union and, specifically, the House of Representatives. That's something the House would have really needed to know before it picked one of those guys. What about the third one? That was famous Mr Stephen A. Douglas. He only won a single state, Missouri, and died in June 1861. Not that he necessarily would have joined a rebellion, but he didn't live long enough to overthrow Lincoln in a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election
Stephen Douglas' Position_on_slavery:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_A._Douglas#Position_on_slavery
He felt that discussing slavery as a moral question would place it on a dangerous level of abstraction.
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‘I WON THE ELECTION IN A LANDSLIDE’: Trump continues freakout on Twitter after brutal Supreme Court loss
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337745268591259648
I look forward to Trump and Biden simultaneously being the Presidents for different groups of Americans. Maybe there will be a War Between the Groups, much like the War Between the States, Apr 12, 1861 – May 9, 1865. Why? This is why:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT!!!
7:47 AM · Dec 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337755964339081216
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Frustrated Trump mulls appointing special counsel to probe election, Hunter Biden
Last Updated: Dec. 12, 2020 at 9:20 a.m. ET
The president has expressed disappointment in AG Barr as efforts to overturn election have failed, including Supreme Court refusal of Texas case
www.marketwatch.com/story/frustrated-trump-mulls-appointing-special-co
unsel-to-probe-election-hunter-biden-11607782800
Please, Mr Trump, go do the maximum and order the Bidens and V.P. Kamala Harris arrested. I really want to see how far my local Texas Trump voters will go to support Trump in all the crazy, stupid things he does and says.
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Having linked, and read, the Constitution on the nature of USA elections, and understanding that many of the SCOTUS are Constitutionalists, the SCOTUS could have hardly decided any different. The Constitution provides for each state to decide HOW they want to conduct each election. They could have voters throw darts at a dartboard, as far as I can tell.
There is no commitment in the Constitution that REQUIRES one person, one vote, and no commitment in the Constitution that requires non-fraudulent elections. That is up to the state legislatures and governors.
OTOH, that also free the states' electors from the vote, popular, honest, or otherwise, as long as its done according to the rules of the each state's legislature.
If the people of the USA want elections that are NOT fraudulent, they need to take that up with their State constitution, legislators, governors, and state secretaries.
If they want to push for nationally fraud-free votes, they need a Constitutional amendment to clarify that the intent of the vote is to provide for a fraud-free, auditable results.
PICTURE ID AT THE POLLS
HAND MARKED BALOTS
COUNTED BY HAND, IN PUBLIC
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Quote:From 1789 to 1913, when the 17th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified, senators were elected by state legislatures. Maybe the President will someday be elected by a direct popular election, but until the equivalent of the 17th amendment is passed for President, we will have the half-ass system from the Founding Fathers.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Having linked, and read, the Constitution on the nature of USA elections, and understanding that many of the SCOTUS are Constitutionalists, the SCOTUS could have hardly decided any different. The Constitution provides for each state to decide HOW they want to conduct each election. They could have voters throw darts at a dartboard, as far as I can tell.
There is no commitment in the Constitution that REQUIRES one person, one vote, and no commitment in the Constitution that requires non-fraudulent elections. That is up to the state legislatures and governors.
OTOH, that also free the states' electors from the vote, popular, honest, or otherwise, as long as its done according to the rules of the each state's legislature.
https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment17.html
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Trump whines about losing on Twitter after skipping White House Christmas Party
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/trump-whines-about-losing-on-twitter-
after-skipping-white-house-christmas-party/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6093&recip_id=28351&list_id=1
President Donald Trump on Friday suffered a humiliating defeat at the U.S. Supreme Court when his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election were rejected by all nine justices.
Trump had argued it would be a great win for the American people if the Supreme Court overturned the will of the voters.
"If the Supreme Court shows great Wisdom and Courage, the American People will win perhaps the most important case in history, and our Electoral Process will be respected again!
After the defeat, Trump skipped the White House Christmas Party.
But he weighed in on the issue in a sad tweet posted shortly before midnight.
“The Supreme Court really let us down. No Wisdom, No Courage!” Trump said of his efforts to destroy democracy being rebuffed.
Other Republicans have lashed out after the rejection, with Diamond and Silk calling for a military coup and the chair of the Republican Party of Texas suggesting states should secede.
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So, just to be clear that we are in agreement on this, SECOND, just because the SCOTUS decided not to intervene in the election DOES NOT MEAN that the election was fair.
