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Election Fraud Debunking Megathread

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UPDATED: Saturday, April 22, 2023 19:24
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Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:59 PM

Trump campaign dismisses last remaining lawsuit in Michigan as voter fraud claims widely debunked
President’s personal lawyer continues promoting false claims while pulling out of key lawsuit
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/tru
mp-election-lawsuit-michigan-wayne-county-b1747038.html?utm_source=reddit.com


President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign has dismissed its final lawsuit against the electoral process in Michigan on Thursday, as multiple challenges the campaign filed have recently been tossed out of federal courts in key states.

The president’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who is leading the campaign’s battle against the national vote, falsely claimed in a statement: “This morning we are withdrawing our lawsuit in Michigan as a direct result of achieving the relief we sought: to stop the election in Wayne County from being prematurely certified before residents can be assured that every legal vote has been counted.”

However, the board did in fact vote to certify the results of the election.


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Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:14 PM

Trump personally called two Republicans who now oppose certifying Detroit-area votes
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/tru
mp-election-michigan-vote-wayne-county-b1747100.html?utm_source=reddit.com





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Friday, November 20, 2020 12:56 AM

Stacey Abrams Says Reason Republicans Are 'So Mad' About Election Is That Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
https://www.newsweek.com/stacey-abrams-says-reason-republicans-are-so-
mad-about-election-that-their-voter-suppression-1548765


"It's important that we understand that voter suppression being stopped is why they are so mad," Abrams told The Cut's Rebecca Traister. "Republicans had a plan for stopping voters from getting to the polls. We beat them in multiple states and flipped the outcome. The margins are small because the outcome can be undone very quickly."

Abrams said Republicans "have fought tirelessly to silence the voices of voters who do not support them" long before this election, but she is not deterred by President Donald Trump's numerous legal battles and efforts to delegitimize the presidential race.

"So while I am disappointed by the reckless actions of Donald Trump, Lindsey Graham, and others, I am not surprised," she said. "None of the GOP's voter-suppression tactics will change the results of the election."


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Friday, November 20, 2020 1:04 AM

Michigan Judge Rejects Challenge to Detroit Election Results
https://www.courthousenews.com/michigan-judge-rejects-challenge-to-det
roit-election-results
/

Finding that two voters’ claims about election fraud lack credibility, a Michigan judge on Friday shut down a lawsuit demanding an audit of results in the Detroit area.


KAREN MAD!


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Friday, November 20, 2020 1:11 AM

Giuliani in Public: ‘It’s a Fraud.’ Giuliani in Court: ‘This Is Not a Fraud Case.’
Keep an eye on what President Trump’s lawyers say about supposed voter fraud while they’re in an actual courtroom.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/us/politics/trump-giuliani-voter-fr
aud.html



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Friday, November 20, 2020 1:45 AM

Donald Trump’s Effort To Steal The Election Is Comically Stupid — And Extremely Dangerous
Trump’s last scandal may be his greatest, and his stupidest.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-steal-election-2020_n_5fb5
ae9dc5b664958c7d69fc


Donald Trump is no stranger to comically stupid scandals.

He was impeached for an open attempt to illegally leverage congressionally approved military aid so a newly elected Ukrainian president would investigate rival Joe Biden and announce it on television. “Stupid Watergate,” HBO’s John Oliver called it.

It’s no surprise, then, that Trump’s blatant and racist effort to steal an election he lost by at least 58 electoral votes (pending the outcome of the recount in Georgia, where Biden leads by over 12,000 votes) and 5.8 million popular votes — and counting — is also really, really stupid.

First, Trump telegraphed the entire scheme to steal the election ahead of time, like a Bond villain explaining his entire plot, thus exposing the true purpose of his ensuing frivolous lawsuits. If it looked like he would lose, he planned to claim that late-counted absentee ballots were fraudulent and illegal and to file lawsuits to stop the certification of results in states where he trailed. The hope then was that Republican-controlled legislatures or governors would just hand him their state’s electoral votes. Whether or not this was legal didn’t seem to matter.

Those lawsuits claiming election and voter fraud have almost all been laughed out of court in embarrassing fashion after Trump’s own lawyers admitted they had no evidence of said fraud. Republican state lawmakers all said they wouldn’t be switching electoral votes to Trump. Law firms then dropped Trump as pressure mounted for them not to help him undermine democracy, which left former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani to step in as counsel.

Giuliani delivered a performance worthy of the bumbling Simpsons lawyer Lionel Hutz in which he lied about his standing with the District of Columbia Bar, rambled about the long-dead Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, demonstrated an incapacity to understand basic legal practices and could not properly define the word “opacity.”

“I’m not sure what ‘opacity’ means,” Giuliani said. “It probably means you can see.”

“It means you can’t,” Judge Matthew Brann corrected the former prosecutor.

It’s easy to laugh at a former mayor who was recently caught with his hand down his pants in a “Borat” movie be-clowning himself in court.

But just because this is all incredibly dumb and has no chance of successfully overturning Biden’s win doesn’t mean it’s not incredibly dangerous. The entire scheme involves the delegitimization and disenfranchisement of voters in predominantly Black municipalities.

It undermines his supporters’ faith in democracy. And it could be used in years to come to justify unnecessary and damaging voting restrictions that would disproportionately affect Black voters.

Political partisans often feel like elections were stolen from them. Shock and disbelief are, after all, the first stage of grief. But never before has a president of the United States led the charge in creating that false impression. Nor has any prior president refused to abide by the peaceful transfer of power inaugurated first by President George Washington’s decision not to run for a third term and President John Adams’ peaceful transfer to Thomas Jefferson after the two ran against each other in 1800.

Trump has turned this 200-year-plus tradition, the bedrock of American democracy, on its head through a disinformation campaign designed to maintain his power within the Republican Party and its aligned media system.

Like everything else Trump has done as president, his entire scheme to steal the election is not meant to succeed in reality — reality, in this case, being judged by actual courts and judges. It is, rather, intended to succeed on television or social media by making his supporters believe that Trump lost due to fraud and not think of him as a loser.

So far, it is working. The

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Friday, November 20, 2020 1:59 AM

Trump Campaign Is 1-29 in Post-Election Lawsuits After Latest Defeat
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-1-29-post-election-lawsuits-af
ter-latest-defeat-1548791


So far, the only case in which the Trump campaign has scored a victory is one filed in Pennsylvania. In that case, the time frame in which election officials allowed voters to resolve problems with mail-in ballots that were initially rejected because they lacked voter identification was reduced from nine to six days.


