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I would not care if Hunter Biden embezzled zillions and had relations with a dead donkey on film.

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:52 AM

Do Rethugs REALLY think "The sins of the son" have anything to do with the father??

Someone should tell them this tactic reeks of desperation, even to Chump supporters.

This isn't the 1870's. This isn't India. No one cares about "family names"
anymore.





I also do not care if Biden himself met every single corrupt person his son ever
knew. NOTHING they have ever done would begin to rival the Evil Empire corruptness
of the Chump Disadministration.


Also, If Obama spied on Trump, which I am far from convinced he did....GREAT.
It's clear you can't be dirtier than Chump. The US Government should have investigated his dealings DECADES AGO. Someone dropped that ball HARD.








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Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:55 AM

Facebook and Twitter are choking the spread of a controversial New York Post story about Hunter Biden after questions arise about its veracity and a possible disinformation campaign
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-hunter-biden-new-york-post-st
ory-fact-checkers-2020-10



An explosive New York Post story that's sending Trumpworld into a frenzy is riddled with holes and red flags
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-hunter-joe-biden-giulian
i-red-flags-disinformation-2020-10


This is what is known as "fake news." It's a sleazy attempt to smear Biden because they know they're losing, and can't win without cheating.

Trumptards, while stupid and violent, are also completely devoid of any ethics or morals.









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Thursday, October 15, 2020 5:25 AM

It should bother you when the swiss cheese brained candidate you idiots nominated was extorting the Ukraine government to protect his corrupt son. But only if you're not a partisan hack that has no moral compass and who has let the current sitting president haunt every waking thought you've had in your smoothbrain for 4 straight years.


Fuck your hypocrisy.

You're all beyond gross.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 5:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It should bother you when the swiss cheese brained candidate you idiots nominated was extorting the Ukraine government to protect his corrupt son. But only if you're not a partisan hack that has no moral compass and who has let the current sitting president haunt every waking thought you've had in your smoothbrain for 4 straight years.


Fuck your hypocrisy.

You're all beyond gross.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More false, already debunked bullshit from the wet brain.

But facts aren't really his thing. He goes with his feelings.


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Thursday, October 15, 2020 5:40 AM

Not false. Not debunked.

I can't wait until Trump's reelection and your subsequent meltdown.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
.. your hypocrisy.




It's funny HE uses that word.

It's not like he cares what the Chump family of knuckle-draggers, nepotists, and cons has done, either.



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Thursday, October 15, 2020 6:58 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
.. bullshit from the wet brain.



Don't give him credit by implying there's a brain in there, however damaged.


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Thursday, October 15, 2020 7:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:


Also, If Obama spied on Trump, which I am far from convinced he did....GREAT.
It's clear you can't be dirtier than Chump. The US Government should have investigated his dealings DECADES AGO. Someone dropped that ball HARD.



Looks like Bill Barr couldn't even FAKE coming up with something on Obama and Hillary!

I look forward to his tell-all book!


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8840861/Donald-Trump-hints-FI
RING-Bill-Barr-probes-Russiagate-fall-flat-election.html







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Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:20 AM

Good.

At least you'll have something to look forward too after Trump is reelected.

I'm happy for you.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:55 PM

U.S. intelligence anticipated Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says. // Rudy Giuliani is an active tool of hostile anti-American disinformation.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-intelligence-analysts-hacked-burism
a-emails-russia-october-surprise-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com


US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday.
Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year.
Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materials in an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
Earlier Wednesday, the New York Post published an article purporting to feature a "smoking-gun email" between a Burisma executive and Biden's son Hunter.
As Business Insider reported, the authenticity of the Post article is highly questionable, and its sourcing raises numerous red flags.
---

But as we all know, trumptards are as stupid as they are violent. They'll believe any lie.



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Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:52 PM

Rudy Giuliani Interrupted His Effort to Smear Joe Biden With An Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory About George Soros
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/rudy-giuliani-george-soro
s-joe-biden
/

He's lost it.


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Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:47 PM

Trump’s fake new Biden scandal has a deeper purpose. Bannon revealed it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/


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Friday, October 16, 2020 12:10 AM

wow...just...wow..to quote a character just as fictional as your thoughts.

"Amazing...every word of what you just said was wrong..." Luke Skywalker.