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Given the statistical near-impossibilities of the vote (the pause in vote-counting followed by sudden jumps in Biden votes, the up-down ballot discrepancies in the dem vote) TRUMP IN ALL PROBABILITY WON THE ELECTION. Dems in Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, and Madison probably hijacked the election, in coordinated fashion, under the direction of the DNC.
So, NOW WHAT?
There will be no "resistance movement" in the halls of power because the deep state, the globalists, the media, and the tech giants are all behind the transnationalist agenda. The resistance, what there is of it, will be at the popular level and IMHO should be aimed at the 2022 national elections and at the state and city level, organized around social media that bypasses all of those corporate censoring disinformationalists.
ALSO, I believe we will see Biden be driven from office because, again IMHO, that was the plan all along. Hunter Biden will suddenly become an issue, or Joe Biden's health, and he will no longer be the official sockpuppet, somebody else will.
AFA China is concerned ... supposedly they have kompromat on the whole Biden money-siphoning operation. As do the Russians. The transnationals ...they STILL want to make their $$$ in China and other cheap-labor nations. Also, they want their banking operations to extend into China. I don't believe the Chinese will allow western banks access to the Chinese economy, and I suspect that they no longer want to be making goods for Walmart at rock bottom prices because it doesn't do their economy any good: why split most of the profits with Apple?
So the USA transnationalists will be scrounging for other cheap-labor nations and other financial structures to invade.
Not that it will do the average USA worker any good, especially since Biden will opn the doors to immigrants from the south.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, just to be clear that we are in agreement on this, SECOND, just because the SCOTUS decided not to intervene in the election DOES NOT MEAN that the election was fair.
Whatever, Russian troll. You are, and always have been full of shit.
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Trump Orders Space Force to Discover Other Planets with Courts
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-orders-space-for
ce-to-discover-other-planets-with-courts?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenewsletter_Borowitz_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Borowitz_121220&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bdf44f92a077c67cd7cb6b2&cndid=55358054&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Borowitz
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a sign that he is not ready to give up his legal challenge to the 2020 election, Donald J. Trump has ordered the United States Space Force to discover other planets that have courts.
With his legal options on this planet dwindling, Trump is placing all of his hopes on identifying another planet that might have intergalactic jurisdiction over Earth.
On the heels of his Space Force announcement, astronomers expressed deep skepticism that a planet with a functioning legal system could be located before the Electoral College casts its votes on Monday.
But, in a sentiment shared by many Republicans, Senator Kelly Loeffler, of Georgia, said that she “totally supports” Trump’s decision to seek justice on another planet. “Let’s let the process play out,” she said.
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A Democratic representative asked Pelosi to 'refuse to seat' any House members who supported Trump's election lawsuits
https://www.businessinsider.com/pascrell-asks-pelosi-exclude-house-mem
bers-supported-election-lawsuits-2020-12?utm_source=reddit.com
"The text of the 14th Amendment expressly forbids Members of Congress from engaging in rebellion against the United States," Pascrell said. "Trying to overturn a democratic election and install a dictator seems like a pretty clear example of that."
He's got a point. Hang 'em high!
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Thanks for your posts, Signy.
If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.
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Quote:I love it when REAVERBOT is reduced to calling me a Russian troll. The lower REAVERBOT sinks, the better I must be doing.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, just to be clear that we are in agreement on this, SECOND, just because the SCOTUS decided not to intervene in the election DOES NOT MEAN that the election was fair.
Whatever, Russian troll. You are, and always have been full of shit.
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Quote:I love it when REAVERBOT is reduced to calling me a Russian troll. The lower REAVERBOT sinks, the better I must be doing.
Originally posted by SignyM:
You're doing a terrible job, Russian troll.
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CONFIRMED: Dominion voting machines in Georgia were remotely controlled during election... foreign interference now a FACT
https://www.distributednews.com/481696.html
More confirmation has emerged to show that Dominion Voting Systems machines in Georgia were, in fact, connected to the internet and communicating with third parties on election night. Contradicting what Dominion spokesman Michael Steel falsely claimed on Nov. 22, expert witness Col. Phil Waldron told Rudy Giuliani during more recent questioning that Dominion machines were designed with "many access points to the internet." "These machines are connected to the internet," Waldron stated. "Dominion user manual instructs how. Server traffic showed connections." Steel, on the other hand, told Fox News the exact opposite. When asked if a poll worker could use a USB thumb drive to add or remove votes from a candidate, Steel claimed that vote tabulators do not have such access because Dominion machines do not connect to the internet. "It's not physically possible to do what they're describing," he reiterated, adding that an algorithm was not used to alter the "weight" of votes in favor of Joe Biden.