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Friday, November 20, 2020 2:09 AM

Rudy Giuliani straight-up asked a federal judge to ignore Pennsylvania voters and declare Trump won the state
https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-asks-federal-judge-ignore-vot
ers-declare-trump-pennsylvania-winner-2020-11?utm_source=reddit.com



It didn't work.




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Friday, November 20, 2020 6:26 AM

Trump Sued a Homeless Vet Because She's a Nevada Biden Elector and She Just Shut Him Down
https://secondnexus.com/donald-trump-gabrielle-dayr-vet

I am an elector for the state of Nevada. I am a United States Navy veteran and I am homeless. You're suing me, an individual, for faithfully serving the people of Nevada. Whatever you think you've got, bring it. You will not win. You're a coward.
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Damn. Trump is low. Lower than dogshit.


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Friday, November 20, 2020 6:48 AM

Lindsey Graham’s Alleged Attempt to Toss Georgia Ballots Is Felony Election Fraud
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/lindsey-graham-brad-raffen
sperger-georgia-election-fraud.html


Graham’s alleged request is unseemly and corrupt. But is it criminal? In short, yes, according to multiple Georgia election law experts. If Raffensperger’s account is true, there is virtually no doubt that Graham committed a crime under Georgia law. The more difficult question is whether Graham will suffer any consequences for his alleged offense. Because he is a Republican and a sitting U.S. senator, Graham likely won’t face an investigation, let alone prosecution, for conduct that would get almost anyone else arrested. It might be tempting to dismiss Graham’s alleged interference as unscrupulous strategizing blown out of proportion. But Georgia has a sordid history of prosecuting putative voter fraud involving far more innocent conduct. Graham does not deserve a pass simply because he is a wealthy white senator.
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If he were a Democrat, his own party would take him down. They'd be fine with his gayness, too.

Since he's a Republican, he just fails upward.


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Friday, November 20, 2020 5:34 PM

Amy Siskind: "Biden up to 79,231,896 popular votes. And his overall lead up to 3.8% and nearing 6 million votes! Biden 51.0% Trump 47.2% Stop calling this a close race. It's not!"
https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1329126827491799040

The more they count, the wider his lead gets.




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Friday, November 20, 2020 5:55 PM

Deadhead joke.




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Friday, November 20, 2020 6:11 PM




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Friday, November 20, 2020 6:24 PM


Rudy just humiliated himself better than Borat ever could, and Republicans are still gonna pretend that this clown should be taken seriously.




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Friday, November 20, 2020 6:50 PM

Trump is the true perpetrator of election fraud
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/opinions/trump-perpetuate-election-frau
d-michigan-douglas/index.html


Yes, there is election fraud. It's coming from inside the White House.

President Donald Trump's attempts to steal the election and win another term are exceedingly unlikely to work. But he is already succeeding in undermining key democratic norms on which our society functions by questioning the results without evidence, falsely alleging voter fraud, and, according to the Washington Post, even reaching out to a local election official charged with certifying results.

Trump, who clearly lost the presidential election by large electoral and popular vote margins, has filed lawsuits in numerous battleground states that have largely gone nowhere. He has lied about massive voter fraud, which doesn't exist. His lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, even suggested that his goal is to delay certification of the results, enabling Republican legislators to thwart the will of the people and simply award Trump the Electoral College votes he needs to win -- an anti-democratic idea that is bound to fail given statements from Republican legislators in key states and Democratic governors who won't go along with attempts to undermine the electoral process.

And perhaps in the most egregious action to date, Trump personally called Republican Monica Palmer, a local election official in Wayne County, Michigan, after which she sought to change her vote on whether to certify the results.

Post-election certification is typically a routine, ministerial process. The election officials check the vote totals and declare the winner. But nothing is routine when the President of the United States actively seeks to undermine our democracy.


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Friday, November 20, 2020 7:06 PM




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Friday, November 20, 2020 7:49 PM




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Friday, November 20, 2020 8:31 PM

On the official donald trump youtube stream they accidentally left their audio on and you can hear the team there say "you see fucking rudy's hair dye dripping down his face?"

https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1329492698680619008?s=21

Rudy is so batshit in this press conference that I’m convinced he’s becoming a viable candidate for the Republican nomination in 2024.


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Friday, November 20, 2020 9:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
On the official donald trump youtube stream they accidentally left their audio on and you can hear the team there say "you see fucking rudy's hair dye dripping down his face?"

https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1329492698680619008?s=21

Rudy is so batshit in this press conference that I’m convinced he’s becoming a viable candidate for the Republican nomination in 2024.




He looks sick as sh*t - maybe the coomph has him. He's a good candidate for a baggie.

Another nutter - wish I could say he was unusual. Could be Sidney Powell's brother.



"They're trying to tear down America..." with their free health care, religious freedom, and respect for all people!

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Friday, November 20, 2020 10:27 PM

If you take a step back and realize that Trump’s head attorney leading this overthrow of the election worked with Russian intelligence this year and two of the other attorneys were on the payroll of a senior Russian mafia associate, all of this becomes much simpler to understand.
https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1329618655974330368?ref_src=t
wsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1329618655974330368%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fjxp81s%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse



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Friday, November 20, 2020 10:32 PM

Trump’s Lawyer Sidney Powell Is Hardcore QAnon
Her performance at Thursday's press conference was virtually a recitation of QAnon’s greatest hits.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx8n8w/trumps-lawyer-sidney-powell-is-
hardcore-qanon?utm_source=reddit.com


“What we are really dealing with here, and uncovering more by the day, is the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States.”

What followed was virtually a recitation of QAnon’s greatest hits, and Powell ended her tirade almost in tears, essentially telling those listening to “stick to the plan,” a phrase that has become a QAnon rallying cry since Trump lost the election.

“We are not going to back down,” she said. “We are going to clean this mess up now. President Trump won by a landslide. We are going to prove it, and we are going to reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for freedom.”

The comments were essentially a dog whistle to the QAnon community, which has been waging a disinformation war on social media since the election earlier this month, helping to boost conspiracy theories that have made their way to the Oval Office.


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Friday, November 20, 2020 10:40 PM

Georgia confirms Biden victory and finds no widespread fraud after statewide audit
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-resul
ts/index.html





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Friday, November 20, 2020 11:20 PM




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Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

He looks sick as sh*t - maybe the coomph has him. He's a good candidate for a baggie.