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Friday, October 16, 2020 8:55 AM

Move Over, Hunter Biden. Meet Eric Branstad, the China Ambassador’s Son Who Got Rich in Trump’s Swamp.

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassad
or
/

As a reminder that Trump's crooks start being crooks while young:

Between 1983 and 1999, Terry Branstad served an unprecedented four consecutive terms as governor, making him the state’s longest serving chief executive. In 2010, after a stint as president of Des Moines University, Terry Branstad ran for governor again and won, serving until 2017, when he became ambassador to China. “He was jokingly referred to as ‘governor for life’ until he was appointed by Trump,” said Jeff Link, an Iowa Democratic strategist.

As the eldest of Terry Branstad’s three children, Eric Branstad grew up immersed in the state’s insular political world. In his teenage years, he was often the one making the headlines. In 1991, at the age of 16, he drove a van originally purchased by his father’s campaign committee across a median into a head-on collision that killed two people. The crash sparked a political scandal and a highly public lawsuit. According to the Des Moines Register, Eric Branstad ended up paying only $34.50 in fines and court costs for improper passing, a penalty that many Iowans saw as reflecting his father’s influence.

The fatal crash was followed by other violations — including public intoxication, using a fake ID to buy beer, and illegal possession of alcohol — before Eric Branstad was sent off to a military academy in Missouri. “A lot of kids have problems,” Terry Branstad said at a press conference in 1995. “This kid has had a lot of problems.”



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 16, 2020 9:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Move Over, Hunter Biden. Meet Eric Branstad, the China Ambassador’s Son Who Got Rich in Trump’s Swamp.

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassad
or
/

As a reminder that Trump's crooks start being crooks while young:

Between 1983 and 1999, Terry Branstad served an unprecedented four consecutive terms as governor, making him the state’s longest serving chief executive. In 2010, after a stint as president of Des Moines University, Terry Branstad ran for governor again and won, serving until 2017, when he became ambassador to China. “He was jokingly referred to as ‘governor for life’ until he was appointed by Trump,” said Jeff Link, an Iowa Democratic strategist.

As the eldest of Terry Branstad’s three children, Eric Branstad grew up immersed in the state’s insular political world. In his teenage years, he was often the one making the headlines. In 1991, at the age of 16, he drove a van originally purchased by his father’s campaign committee across a median into a head-on collision that killed two people. The crash sparked a political scandal and a highly public lawsuit. According to the Des Moines Register, Eric Branstad ended up paying only $34.50 in fines and court costs for improper passing, a penalty that many Iowans saw as reflecting his father’s influence.

The fatal crash was followed by other violations — including public intoxication, using a fake ID to buy beer, and illegal possession of alcohol — before Eric Branstad was sent off to a military academy in Missouri. “A lot of kids have problems,” Terry Branstad said at a press conference in 1995. “This kid has had a lot of problems.”



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Republicans always, only, fail upward.

Loyalty to the gang is the only standard with fascists.

Doesn't matter if you're a pervy politician or a "scientist" with fake science. If you stick to the party line, you move up.

Look at Limbaugh, or Roy Moore. Fascists circle the wagons to defend their thugs.

Demonstrably not the case with Dems.




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Friday, October 16, 2020 10:22 PM

Rudy Giuliani was strolling around in Wilmington one day when he noticed a hard drive lying on the sidewalk. When he hooked it up, it turned out to be full of incriminating evidence about Hunter Biden’s lobbying for a Ukrainian energy company, along with some risque photos. What luck! So he gave it to the FBI and turned over a copy to his pals at the New York Post, who put it all on their front page.

OK, that’s not exactly how it happened. But it might as well be, since the actual story is hardly any more believable. More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/10/is-rudy-giuliani-a-russian-pawn/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 16, 2020 11:08 PM

Anatomy Of A Smear: Questions Surrounding The New York Post’s Hunter Biden Story
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/questions-new-york-biden-hunter-biden-t
rump-campaign_n_5f88de1cc5b66ee9a5ee4aad





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Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:58 AM

And now, the REAL news:

October Surprise! US psychiatrists convince the media to reveal the extent of Trump’s mental instability
https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/10/16/october-surprise-us-psychiat
rists-convince-the-media-to-reveal-the-extent-of-trumps-mental-instability
/

Bandy Lee, Clinical Professor in law and psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine joined with 26 other top-level psychiatrists and mental health experts to present their professional findings relative to Mr. Trump’s very serious mental condition, that they indicated makes him unfit to be president.