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Overall, we rate Distributed News an extreme right biased Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy website that also publishes pseudoscience. This source is associated with Natural News, which is one of the most discredited sources on the internet.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/distributed-news/
They're just spouting nonsense. Like our Russian trolls do.
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Thanks for your posts, Signy. They are always a happy island of facts and civility in this cesspool where non-stop trolling, libel, and propaganda are the norm.
If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.
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Quote:You're doing a terrible job, Russian troll.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:I love it when REAVERBOT is reduced to calling me a Russian troll. The lower REAVERBOT sinks, the better I must be doing.
Originally posted by SignyM:
He's sunk even further! Now he's calling me a TERRIBLE Rusian troll!
HAHAHAHA!!!
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Congressman Brian Babin, 36th Congressional District of Texas, is Requesting President Trump Order the DOJ to Appoint a Special Counsel
I joined my colleagues in asking President Trump to order the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to investigate the many irregularities that occurred in the November elections. Americans deserve the truth and unfortunately Attorney General Barr has been unwilling to step up.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/12/09/27-house-republicans-demand-spe
cial-counsel-appointed-to-investigate-election-irregularities/
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Quote:You are truly the epitome of decorum.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Thanks for your posts, Signy. They are always a happy island of facts and civility in this cesspool where non-stop trolling, libel, and propaganda are the norm. And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.
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Trump’s GOP lackeys have ‘all drunk the Kool Aid. It just hasn’t killed them yet’
Some Republican leaders delivered a withering assessment of the 126 G.O.P. House members and 18 attorneys general who chose to side with Mr. Trump over the democratic process, by backing a lawsuit that asked the Supreme Court to throw out some 20 million votes in four key states that cemented the president’s loss.
“The act itself by the 126 members of the United States House of Representatives, is an affront to the country,” said Michael Steele, the former chairman of the Republican National Committee. “It’s an offense to the Constitution and it leaves an indelible stain that will be hard for these 126 members to wipe off their political skin for a long time to come.”
With direct buy-in from senior officials like Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and the Republican leader in House, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, it meant that Republican leaders now stand for a new notion: that the final decisions of voters can be challenged without a basis in fact if the results are not to the liking of the losing side, running counter to decades of work by the United States to convince developing nations that peaceful transfers of power are key to any freely elected government’s credibility.
“From a global perspective this certainly looks like many of the cases we’ve seen around the world where an incumbent tries to hold onto power," said Michael Abramowitz, president of Freedom House, a Washington-based group that promotes democracy abroad with support from both parties.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2020/12/12/trumps-gop-lackeys-have-al
l-drunk-the-kool-aid-it-just-hasnt-killed-them-yet/
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I was amused by this tweet that is going into history books for The Biggest Lie Of Trump's Life. He can be proud of himself for proving that there are no limits to what some will believe:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners, and many others voted illegally. Also, machine “glitches” (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, “stuffing the ballot box”, votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!
4:49 PM · Dec 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1338254785666043908
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Trump Has Never Believed in Democracy
He wants to wield power without winning it legitimately.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/opinion/donald-trump-election.html
The presidency gave Trump something he always craved but never possessed: constant attention and real, legitimate power. And, once tasted, power is craved forever. Trump has never believed in American democracy. He was never a student of history. He was never really a patriot. Trump wants to operate a dictatorship behind a veil of democracy. He wants to wield power without winning it legitimately. He wants to manipulate his mob and prioritize it above the masses who oppose him. Yes, Trump is attempting a coup, whether or not you want to call it that. But, no matter what you choose to call something, it will still be what it is.
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Trump has realized that trying to steal the presidency is more lucrative than actually being president, so he won’t stop. We are witnessing one of the greatest grifts in the history of the presidency.
