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Sunday, October 25, 2020 1:50 AM

It took a while, but 'new deaths' in the US are going up. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

'New cases' went up because young, invulnerable people decided they didn't want to give up their party-time lifestyle and caught COVID-19.

But because we don't have a society where vulnerable people live separately from everyone else, and so are able to be protected, young people gave came in contact with vulnerable people, and passed their COVID-19 on to them. And now the vulnerable people are dying.

It's inevitable in the US: news cases = new hospitalizations = new deaths.

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Sunday, October 25, 2020 1:59 AM


The CDC Just Changed The Definition Of ‘Close Contact’ To Someone With Covid-19

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday expanded the definition of “close contact” to someone with a confirmed case of Covid-19 from 15 consecutive minutes within six feet to 15 total minutes or more, within six feet, over a 24 hour period.

The revised definition is based on new evidence about transmission of the virus from a correctional facility in Vermont. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6943e1.htm

• • A 20-year-old prison employee contracted the coronavirus during the course of his eight-hour shift during which he had multiple, albeit brief, encounters with six asymptomatic incarcerated individuals on July 28.

• • The employee, who was wearing a cloth mask, a gown and eye protection during each interaction, spent a total of 17 minutes with the incarcerated individuals during his shift.

• • The six individuals had arrived from an out of state facility, were quarantined, and awaiting Covid-19 test results – on July 29, all six tested positive.

• • They wore face masks during some, but not all of their interactions with the employee.

• • The employee began showing symptoms August 4, and tested positive August 11 – he reported no other exposure to the coronavirus and had not traveled outside Vermont.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/10/21/the-cdc-just-cha
nged-the-definition-of-close-contact-to-someone-with-covid-19/#bac1d0f2769e





Even multiple but brief exposures - like passing in the hallway - count.

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Monday, October 26, 2020 1:27 PM

If Trump was at all up to the task of handling this pandemic, there would be ONE thing that he should have been able to do BY NOW: Make it possible for every vulnerable person to get an Rx for two N95 respirators once every two months or so.

Dear daugther and I have been using the same six since this started. That's three per person for almost nine months.

Vulnerable people KNOW that they're vulnerable. They're not out running errands five times a week, and with careful use and sanitizing a few N95s could go a long way to protecting the elderly and compromised.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Monday, October 26, 2020 2:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Dear daugther and I have been using the same six since this started. That's three per person for almost nine months.




Uh-huh. I don't think you get how masks work, OR you're lying and just posting to get credits. I'm guessing the latter.

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Monday, October 26, 2020 6:30 PM

Apparently YOU don't know about sanitizing for re-use!!

So, are your minders are keeping you well-supplied?

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Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:36 AM

I have wondered if the CA wildfires have contributed to spread.

The fires caused premature temp drop and cloud cover clocking the sun. Has ths temp drop and UV reduction iven rise to Covid spread?

Was the summer our opportunity to subdue, and squandered by superspreader events from Antifag and BLM?

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Wednesday, October 28, 2020 6:00 AM



I realize you can't get to some linked data, but since most of these links are to maps, I'll have to describe them to you.


Overall, California's rate of COVID-19 spread seems to be most related to relaxing and then re-enforcing restaurant and bar restrictions. For example, on July 6, 2020 bars and in-house dining were re-restricted in selected counties, and by July 13 cases started to level off. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/state-timeline/new-confirmed-cases/ca
lifornia/67
By August 14, 2020 cases in CA were dropping steeply.

If fires contributed to the spread you'd expect to see the most cases where there were the worst fires - or immediately downwind https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/. That's not the case, as the two maps don't match up.

And if riots were major contributors you'd expect to see the worst spread in urban areas, and not also in very rural, agricultural, and desert areas like San Bernardino, Riverside, Imperial, Tulare, Modera, and Tehama counties.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2020 8:23 AM


I've pointed out more than once that there's a lot about SARS-CoV-2 that's UNknown. But the meaning of the word UNknown seems to escape many, since people make predictions based on assumptions that may or may not be true.

One of them is herd immunity. Its merits are based on at least 2 assumptions: 1) infection confers lasting immunity, and 2) nearly all infections don't leave lasting damage (ie if you haven't died, or been in a hospital on a ventilator, you'll be OK).

One assumption about infection leading to immunity may be wrong.

Quote:

UK study finds evidence of waning antibody immunity to COVID-19 over time

Scientists at Imperial College London ... found that antibody prevalence fell by a quarter, from 6% of the population around the end of June to just 4.4% in September.

“On the balance of evidence I would say, with what we know for other coronaviruses, it would look as if immunity declines away at the same rate as antibodies decline away, and that this is an indication of waning immunity at the population level.”

The study backs up findings from similar surveys in Germany which found the vast majority of people didn’t have COVID-19 antibodies, even in hotspots for the disease, and that antibodies might fade in those who do.

World Health Organisation spokesman Tarik Jasarevic said that uncertainty over how long immunity would last and the fact most people had never had antibodies against the coronavirus in the first place showed the need to break transmission chains. Acquiring this collective immunity just by letting virus run through the population is not really an option,” he told a U.N. briefing in Geneva

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-antibody
-idUKKBN27C009

As noted in the article, this was released as an unreviewed preprint, and no link was provided to the preprint server.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2020 9:14 AM

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/study-identifies-3-existing-
drugs-that-may-help-treat-covid-19#Three-drugs-identified


Study identifies 3 existing drugs that may help treat COVID-19

Instead, in their study, the scientists used a ligand-based virtual screening (LBVS) (like the 'in silico' method described in a post above -1kiki)

... to study approximately 4,000 drugs[,] then verifying their findings, the scientists identified three that may be effective against COVID-19 and, in their opinion, should be made the subject of clinical trials.

These are the antimalarial drug amodiaquine, the anti-psychotic zuclopenthixol, and the blood pressure medication nebivolol.

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Thursday, October 29, 2020 1:27 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I have wondered if the CA wildfires have contributed to spread.

The fires caused premature temp drop and cloud cover clocking the sun. Has ths temp drop and UV reduction iven rise to Covid spread?

Was the summer our opportunity to subdue, and squandered by superspreader events from Antifag and BLM?

I meant for the rest of America. I'm in WI, and the smoke blocked the sun and dropped temps suddenly in early Sept.

I don't know how Canada was affected. I assume Utah was.

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