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Saturday, October 17, 2020 1:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OLDGUY:
wow...just...wow..to quote a character just as fictional as your thoughts.

"Amazing...every word of what you just said was wrong..." Luke Skywalker.

Hey there, welcome back.

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:35 AM

U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House – twice – last year that Rudy Giuliani was the target of a Russian influence operation. During a December 2019 trip to Ukraine to gather information he thought would expose corrupt acts by Hunter Biden, Giuliani was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence.

Earlier in 2019, U.S. intelligence also warned in written materials sent to the White House that Giuliani was communicating with Russian assets. Giuliani was seeking information similar to what is allegedly contained in emails and other correspondence published this week by the New York Post, which the paper said came from Hunter Biden’s laptop and provided to Giuliani and Stephen Bannon.

National security adviser Robert O’Brien briefed Trump in a private conversation at the time that any information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia. Trump reportedly “shrugged his shoulders” at O’Brien, dismissed concern, and said: “That’s Rudy.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-biden-ukrain
e-russian-disinformation/2020/10/15/43158900-0ef5-11eb-b1e8-16b59b92b36d_story.html


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Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
And now, the REAL news:

October Surprise! US psychiatrists convince the media to reveal the extent of Trump’s mental instability
https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/10/16/october-surprise-us-psychiat
rists-convince-the-media-to-reveal-the-extent-of-trumps-mental-instability
/

Bandy Lee, Clinical Professor in law and psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine joined with 26 other top-level psychiatrists and mental health experts to present their professional findings relative to Mr. Trump’s very serious mental condition, that they indicated makes him unfit to be president.

There have been 10 more co-authors added to book in 2019 in order to cover new aspects of Trump's administration. One new aspect from the introduction to the 2019 edition:

Trump is also unleashing a new nuclear arms race that could end up in global nuclear annihilation. Any knowledgeable student of modern history knows of the numerous close calls, both deliberate and accidental, that have brought the world repeatedly to the brink of nuclear war. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has now advanced the Doomsday Clock to two minutes to midnight, the direst proximity to doomsday since 1953, when the thermonuclear arms race between the United States and the Soviet Union began.

Trump’s recent call to withdraw from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Force Treaty with Russia, against the counsel of foreign policy experts in the United States and Europe, not to mention Russia (including our age’s preeminent peacemaker, Mikhail Gorbachev), is yet another marker of rising dangers. The essay by James R. Merikangas and Dr. Tarannum M. Lateef on the nuclear threat is powerful, poignant, and terrifying. As the authors put it: “Those who pretend that we are in the realm of politics when we are really in the realm of psychopathology make the situation even more dangerous, because they will not be prepared while the future of the planet and the human race are at stake.”

You can download either the first or second edition of the book for free at https://libgen.unblockit.lat/search.php?req=Bandy+Lee

or second edition at http://library.lol/main/AA160C9A9C913D1B3A2B035C57389C4A

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 10:30 AM

I had an old asshole Trump voter (judging by the bumper sticker) pull out in front of me, and continued to drive 45 in a 55 this evening..

All I could think was a great bumper sticker of my own...




Don't drive like a Trump voter:
A little too slow and a whole lot of oblivious





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Saturday, October 17, 2020 11:42 AM

Thanks for bringing up donkey-fucking, WISHY. The thread would have been boring without it!

Apparently, the Bidens only saw China as a means to line their pockets. USA interests were nowhere in mind


Quote:

Hunter Biden Business Associate Flips From Prison, Releases Emails Detailing China Influence-Peddling Operation

Emails from a former business associate of Hunter Biden's inner-circle who's serving time in prison for a 2016 investment scheme reveal that Hunter and his colleagues used their access to the Obama administration to peddle influence to potential Chinese clients and investors - including securing a private, off-the-books meeting with the former Vice President.


The emails, given to investigative journalist Peter Schweizer by former Biden associate Bevan Cooney and published by Breitbart also reveal that in 2011, the younger Biden and his business associates discussed strengthening relations with "China Inc." as part of a "new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese."

As Breitbart notes, these emails are completely unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails released by the New York Post.

Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for an investment scheme in which Hunter and business associate Devon Archer avoided responsibility. He reached out to Schweizer after the journalist published Secret Empires in 2018. Archer was initially spared jail and handed a second trial, however a federal appeals court reinstated Archer's fraud conviction in the case last week.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-business-associate-fl
ips-prison-releases-emails-detailing-china-influence


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 3:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.





Are you just feigning upset over nothing or are you sad that they didn't flog the office HALF AS HARD AS CHUMP??

If Rethugs don't give a shit about him doing it, what makes you think WE fucking care??







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Saturday, October 17, 2020 4:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.





Are you just feigning upset over nothing or are you sad that they didn't flog the office HALF AS HARD AS CHUMP??

If Rethugs don't give a shit about him doing, what makes you think WE fucking care??







https://refusefascism.org/

Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own persoanl wealth.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own persoanl wealth.

Trump has loans from foreign governments. How much does he owe and to who? Nobody but his accountants know because Trump won't cooperate and neither will the foreigners who are bribing him.

Signym, don't pretend this okay because there has never been a President before Trump running a private corporation involved in international financial chicanery.

Just like his non-payment of federal and state income taxes, Trump hasn't gone to jail because prosecutors need the cooperation of Trump's accountants before they can get him into court. The accountants aren't helpful, per Trump's orders. There is nothing other than a bad conscience preventing Trump from giving those orders and proving to America he is not being bribed and he is not cheating on his taxes:

Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/16/donald-trump-has-
at-least-1-billion-in-debt-more-than-twice-the-amount-he-suggested/#201e58484330


No aspect of Donald Trump’s business has been the subject of more speculation than his debt load. Lots of people believe the president owes $400 million, especially after Trump seemed to agree with that figure on national television Thursday night. In reality, however, he owes more than $1 billion.

The loans are spread out over more than a dozen different assets — hotels, buildings, mansions and golf courses. Most are listed on the financial disclosure report Trump files annually with the federal government. Two, which add up to an estimated $447 million, are not.

Some people also like to suggest that Deutsche Bank is the only institution willing to lend to Trump. That’s not true. The president’s creditors include at least six other institutions, two of which began or reworked deals while the president was in office.

One reason for all the confusion: Trump’s loans are not fully transparent. It’s still unclear to whom he owes an estimated $162 million against his skyscraper in San Francisco, for example. The loan against 1290 Avenue of the Americas is also something of a mystery. And it’s difficult to pin down the amount the president owes on a loan tied to his Bedford, New York, mansion. When asked about all of this, the Trump Organization did not respond.

Here’s what we know — and don’t know — about the president’s debt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/16/donald-trump-has-
at-least-1-billion-in-debt-more-than-twice-the-amount-he-suggested/#201e58484330



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks for bringing up donkey-fucking, WISHY. The thread would have been boring without it!

Apparently, the Bidens only saw China as a means to line their pockets. USA interests were nowhere in mind


Quote:

Hunter Biden Business Associate Flips From Prison, Releases Emails Detailing China Influence-Peddling Operation

Emails from a former business associate of Hunter Biden's inner-circle who's serving time in prison for a 2016 investment scheme reveal that Hunter and his colleagues used their access to the Obama administration to peddle influence to potential Chinese clients and investors - including securing a private, off-the-books meeting with the former Vice President.


The emails, given to investigative journalist Peter Schweizer by former Biden associate Bevan Cooney and published by Breitbart also reveal that in 2011, the younger Biden and his business associates discussed strengthening relations with "China Inc." as part of a "new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese."

As Breitbart notes, these emails are completely unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails released by the New York Post.

Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for an investment scheme in which Hunter and business associate Devon Archer avoided responsibility. He reached out to Schweizer after the journalist published Secret Empires in 2018. Archer was initially spared jail and handed a second trial, however a federal appeals court reinstated Archer's fraud conviction in the case last week.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-business-associate-fl
ips-prison-releases-emails-detailing-china-influence


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

This is why everyone knows you're a Russian troll. You keep spewing debunked bullshit even after it gets debunked right in front of you.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.


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Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

This is why everyone knows you're a Russian troll. You keep spewing debunked bullshit even after it gets debunked right in front of you.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.