Another nutter - wish I could say he was unusual. Could be Sidney Powell's brother.

"They're trying to tear down America..." with their free health care, religious freedom, and respect for all people!

Actor Jon Voight said that Biden is evil and this is the greatest fight since the Civil War. The Confederates said the same about Lincoln, that he is evil and this is the greatest fight since the Revolution against King George III.



In a July 28, 2008 op-ed in The Washington Times, Jon Voight wrote that he regretted his youthful anti-war activism, and claimed that the peace movement of that time was driven by "Marxist propaganda". He also claimed that the radicals in the peace movement were responsible for the communists coming to power in Vietnam and Cambodia and for failing to stop the subsequent slaughter of 1.5 million people in the Killing Fields.[23]

In the same op-ed he also criticized the Democratic Party and Barack Obama's bid to become president, claiming that the Democrats had created "a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure (Obama)" who would "demoralize this country and help create a socialist America".[23] He claimed that Obama had grown up with the teachings of very angry, militant white and black people around him.[23]

In November 2020, after the United States presidential election in which the Democratic candidate Joe Biden was announced as the winner, Voight released a statement through his Twitter account, in which he stated he was "disgusted with [the] lie that Biden has been chosen, as if we all don't know the truth." He further implied without evidence that Biden had committed electoral fraud and proclaimed that America was engaged in "our greatest fight since the Civil War - the battle of righteousness versus Satan, because these leftists are evil, corrupt, and they want to tear down this nation." He finished the statement by imploring his followers to fight for Trump's reinstatement as President.[29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Voight#Political_views

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:23 AM

More GOP Senators Have COVID Than Have Acknowledged That Joe Biden Won
The deadly virus has taken hold more than reality.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republican-senators-covid-joe-biden-ele
ction_n_5fb7d9bbc5b6f6adf949f36b


Rick Scott of Florida announced Friday that he has tested positive for COVID-19, making him the seventh GOP senator infected by the deadly disease. The others are Chuck Grassley (Iowa), Mike Lee (Utah), Bill Cassidy (La.), Rand Paul (Ky.), Thom Tillis (N.C.) and Ron Johnson (Wis.). Paul was the first to test positive, back in March; Grassley and Scott revealed their infections this week.
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Couldn't happen to a slimier bunch of traitors.


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Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:29 AM

Trump's legal team seemingly didn't notice its allegation of election fraud in Michigan is based on data from Minnesota
https://theweek.com/speedreads/951166/trumps-legal-team-seemingly-didn
t-notice-allegation-election-fraud-michigan-based-data-from-minnesota



Trump's people keep filing stupid lawsuits, and keep losing. As I type this, their record is 1-32. So why do they keep doing this? Because they want to lose even MORE of them.

In the fevered minds of the trumptards, it is all about conspiracies. And what greater conspiracy can there be, than that the Deep State stole the election from Trump? It will be spun to his acolytes and supplicants that each and every one of these many lawsuits were backed up by thousands of pages of meticulously chronicled crimes, yet the Deep State dismissed them with a wave of their collective hand.

Trump knows he lost the election. But he also knows that he will maintain control of the power as the head of what-used-to-be-called the GOP, by feeding his base this unending stream of bullshit.




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Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:34 AM

Tucker Carlson EXCOMMUNICATED From Trump Cult for Asking Too Many Questions



Trump cultists don't need evidence. They just go with their feels.


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Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:48 PM

Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell: I Didn’t Provide Evidence to Tucker Carlson Because He Was ‘Rude’
OR BECAUSE YOU HAVE NONE?
On Thursday, Carlson told his viewers that Powell refused to provide any evidence to him to back her outlandish claims that millions of votes were stolen by corrupt software.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-i-didnt-provi
de-evidence-to-tucker-carlson-because-he-was-rude



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Saturday, November 21, 2020 5:11 PM

Biden's margin of victory over Trump surpasses 6 million votes
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/biden-6-million-votes/index.ht
ml





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Saturday, November 21, 2020 6:10 PM

Michigan and Georgia Republicans Just Crushed Trump’s Coup Dreams
But they were sad about it.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqpp3/michigan-and-georgia-republican
s-just-crushed-trumps-coup-dreams?utm_source=reddit.com


We may have just seen the end of the world’s lamest coup attempt.

Key Republican officials in Michigan and Georgia made clear Friday evening that they wouldn’t try to step in to overturn their states’ election results, dealing a blow to President Trump’s hopes and demands that they undo President-elect Joe Biden’s wins in their states.

The biggest moment came from Michigan’s GOP legislative leaders, who after being summoned to Washington, D.C. to meet with Trump issued a joint statement declaring that they’d seen no evidence that electoral fraud had given Biden his nearly 150,000-vote win in their state and promised to follow the law in not trying to appoint electors for Trump.

“We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors, just as we have said throughout this election,” Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey and House Speaker Lee Chatfield said in a joint statement after meeting with Trump at the White House.


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Saturday, November 21, 2020 6:20 PM

Arizona’s largest county certifies Biden win over Trump
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-arizon
a-phoenix-5642a850384031d162351f4e3983da85


Protesters marched outside the board chambers urging members not to approve the canvass, but Republican Chairman Clint Hickman said there’s no question about the accuracy of the count and no legal reason not to certify it.

“In a free democracy elections result in some people’s candidates losing,” Hickman said, “I was disappointed in the outcome of a couple races and I was extremely happy with the outcome in others. But I’m not going to violate the law or deviate from my own moral compass as some have pushed me to do.”

The Arizona Republican Party had asked a court to order an audit of a larger sample of ballots, saying there were questions about the counts, but a judge in Phoenix threw out that effort Thursday.
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Here in the real world, Biden won.


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Saturday, November 21, 2020 8:02 PM

Why Republican voters say there’s ‘no way in hell’ Trump lost
https://in.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fraud-insight-idU
SKBN2801D4


In Reuters interviews with 50 Trump voters, all said they believed the election was rigged or in some way illegitimate. Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly. Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims. Some have boycotted Fox News out of anger that the network called Biden the election winner and that some of its news anchors - in contrast to its opinion show stars - have been skeptical of Trump’s fraud allegations.

“I just sent Fox News an email,” Fryar said, telling the network: “You’re the only news I’ve watched for the last six years, but I will not watch you anymore.”

The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. The trend has deeply troubling long-term implications for American political and civic institutions, said Paul Light, a veteran political scientist at New York University (NYU).