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Fake election was the coup.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:I see that bookmakers keep taking bets about Trump. He is at 3% chance of winning a second term. 6ix, keep believing that a fake election will end with justice for Trump and Biden in jail. I know Texas Trump voters who believe he will be vindicated and stay for another 4 years. 3% chance is better than nothing:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fake election was the coup.
https://odds.watch/trump-2020
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Fake election was the coup.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:Funny how Trump can't convince any judges he appointed that the election was stolen. Trump can't even convince his Attorney General that anything was stolen. Barr told a source that he was not “intimidated” by the president. "Barr cannot be intimidated by Trump. This is the real story. None of this matters - it's the deposed king ranting. Irrelevant to the course of justice and to Trump's election loss."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fake election was the coup.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/bill-barr-t
rump-election-biden-b1772174.html
Judges hearing Trump's cases are disrespecting his certainty he is a winner
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I was amused by this tweet that is going into history books for The Biggest Lie Of Trump's Life. He can be proud of himself for proving that there are no limits to what some will believe:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners, and many others voted illegally. Also, machine “glitches” (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, “stuffing the ballot box”, votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!
4:49 PM · Dec 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1338254785666043908
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Remember when Trump said that Trump Tower was "wiretapped",and it was derided as "fake news"?Well, except for the archaic term that he used, he was essentally correct.
Remember when Hunter Biden's laptop was derided as "Russian disinformation", and now we find out that EVEN THEN, Biden was the subject of FOUR investigations?
Remember when the media blared that "Russia" had "stolen" the DNC emails, even tho Crowdstrike (the private entity that had exmained their servers) secretly testified to the GOP=controlled Senate months and months before it became a story) that they had NO SUCH EVIDENCE?
The news, the DC swamp, the FIB... they claim that truth is a lies, and lies are truth. Just, yanno, invert what they say and you'll have a clearer picture.
Everything that Trump tweeted is true. The only thing that will set the next election right is if Legislatures and Governors and Secretaries of State REQUIRE a vote procedure that is secure and auditable. We've had at least three examples of stolen elections since 2000 (GWB, GWB, and Biden) but the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election.
PEOPLE need to take over government, again. We need a populist uprising (and no, I don't mean with guns.)
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
"Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners, and many others voted illegally. Also, machine “glitches” (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, “stuffing the ballot box”, votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!
IOWs: "PLEASE CONTINUE TO DONATE TO MY CAMPAIGN!"
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Remember when Trump said that Trump Tower was "wiretapped",and it was derided as "fake news"?Well, except for the archaic term that he used, he was essentally correct.
Remember when Hunter Biden's laptop was derided as "Russian disinformation", and now we find out that EVEN THEN, Biden was the subject of FOUR investigations?
Hillary had 7? 8? that failed - remember those? But whatever - throw his ass in jail if he's guilty. I know - it's not about his GUILT! It's about using him to stain his dad. Gee, not at all obvious.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Remember when the media blared that "Russia" had "stolen" the DNC emails, even tho Crowdstrike (the private entity that had exmained their servers) secretly testified to the GOP=controlled Senate months and months before it became a story) that they had NO SUCH EVIDENCE?
The news, the DC swamp, the FIB... they claim that truth is a lies, and lies are truth. Just, yanno, invert what they say and you'll have a clearer picture.
Everything that Trump tweeted is true. The only thing that will set the next election right is if Legislatures and Governors and Secretaries of State REQUIRE a vote procedure that is secure and auditable. We've had at least three examples of stolen elections since 2000 (GWB, GWB, and Biden) but the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election.
Remember when you weren't such a lying troll? I actually can. What happened?
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
PEOPLE need to take over government, again. We need a populist uprising (and no, I don't mean with guns.)
Mark the calendar - SIGNYM ^just called for civil war. They must have re-upped your contract.
Oh, btw - interesting news:
https://bit.ly/2KoQkA8
CISA issues rare emergency directive after suspected Russian hacking campaign
The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued an "emergency directive" late Sunday requiring all federal civilian agencies to review their networks and immediately disconnect SolarWinds Orion software products, following a suspected Russian hack on the Treasury and Commerce Department.
Why it matters: It's only the fifth time since 2015 that the Department of Homeland Security has issued such a directive, per AP, underscoring the concerns officials have about an operation that one cybersecurity expert warned could turn out to be "one of the most impactful espionage campaigns on record."
The big picture: News of the hack came less than week after cybersecurity company FireEye revealed that nation-state hackers had penetrated its network and stolen its hacking its tools.
The Washington Post reported that the Russian hacking group APT29, also known as Cozy Bear and believed to have ties to Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), is behind the campaign.
SolarWinds, the company whose software is believed to have been compro
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I see comrade sig is still posting unsubstantiated and taken out of context crap. It probably comes from ZHedge. If not then from one of her many other bullshit sources; russia maybe. It shows she knows the post to be lies and she knows if she sources it we'll all know. Sorry comrade, we already know.