Signym and Trump know this and practice it: “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” - adolf hitler

Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-
more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:27 PM

Quote:

SIGNYM:
Thanks for bringing up donkey-fucking, WISHY. The thread would have been boring without it!
Apparently, the Bidens only saw China as a means to line their pockets. USA interests were nowhere in mind


Quote:

Hunter Biden Business Associate Flips From Prison, Releases Emails Detailing China Influence-Peddling Operation

Emails from a former business associate of Hunter Biden's inner-circle who's serving time in prison for a 2016 investment scheme reveal that Hunter and his colleagues used their access to the Obama administration to peddle influence to potential Chinese clients and investors - including securing a private, off-the-books meeting with the former Vice President.


The emails, given to investigative journalist Peter Schweizer by former Biden associate Bevan Cooney and published by Breitbart also reveal that in 2011, the younger Biden and his business associates discussed strengthening relations with "China Inc." as part of a "new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese."

As Breitbart notes, these emails are completely unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails released by the New York Post.

Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for an investment scheme in which Hunter and business associate Devon Archer avoided responsibility. He reached out to Schweizer after the journalist published Secret Empires in 2018. Archer was initially spared jail and handed a second trial, however a federal appeals court reinstated Archer's fraud conviction in the case last week.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-business-associate-fl
ips-prison-releases-emails-detailing-china-influence


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.
#WEARAMASK

REABERBOT: This is why everyone knows you're a Russian troll. You keep spewing debunked bullshit even after it gets debunked right in front of you.

Every release from HUNTER BIDEN'S computer (which was sent in for repair, which is how we got this info) and every squeal from his former business partners co-conspirators proves the point. The fact that your ONLY response is to call me a "Russian troll" proves that you don't have any defense.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.


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Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:30 PM

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SECONDRATE: Signym and Trump know this and practice it: “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” - adolf hitler


Wow, let's count up the lies YOU have told! You want to talk about liars? Look in the mirror, son.



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Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:39 PM

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Imagine If MSM Consistently Applied The Evidentiary Standards It’s Applying To Hunter Biden’s Emails


https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/15/imagine-if-msm-consistently-ap
plied-the-evidentiary-standards-its-applying-to-hunter-bidens-emails
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Yep, imagine. 85% of what they published about Trump were lies, and it would all never have been.

Why didn't they stick with the truth, instead of making shit up? That would have been damning enough.

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 1:00 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Imagine If MSM Consistently Applied The Evidentiary Standards It’s Applying To Hunter Biden’s Emails


https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/15/imagine-if-msm-consistently-ap
plied-the-evidentiary-standards-its-applying-to-hunter-bidens-emails
/

Yep, imagine. 85% of what they published about Trump were lies, and it would all never have been.

Why didn't they stick with the truth, instead of making shit up? That would have been damning enough.

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Is your Russian ass still sore from the kicking it got for posting debunked bullshit?



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Sunday, October 18, 2020 1:02 AM

Oh, look. Here's a REAL story about a REAL crook named Hunter.

Ex-SoCal Rep. Duncan Hunter to serve 11-month sentence at West Texas prison camp
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/ex-socal-rep-duncan-hunter-to-serve-1
1-month-sentence-at-west-texas-prison-camp
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Sunday, October 18, 2020 1:22 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Every release from HUNTER BIDEN'S computer (which was sent in for repair, which is how we got this info) and every squeal from his former business partners co-conspirators proves the point. The fact that your ONLY response is to call me a "Russian troll" proves that you don't have any defense.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.

John Paul Mac Isaac said he 'can't be 100% sure' it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair. Repeat: The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair.

Isaac’s claim that the laptop in question belonged to Hunter Biden has yet to be substantiated.
www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-own
er-john-paul-mac-isaac


The FBI is investigating a possible Russian influence operation to spread disinformation, according to a person familiar with the matter. The unlikely account of how the emails surfaced raised immediate questions about Russian involvement.
www.delawareonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/16/fbi-investigatin
g-hunter-biden-emails-russia-disinformation/3683566001
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 1:42 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own persoanl wealth.



Why did you add the word “extort?”