“This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

Adam Kinzinger, a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives, is among the few party members to publicly recognize Biden’s victory. He called his Republican colleagues’ reluctance to reject Trump’s conspiracies a failure of political courage that threatens to undermine American democracy for years. If citizens lose faith in election integrity, that could lead to “really bad things,” including violence and social unrest, he said in an interview.

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign. The party, the person said, is setting up a push for “far more stringent oversight on voting procedures in 2024,” when the party’s nominee will likely be Trump or his anointed successor.


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THG
Saturday, November 21, 2020 8:05 PM

Who cares what Trumps followers think reaver? Really, who cares? Think about it. Nothing they believe has a base in reality. Why go down that rabbit hole? Knowing, that is where they come from is enough. No need to dissect it. What's important is how to counter that with facts so Biden can get things done. That's where our focus needs to be.

We post facts on the internet. Letting Trumps followers direct our focus towards falsehoods is what Trump does. Let's post what need be posted. Lets not worry about their concerns unless they are legit. This election was the death nil of those who would cry voter fraud. They had their best chance ever this election and it was a complete failure, democracy held. The minority vote is growing exponentially. That will lead to huge changes going forward as well.

In order for the republican party to go forward they will need to address the issues of the minority. Trust me when I say many things learned due to Trump will be addressed so it won't happen again. Laws will be passed in time shoring up our democracy. Things that were taken for granted, i.e. like the republicans putting country first, will no longer be. We need to focus on these and other important issues. Not disgruntled Trump supporters.


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Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:38 PM

Trump Takes Another L: Michigan GOPers Say No To Election Steal
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/donald-trump-election-michigan-repu
blicans


President Donald Trump sought to leverage the power of the Oval Office on Friday in an extraordinary attempt to block President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, but his pleas to Michigan lawmakers to overturn the will of their constituents appeared to have left them unswayed.

Trump summoned a delegation of the battleground state’s Republican leadership, including the Senate majority leader and House speaker, in an apparent extension of his efforts to persuade judges and election officials to set aside Biden’s 154,000-vote margin of victory and grant Trump the state’s electors. It came amid mounting criticism that Trump’s futile efforts to subvert the results of the 2020 election could do long-lasting damage to democratic traditions.


Trump’s efforts extended to other states that Biden carried as well, amounting to an unprecedented attempt by a sitting president to maintain his grasp on power, or in failure, to delegitimize his opponent’s victory in the eyes of his army of supporters.


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Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:42 PM

Trump supporters in Georgia vow to destroy the Republican Party if Trump doesn't win
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1330079395483164673?s=20

Boycott the run-off vote! Or better yet, VOTE TRUMP! MAGA!




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Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:01 PM




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THG
Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:17 AM

If Trumps supporters write in Trump instead of voting for the republican senate candidate then the Dems
will surly control the senate. Yippee, I'm glad so many of his followers are morons.

T



Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

Trump supporters in Georgia vow to destroy the Republican Party if Trump doesn't win
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1330079395483164673?s=20

Boycott the run-off vote! Or better yet, VOTE TRUMP! MAGA!








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Sunday, November 22, 2020 2:55 AM

Crying Wolf on Election Fraud Is OK at NYT—if Targets Are Official Enemies
https://fair.org/home/crying-wolf-on-election-fraud-is-ok-at-nyt-if-ta
rgets-are-official-enemies
/

Higgins asserted that, like Trump, Maduro “fraudulently manufactured a victory in a May 2018 election,” a claim that has as little basis in reality as Trump’s claim to have actually won the 2020 presidential race. Unlike the US, the Venezuelan election featured a timely vote, with state-of-the-art voting machines that were watched over by hundreds of distinguished international observers, whose reports attest to the process’ cleanliness (FAIR.org, 5/23/18). Maduro won more than 4 million more votes than his closest competitor—an unsurprising result (PAP, 5/20/18), due to widespread boycotting of the balloting and a split in the remaining opposition vote between two candidates.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:13 AM




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Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:18 AM

Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT.
Because apparently NOBODY - neither 'winners' not 'losers' - cared to address its findings.
Quote:

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
Quote:

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:27 AM

No, Venezuelan communists did not interfere in the election. Yes, Trump’s legal team claimed that.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/2020-election/ct-fact-check-t
rump-election-voter-fraud-20201121-nbysni6emvde7e7ekyrubdqguu-story.html


President Donald Trump’s flailing attempt to cling to office after voters decisively chose to oust him has taken the country into a dark and fictional place.

According to falsehoods being told on his behalf and embraced by him, the U.S. election was manipulated by scheming from a dead Venezuelan strongman, by a computer system capable of flipping Trump votes to Joe Biden ones across the country, and by something weird happening in Germany. If that’s not enough, the communists are coming.

None of this happened. None of it is true.

But Trump and his legal team are making poisonous allegations in hopes that state Republican legislators will shatter the foundational procedures and traditions of U.S. democracy and nullify the voters’ will.

While this plays out, President-elect Biden continues to be denied the briefings and facilities given during presidential transitions. An increasing number of Republican lawmakers say he should be getting that cooperation but they haven’t done anything to make that happen.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT. Apparently NOBODY cared to address it
Quote:

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
Quote:

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
The defang that push AND REPAIR THE VOTE.



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

Cope harder!

Trumptards have demonstrated repeatedly that they'll ignore facts and believe lies. It's just what they do. You can show them evidence all day long, and they'll ignore it.

They rely entirely on their feelings, nothing else. No amount of facts and evidence can change that reality.

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:33 AM

Trump has longstanding history of calling elections 'rigged' if he doesn’t like the results
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-longstanding-history-calling-ele
ctions-rigged-doesnt-results/story?id=74126926



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:00 AM

No modern presidential candidate has refused to concede. Here’s why that matters.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/no-modern-president
ial-candidate-refused-to-concede-heres-why-that-matters
/




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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:05 AM


Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT.
Because apparently NOBODY - neither 'winners' not 'losers' - cared to address its findings.
Quote:

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
Quote:

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

Why do you continue with your Russian troll bullshit?

You're not making a case, you have no evidence of anything. Just nonsense.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:38 AM

Steven Crowder ATTACKS Tucker Carlson For Questioning Trump Campaign's Voter Fraud Claims!




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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:53 AM


Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT.
Because apparently NOBODY - neither 'winners' not 'losers' - cared to address its findings.
Quote:

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
Quote:

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.

HAVE A THOROUGH, ACADEMIC, NON-PARTISAN STATISTICAL DISSECTION OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.