Brace yourselves; she'll now post other stories from mainstream media regarding what shes' posted as though they back her claims. No, they won't because what she posted are stories where shes' changed the context to imply something other than what the legit stories report. In her latest claim, what she claims to be relevant "connected" to the original story, is in fact not even thinly related.
Is there anybody here who posts honestly that doesn't know she has done this again and again for years. Shes' certainly been doing this since my arrival.
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Quote:Signym, "Everything that Trump tweeted is true"? Is this tweet true from today?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Everything that Trump tweeted is true. The only thing that will set the next election right is if Legislatures and Governors and Secretaries of State REQUIRE a vote procedure that is secure and auditable. We've had at least three examples of stolen elections since 2000 (GWB, GWB, and Biden) but the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
“Why did the Swing States stop counting in the middle of the night?”
@MariaBartiromo
Because they waited to find out how many ballots they had to produce in order to steal the Rigged Election. They were so far behind that they needed time, & a fake “water main break”, to recover!
7:57 AM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1338483200046354434
Signym, I tried to verify the truth of this tweet, but the only thing true about it is @MariaBartiromo actually does work at FOX News. As for the rest, it is make believe.
https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo
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I see nobody has addressed the CONTENT of Signy's post.
As usual.
Just more libel, trolling, lies, and misdirection from the usual suspects. (TUS)
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Quote:Signym attached no URL's to back wild claims made, especially this claim: "the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election." Where is Signym's "evidence"? If the Ds and Rs are colluding about who wins which post, that is a hundred thousand elections. There should be plenty of evidence, if Signym was truthful.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I see nobody has addressed the CONTENT of Signy's post.
As usual.
Just more libel, trolling, lies, and misdirection from the usual suspects. (TUS)
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** MY ** question ** STILL ** is - why are no politicos of either party calling for statistical evaluation of this election?
Or for reform after the Mitofsky report? Yanno CalTech/ MIT has a lot of things they said needed to be done. Not that anybody in government followed up ...
Or after the Bush/ Gore election and the hanging chad fiasco with the suspicious electronic voting machine numbers.
So, let me post, again, what I've been posting all along ...
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
I'm still waiting for them to prove that they are different - and better. I've been waiting for over a decade.
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Quote:The House on Friday passed a massive voting rights, campaign-finance and ethics reform package — a centerpiece of the new Democratic majority’s agenda. The bill, known as H.R. 1 and dubbed the For the People Act by Democrats, was approved on a party-line 234-193 vote. (That means none of the Republicans voted for it. Mitch McConnell killed this bill in the Senate.)
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
** MY ** question ** STILL ** is - why are no politicos of either party calling for statistical evaluation of this election?
Or for reform after the Mitofsky report? Yanno CalTech/ MIT has a lot of things they said needed to be done. Not that anybody in government followed up ...
Or after the Bush/ Gore election and the hanging chad fiasco with the suspicious electronic voting machine numbers.
So, let me post, again, what I've been posting all along ...
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
I'm still waiting for them to prove that they are different - and better. I've been waiting for over a decade.
www.politico.com/story/2019/03/08/house-passes-sweeping-election-refor
m-bill-1212693
The Democrats have tried a million times and the Republicans always kill voting reform: https://www.google.com/search?q=voting+reform+legislation
1kiki, remember this? And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
If the Democrats want better results, they need bring their guns into Congress. Simply exercising the Democrats' 2nd Amendment rights would go a long way toward better government. Mitch McConnell needs to be reminded that Democrats can kill a Republican . . . bill as easily as Mitch kills Democrats' election reform.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The House on Friday passed a massive voting rights, campaign-finance and ethics reform package
Sure. Whatever.
Meanwhile - HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT NOT ONE DEMOCRAT* POLITICO HAS EVER BEEN INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO VARIOUS ELECTIONS AND THEIR MANY STATISTICAL ABNORMALITIES? Not 2000, not 2004, and not 2020? NOT ONE.
And not at all interested in what the best minds at MIT/ JPL have to say about the simple, mechanical process of just getting reliable vote counts?
But HEY! when it comes to passing mindless VIRTUE SIGNALLING LEGISLATION (that will never become law, and for which the democrats* will never be held accountable) instead of crafting sturdy problem-solving procedures, DEMOCRATS* ARE ALL OVER IT !!!!
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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