Why not? Who WOULD be against the facts? And who WOULD be against acting on them?



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:00 AM

^ The sheer fucking nerve of these people on the Left to whine that people think 2020 was rigged when they cried like babies about the exact same goddamned thing for four years themselves AND they got a long, drawn out investigation on taxpayer dime that came up with nothing.

Hypocrisy, personified.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ The sheer fucking nerve of these people on the Left to whine that people think 2020 was rigged when they cried like babies about the exact same goddamned thing for four years themselves AND they got a long, drawn out investigation on taxpayer dime that came up with nothing.

Hypocrisy, personified.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You're a Russian troll. STFU, loser.

if you want truth and facts, read what I post in this thread. I have the luxury of not needing to lie, and no need to misrepresent facts.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:23 AM

Wisconsin officials: Trump observers obstructing recount
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-wiscon
sin-elections-dcb7da95578fc7289122c6d372575a9b


Is anyone surprised? I'm not surprised.

Failed people failing some more.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:30 AM


Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT.
Because apparently NOBODY - neither 'winners' not 'losers' - cared to address its findings.
Quote:

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
Quote:

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.

HAVE A THOROUGH, ACADEMIC, NON-PARTISAN STATISTICAL DISSECTION OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.

Why not? Who WOULD be against the facts? And who WOULD be against acting on them?




And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:54 AM

Stop spamming your irrelevant bullshit, Russian troll.

Trump lost, bigly, and no amount of smoke and mirrors can negate that very real fact.


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THG
Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:56 AM

Lies, fake news...

T


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:59 AM

Building Voter Fraud Conspiracy Theories with Steven Crowder




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Sunday, November 22, 2020 6:02 AM


HAVE A THOROUGH, ACADEMIC, NON-PARTISAN STATISTICAL DISSECTION OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.

Why not? Who WOULD be against the facts? And who WOULD be against acting on them?


Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT.
Because apparently NOBODY - neither 'winners' not 'losers' - cared to address its findings.
Quote:

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
Quote:

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.

HAVE A THOROUGH, ACADEMIC, NON-PARTISAN STATISTICAL DISSECTION OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.

Why not? Who WOULD be against the facts? And who WOULD be against acting on them?




And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 6:09 AM


Dominion Voting Systems ‘Lawyers Up,’ Abruptly Backs Out of PA State House Fact-Finding Hearing
Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee.
At a press conference Friday morning, State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”
https://www.gopusa.com/dominion-voting-systems-lawyers-up-abruptly-bac
ks-out-of-pa-state-house-fact-finding-hearing
/

Facts verified

https://www.abc27.com/news/us-world/politics/election/state-government
-committee-to-hold-virtual-hearing-on-voting-machines
/

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/pa-lawmakers-criticizing-d
ominion-voting-systems-after-it-backs-out-of-hearing/article_6020da90-2ba1-11eb-8420-534f51eeb494.html


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Dominion Voting Systems ‘Lawyers Up,’ Abruptly Backs Out of PA State House Fact-Finding Hearing
Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee.
At a press conference Friday morning, State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”
https://www.gopusa.com/dominion-voting-systems-lawyers-up-abruptly-bac
ks-out-of-pa-state-house-fact-finding-hearing
/

Facts verified

https://www.abc27.com/news/us-world/politics/election/state-government
-committee-to-hold-virtual-hearing-on-voting-machines
/

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/pa-lawmakers-criticizing-d
ominion-voting-systems-after-it-backs-out-of-hearing/article_6020da90-2ba1-11eb-8420-534f51eeb494.html



More made up bullshit that you and your fellow Russian trolls will parade around. Not because there's any facts to it, but because you're all about lying and deception, never truth.

Where do you live, Russian troll?


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:17 PM

'No legal or factual basis' to question election, says Michigan Secretary of State
Michigan attorney general looks at criminal charges for state officials who would overturn election results
Trump has personally reached out to several Republican officials regarding the results of the election
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/michigan
-attorney-general-election-criminal-charges-trump-b1759769.html?utm_source=reddit.com


Michigan was in the spotlight earlier this week when two Republican board members on a canvassing committee in Wayne County refused to certify the results of the 2020 election. After public backlash, the officials buckled and agreed to certify the results.

Mr Trump called the officials on Tuesday night, after which they sought to rescind their vote to certify the election.

Wayne County is the home to the city of Detroit. Refusing to certify the results would result in primarily Democrat and disproportionately Black voters having their legally cast ballots thrown out.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:24 PM

Matthew Brann, Republican judge and member of the Federalist Society, LAUGHS Giuliani and Trump out of court; Pennsylvania Case Dismissed with Prejudice



Get absolutely fucked, Giuliani, you fucking blithering ghoul.




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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:27 PM

Firehose of falsehood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

The firehose of falsehood, or firehosing, is a propaganda technique in which a large number of messages are broadcast rapidly, repetitively, and continuously over multiple channels (such as news and social media) without regard for truth or consistency. Since 2014, when it was successfully used by Russia during its annexation of Crimea, this model has been adopted by other governments and political movements around the world.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:59 PM

Detroit voters sue Donald Trump over unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-22/detroit-voters-sue-donald-trump
-unsubstantiated-fraud-claims/12908186


What goes around comes around.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 6:25 PM

President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani made a rare appearance as an advocate in a courtroom this week in a baseless and hopeless effort to invalidate Joe Biden's victory.

Addressing the former New York City mayor, who was parroting Trump's lie about massive voter fraud, US District Court Judge Matthew Brann posed a devastating question at the hearing on Tuesday.

"You're alleging that the two individual plaintiffs were denied the right to vote. But at bottom, you're asking this court to invalidate more than 6.8 million votes, thereby disenfranchising every single voter in the Commonwealth. Could you tell me how this result could possibly be justified?"

On Saturday, the judge effectively answered his own question by dismissing the lawsuit and saying, "this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations...and unsupported by evidence."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/22/opinions/judges-devastating-question-tr
ump-opinion-galant/index.html


On the Republican side, they would go to war for Trump. They believe Trump’s stream of election-fraud allegations and say they’re preparing for the possibility of a “civil war” with the American political left.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fraud-insight-id
USKBN2801D4


I like that mention of “civil war” by the Texas Republicans. The two worst Presidents in history were just before and after Lincoln and the civil war, James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson. If Trump hits what he is aiming for, another civil war, he moves into the position of worst President in history. MAGA!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the
_United_States


Trump may have significant power to start a civil war after he is out of White House:
How Trump Hopes to Use Party Machinery to Retain Control of the G.O.P.
Ronna McDaniel, a close ally of President Trump, wants to remain head of the Republican National Committee, worrying party members who believe the president will try to use the group to keep control of the G.O.P.
This power play is alarming a number of R.N.C. members, party strategists and former committee aides, who are highly uneasy about ceding control of the committee to a potential candidate in 2024, a step that they fear would shatter the party’s longstanding commitment to neutrality in nominating contests.
www.nytimes.com/2020/11/22/us/trump-gop-control.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:25 PM

Trump tries to drum out GOP election officials who won’t play his games
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger's family has received threats and he expects a primary challenge in 2022.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/trump-gop-elections-challenge
-438938


President Donald Trump has driven senators into retirement and tweeted wayward Republicans into primary defeat during four years leading the GOP. Now, as a lame duck, he’s launched a new campaign against GOP election officials who won’t bend to his will.

Trump’s drive to discredit the results of an election he lost has put him at odds with the Republican elected officials and administrators who oversaw the vote in key states — and called it what it was: a free and fair election. Being at odds with Trump doesn’t go over well in today’s Republican Party, and Trump has turned their political bases against them, even unleashing threats from his most rabid supporters.


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:31 PM

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) Congratulates Biden After Pennsylvania Judge Dismisses Trump Lawsuit

In a long, strongly worded statement, Toomey not only congratulated Biden for his victory but also called on Trump to stop challenging the election results and get on with the transition already. “President Trump has exhausted all plausible legal options to challenge the result of the presidential race in Pennsylvania,” Toomey writes.

https://www.toomey.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/release-toomey-s
tatement-on-pa-federal-court-decision-congratulates-president-elect-biden


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Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:36 PM




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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:04 PM

No they didn't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ The sheer fucking nerve of these people on the Left to whine that people think 2020 was rigged when they cried like babies about the exact same goddamned thing for four years themselves AND they got a long, drawn out investigation on taxpayer dime that came up with nothing.

Hypocrisy, personified.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You're a Russian troll. STFU, loser.

if you want truth and facts, read what I post in this thread. I have the luxury of not needing to lie, and no need to misrepresent facts.






LOL

I'm a Russian troll now too.



OK Comrade.



I'm looking very much forward to watch GWB 2.0 to make all of your wildest dreams come true.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:43 PM

It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:43 PM

Sidney Powell says she has "BIBLICAL" Evidence in INSANE Newsmax interview attacking Brian Kemp






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Monday, November 23, 2020 12:23 AM

Trump: “Stay Tuned” For “Big” Voter Fraud Information In Georgia
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/11/21/trump-stay-tuned-b
ig-voter-fraud-information-georgia
/

It's coming! Any day now! Just like Trump's taxes, Obama's birth certificate and JFK Jr.!


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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:01 AM

Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other'
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/527086-dominion-spokesman-it-is-
not-physically-possible-for-our-machines-to-switch


A spokesperson for Dominion Voting Systems addressed conspiracy theories about the company on Fox News Sunday, saying it was “not physically possible” for its machines to change voter selections.

“This is a nonpartisan American company. It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other,” Michael Steel said on Fox News’ “America’s News HQ” Sunday.

“Let's be very clear, our election system is run by local elected officials and nonpartisan poll watchers. We simply provide a tool to count the ballots and to print and count ballots,” he added. “There is no way such a massive fraud could have taken place and there are no connections between our company and Venezuela, Germany, Barcelona, Kathmandu, whatever the latest conspiracy theory is.”

Attorneys working for the Trump campaign laid baseless claims of voter fraud during a press conference last week that included allegations that Dominion had ties to Venezuela.


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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You get no pleasure in life, other than being a little bitch.


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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You get no pleasure in life, other than being a little bitch.


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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:10 AM




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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:18 AM

Trump, The Saboteur
First a Tantrum, Then Taking Every Opportunity to Trash Our Government
https://www.dcreport.org/2020/11/22/trump-the-saboteur/

Any thoughts that Donald Trump is just trying to polish his perceived presidential legacy with his late-game administration moves is giving way to a darker idea. He is planting boulders in the path of Joe Biden and the incoming group, “salting the earth,” as one headline declared this week.

It’s a ridiculous process that sneers at the MAGA America Trump professes to love. Apart from ignoring the overwhelming coronavirus issues, Trump’s strategy is to continue hobbling the federal government from addressing what it needs to face.

Separate from petulance over losing the election and not starting a transition, Team Trump continues to be actively sabotaging U.S. policies that – at least according to campaign promises – are bound to change with an incoming opposition political party.

To show what he sees as toughness, Trump considered attacks on Iran; ordered a sudden but telegraphed withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia without condition; launched further curbs on immigration; and ordered, again, prescription drug price cuts he ordered, then suspended, a month ago, without a plan.

Now, his folks are doubling down elsewhere, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo going to the West Bank in effect to endorse Israeli takeover of Palestinian property; Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin cutting off Federal Reserve from helping markets, businesses and municipalities weather the pandemic; and there is a plan afoot for a late order to halt birthright immigration – the extension of citizenship upon American birth.

These are all moves in the category of anger-making contention. Even if Joe Biden did not want them overturned or challenged in court, his group is not in a position to carry them out through a federal government that has been hollowed of employees and will find itself at the apex of the pandemic as a full-time problem.


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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:33 AM

It's a cult: Trump's lawyer Sidney Powell is now accusing GA Gov Brian Kemp (R) of taking payoffs from Venezuelan communists to defeat Trump.
https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1330533783251148807?s=20

Boy, when she goes to court and shows all that solid, irrefutable evidence, and Trump stays president, I'm gonna cry like a little snowflake soy boy!


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Monday, November 23, 2020 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You get no pleasure in life, other than being a little bitch.







Says the guy literally complaining about everything even though his guy won.

I love life, bruh. Try to even begin pretending that you can say the same and maybe you won't be so awful.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 23, 2020 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Says the guy literally complaining about everything even though his guy won.

I love life, bruh. Try to even begin pretending that you can say the same and maybe you won't be so awful.

What is awful is that Trump is ornery. Trump deliberately says Biden LOST. After he repeatedly said Biden LOST, that is now the official position of a majority of Trump voters. But that is exactly the way Trump has ruled: up is down, left is right, plus is minus, or even more confusing, Trump said he paid all his taxes, Russia helped Hillary, climate change and Covid-19 are hoaxes. Trump's misleading is why this debunking mega-thread exists.
https://angrybearblog.com/2020/11/libertarians-and-trump-one-last-chan
ce-for-redemption.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 23, 2020 6:34 AM

Biden did lose. Has nothing to do with what Trump says.

The Media and the Establishment run the country now and they just implanted GWB 2.0.

Elections don't matter anymore. Oh well.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 23, 2020 7:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden did lose. Has nothing to do with what Trump says.

The Media and the Establishment run the country now and they just implanted GWB 2.0.

Elections don't matter anymore. Oh well.

The people who were Confederates told themselves that Lincoln lost. For years the Confederates had their very own President Jefferson Davis. It is not unexpected for some Trump voters to become the next John Wilkes Booth and attempt an assassination of Joe Biden, or at the very least, cheat on their Federal tax returns. The Trump voters will still have Trump around to run a shadow national government (except without nukes, submarines, and ICBMs): Trump threatens to wreak havoc on GOP from beyond the White House. His attacks on Republican governors since his loss offer a sample of what's in store.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/22/trump-wreak-havoc-gop-white-h
ouse-438859


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:27 AM

Yup.

We'll just work outside the system since it's rigged.



Have fun with your GWB replacement.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.

We'll just work outside the system since it's rigged.



Have fun with your GWB replacement.

The Trump voters could establish their own system. I'll give an example using Covid-19 relief. The Democrats have their $3 trillion dollar Heroes Act. The Republicans have Mitch McConnell's $0.5 trillion dollar bill, which not even Mitch can get other GOP Senators to vote for, so its price tag is really zero dollars. All the people who voted for Biden get to share the $3 trillion and all the people who voted for Trump get to share zero dollars. Non-voters get nothing. In this way, the two separate systems, one for Trump voters and another for Biden voters, can live harmoniously in one country, each voter getting what they voted for.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 23, 2020 10:05 AM

Trump campaign cuts Sidney Powell from president’s legal team
The abrupt shake-up comes as Powell makes far-fetched and unsupported claims of voter fraud in the 2020 elections.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/22/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-
legal-439357


Oh, dear! What now?


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Monday, November 23, 2020 6:04 PM

Carl Bernstein @carlbernstein tweeted:

I'm not violating any pledge of journalistic confidentiality in reporting this: 21 Republican Senators – in conversations w/ colleagues, staff members, lobbyists, W. House aides – have repeatedly expressed extreme contempt for Trump & his fitness to be POTUS.

The 21 GOP Senators who have privately expressed their disdain for Trump are: Portman, Alexander, Sasse, Blunt, Collins, Murkowski, Cornyn, Thune, Romney, Braun, Young, Tim Scott, Rick Scott, Rubio, Grassley, Burr, Toomey, McSally, Moran, Roberts, Shelby.

With few exceptions, their craven public silence has helped enable Trump’s most grievous conduct — including undermining and discrediting the US electoral system.

9:10 PM · Nov 22, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1330710304519405569



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 23, 2020 6:11 PM

Who'd have thought that GWB would serve a third term and get nearly 80 million democrats to vote for him?

2020 is sure a year for the books.



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Monday, November 23, 2020 6:29 PM


Eric Trump
@EricTrump
·
Nov 19
Reminder:
@RudyGiuliani
took down the New York mob. Hell take down these dirtbags as well...
Kelly
@Kelbre_Griff
·
Nov 19
Reminder: he almost took his pants down too.
https://twitter.com/Kelbre_Griff/status/1329490109696258048?ref_src=tw
src%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1329490109696258048%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.comicsands.com%2Feric-trump-giuliani-dirt-bags-2648994498.html





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Monday, November 23, 2020 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who'd have thought that GWB would serve a third term and get nearly 80 million democrats to vote for him?

2020 is sure a year for the books.

Why do you think Biden is George Bush? As governor of Texas, Bush was a lazy, stupid former drunk who destroyed his Vietnam War records kept with the Texas National Guard and most definitely a Republican who was completely okay with executing innocent Texas prisoners and with torturing/killing prisoners in Iraq and Guantanamo. Biden is the opposite, and to confuse the two men means you are totally confused about politics.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 23, 2020 6:40 PM

Fox News Show Erupts After Trump's Pal Geraldo Rivera Basically Admits That The Election Is Over
https://www.comicsands.com/fox-geraldo-rivera-false-hope-2648994919.ht
ml?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GTAK&utm_source=George+Takei+Newsletters&utm_campaign=6d3a3de4e4-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_06_29_05_08_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_2e6b4c049b-6d3a3de4e4-304174341


Rivera pointed out how wild Fox's conspiracy theories were, saying:

"The Clinton Foundation? George Soros?"
"Hugo Chavez? An international conspiracy?"
"Why not Elvis?"


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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:38 PM

BREAKING: CRAZY Conspiracist Sidney Powell DROPPED From Trump Legal Team




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Monday, November 23, 2020 9:44 PM

Trump's election lies are an attempted coup. Biden and other Democrats should say so.
Regardless of how you define the word "coup", now is not the time for academic debates.

Trump is not trying to simply undermine President-elect Joe Biden's presidency, nor is he primarily trying to position himself for a 2024 presidential run, as many have suggested. No, Trump's No. 1 goal is to overturn the results of the 2020 election. It's time for Biden and other Democratic leaders to describe his actions in the most forceful and universally understandable language possible. And that means, in this case, calling them part of an attempted coup to illegally overthrow the Biden presidency.

New York University history professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of the new book "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present," explained that Trump's actions are more aptly described as an "auto-coup" — in which a leader remains in power through undemocratic means.

Regardless of how you define the word, now is not the time for academic debates. Trump's wildly effective communications strategy proves that crude and simple is better. Biden's response, in contrast, has been far too careful and far too polite. On Thursday, Biden called Trump's efforts to undermine the election results "totally irresponsible." Weak language from Biden.

As Ben-Ghiat put it, rather starkly, "Democrats have to ask themselves how they want history to view them: as those who fought ferociously against Trump's efforts to undermine our election or as those who unintentionally appeased him with their silence, allowing him to decimate our democracy."

These are the stakes. Biden and the Democrats cannot hope that simply ignoring Trump will persuade him to give up. His brazen attempts to defraud the American public now include pressuring local GOP elected officials to join his plot. Even assuming Trump does vacate the White House on Jan. 20, these types of attacks could have long-term consequences, especially without clear, forceful pushback. Countless authoritarian regimes began as democracies, as Ben-Ghiat has noted.

Instead of taking the supposed high road, Biden and other Democratic officials must flood the media — including Fox News — with warnings about Trump's lies. Attempts to remain in power against the will of the people are not business as usual in America — they are more akin to something seen in banana republics.

A small number of Republican elected officials have begun to publicly call on Trump to concede. Biden is using these defections to double down on unity and bipartisanship. But without a more aggressive media campaign, Biden will be forced to govern a country more divided than ever before. A Reuters poll released Wednesday found that only 73 percent of Americans said Biden won the election, while 52 percent of Republicans say Trump "rightfully won." This is incredibly disturbing.

Team Biden must repeatedly highlight Trump's lack of credible evidence of voter fraud. Common sense tells us that if the assertions by Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani of a "national conspiracy" to rig the election were true, the Trump effort would have more to show for it. It has been nearly three weeks since Election Day. Instead, Trump's lawyers lashed out at reporters when pressed for details or data.

More at https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-election-lies-are-attemp
ted-coup-biden-other-democrats-ncna1248573


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 23, 2020 10:32 PM

Transition warning: Trump's mental illness is a growing danger
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/23/trump-mentally-unfit
-president-column/6382407002
/

As the world celebrated a Biden-Harris victory, mental health professionals braced for the two-and-a-half months that we deemed would be the most dangerous period of this presidency. Indeed, in just the days since announcement of election results, Donald Trump has refused to concede, has obstructed a peaceful transfer of power, has fired and replaced top officials responsible for the nation’s security, and has contemplated catastrophic war. All this is on top of ignoring a surging pandemic that is now infecting more than 150,000 per day and killing more than 1,500 Americans per day.

Since Donald Trump’s election, mental health professionals have come forth in historically unprecedented ways to warn against entrusting the U.S. presidency to someone exhibiting dangerous mental impairments. We held an ethics conference with the most highly respected psychiatrists in the country to ensure a solid ethical basis for speaking up. We then published "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President," which became an unprecedented bestseller of its kind, and donated all proceeds from the book to remove conflicts of interest.


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Monday, November 23, 2020 10:59 PM

Trump axed campaign lawyer Sidney Powell because 'she was too conspiratorial even for him,' report says
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lost-patience-with-conspiracy-th
eorist-attorney-powell-nyt-2020-11?utm_source=reddit.com


Sources close to the president told The New York Times' Maggie Haberman that Powell's claims had become too much for Trump and that for days the president had been "agitating" about Powell and Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor leading the Trump campaign's challenge in the courts.

A particular focus of his ire was said to be last Thursday's bizarre press conference, where Powell aired the wild conspiracy theory — with no evidence — that Venezuelan socialists and the Jewish financier George Soros had orchestrated a vast plot using rigged voting machines to steal the election from Trump.


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Monday, November 23, 2020 11:32 PM

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Transition warning: Trump's mental illness is a growing danger
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/23/trump-mentally-unfit
-president-column/6382407002
/

In summary, we believe that the preponderance of evidence overwhelmingly supports the conclusion that this President is incapable of making sound, rational, reality-based decisions free of impulsivity, recklessness, paranoid and other demonstrably false beliefs, with most notably an absorption in self-interest that precludes the consideration of national interest. These characteristics not only affect the overall unfitness of this President; they also indicate a profound danger to national and international security in the nuclear age. Whereas we would still like to see the results of a proper, in-person evaluation, as stated above, a personal interview does not necessarily yield the most useful information in a functional assessment. In fact, we believe that we already have enough information to conclude that the President lacks the mental capacity to discharge the duties of his office, and that his incapacity in these respects represents a profound risk to public health and safety.

More at https://1dc.470.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Mueller_Com
bined_Final_August_2019-1.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 24, 2020 2:03 AM

Detroit had more vote errors in 2016 when Trump won Michigan by a narrow margin. He didn’t object then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/detroit-vote-errors-trump/2020
/11/23/ae789912-2d3b-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com





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Tuesday, November 24, 2020 2:40 AM

It’s Time to Consider Sanctions for Trump’s Legal Team
Courts and state bars have a responsibility to act against an egregious attempt to undermine American democracy.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/trump-legal-team-rudy-giul
iani-state-bar-sanctions.html


All this raises the question of the lawyers’ ethical conduct in bringing these cases in the first place. A New Jersey congressman has called for the disbarment of nearly two dozen Trump lawyers. As scholars who have devoted the better part of our professional lives to the study of legal ethics, we believe, based on the records publicly available to date, that the disciplinary case against certain of Trump’s lawyers is strong.

Of course, there is nothing unethical about launching a lawsuit thinking that it’s a long shot likely to fail. Lawyers cross fundamental professional boundaries, however, when they file cases that make unsubstantiated allegations of election fraud and heedlessly assist their client’s calculated effort to erode trust in our democratic system. For lawyers who have sworn to uphold the rule of law, that is an astonishing breach.

The ethical requirements that govern lawyers are set forth in the American Bar Association’s Model Rules of Professional Conduct. Though the particulars vary somewhat by state, these rules govern every lawyer practicing in the United States today and have requirements that govern the election conduct at issue. For example, Rule 3.1 states that a “lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous.” Although filings are not frivolous “merely because the facts have not first been fully substantiated,” lawyers are duty-bound prior to filing to “inform themselves about the facts of their clients’ cases and the applicable law.” Moreover, lawyers have “a duty not to abuse legal procedure,” which, given the stakes in these cases, imposes a special obligation to ensure the basic accuracy and credibility of their challenges. And, under another governing provision—Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11 and state-court counterparts—lawyers also can’t file suit “for an improper purpose” such as causing “unnecessary delay.”
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Disbar all of them. They don’t deserve to be in a court room after peddling this bullshit.


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Tuesday, November 24, 2020 3:31 AM

Donald Trump’s bid to steal the election hinges on a shameless homophobe who once called him a lying, idiotic bully
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“Evangelical advocate” Jenna Ellis, a senior legal adviser to the Trump 2020 campaign, has taken a central role in the president’s baseless allegations of widespread voter fraud after his loss to Joe Biden.

When Trump was first elected she labelled him a narcissistic “idiot,” a “bully” and someone who “really cannot be trusted to be consistent or accurate in anything”, but she changed her tune midway through his presidency and is now one of his closest allies.


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