He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain, but in terms of filling his pants with foreign money he hardly has to extort anyone. He didn’t extort anyone when secret service went out their way to stay at his hotels, he just abused the office. You’d think a tax paying American such as yourself would be a bit upset by that. No? Maybe one of these other 1,999 abuses?
A small sample:
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/
trumps-2000-conflicts-of-interest-and-counting
/

Trump conflicts of interest by the numbers
CREW has now tallied 2,310 conflicts resulting from President Trump’s decision to retain his business interests. Here are some of the most startling numbers from the data:

The president has visited his properties 362 times at taxpayer expense during his administration, sometimes visiting more than one of them in a single day. In 2019 alone, he has visited his properties 81 times, helping to further establish them as centers of political power. The number of days where President Trump has spent time at a Trump-branded property account for almost a third of the days he’s been president.
One-hundred eleven officials from 65 foreign governments, including 57 foreign countries, have made 137 visits to a Trump property, raising the question of how much foreign money has been spent at Trump’s properties.
Additionally, CREW has recorded 630 visits to Trump properties from at least 250 Trump administration officials. This includes high-level White House staff, members of Trump’s cabinet, and individual agency employees. So far this year, CREW has recorded 198 visits by White House officials. Ivanka Trump—who has an ownership interest in the Trump hotel in D.C.—and her husband Jared Kushner, both senior White House advisors, are the most frequent executive branch officials to visit Trump properties, other than the president himself. Jared has made 28 known visits, while Ivanka has made 23.
Members of Congress have flocked to President Trump’s properties, despite their constitutional oversight responsibility to provide a check on the executive branch as it relates to President Trump’s conflicts of interest. Throughout his two and a half years as president, 90 members of Congress have made 188 visits to a Trump property.
Forty-seven state officials, including 20 Republican governors, have made 64 visits to Trump properties, sometimes resulting in state taxpayer funds being spent there.
President Trump has used the presidency to provide free publicity for his properties, which he still profits from as president. Over the course of his presidency, Trump has tweeted about or mentioned one of his properties on 159 occasions, and White House officials have followed suit: Members of Trump’s White House have mentioned a Trump property 65 times, sometimes in the course of their official duties.
Political groups have hosted 63 events at Trump properties since President Trump took office, selling wealthy donors access to the administration while also enriching the president. Seventeen of these have been for Trump-linked groups, and another six have been hosted by groups linked to Vice President Mike Pence. Trump Victory, the joint fundraising arm of Trump’s 2020 election committee and the RNC, has hosted six events at Trump properties just this year, four of which were attended by the President himself. In all, the RNC and other Republican Party groups have had 28 events at Trump properties.

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:09 AM

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CC: He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain,
He did? When was that?

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:12 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Imagine If MSM Consistently Applied The Evidentiary Standards It’s Applying To Hunter Biden’s Emails


https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/15/imagine-if-msm-consistently-ap
plied-the-evidentiary-standards-its-applying-to-hunter-bidens-emails
/

Yep, imagine. 85% of what they published about Trump were lies, and it would all never have been.

Why didn't they stick with the truth, instead of making shit up? That would have been damning enough.

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Is your Russian ass still sore from the kicking it got for posting debunked bullshit?




More made-up shit from our local lunatic.

Yanno, people get mighty testy around election time. I call it "silly season". They think that going ballistic online will somehow affect the election outcome.

Don't go off a cliff, REAVERBOT.

Oh, wait ... too late. You already have.

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 3:43 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

More made-up shit from our local lunatic.

Yanno, people get mighty testy around election time. I call it "silly season". They think that going ballistic online will somehow affect the election outcome.

Don't go off a cliff, REAVERBOT.

Oh, wait ... too late. You already have.


Butthurt noted.

Your burning, unending shame at having had your ass kicked so often and so perfectly by me in this thread, and all the others, has you lying like the little Russian bitch you are.

Accept that you're just not very bright, and were defeated by your moral and intellectual better.




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Sunday, October 18, 2020 3:46 AM

US spies say the Hunter Biden email controversy shows how 'exploitable' and 'grotesquely vulnerable' Trump and Giuliani are to Russian intelligence
https://www.businessinsider.com/spies-hunter-biden-emails-trump-giulia
ni-vulnerable-russian-intelligence-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com


Former spooks told Business Insider that Rudy Giuliani's role in a widely discredited New York Post story and President Donald Trump's willingness to seize on it highlights how vulnerable they are to being duped by Russian intelligence.

Giuliani's access to Trump, the two men's personality traits, their eagerness to obtain dirt on the Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and unwillingness to acknowledge Russian interference makes them a goldmine for foreign intelligence services, former spies said.

They are "grotesquely vulnerable, exploitable targets" and "any foreign intelligence service would be derelict if they did not try to exploit this," said a former CIA covert operative.

Steve Hall, the CIA's former chief of Russia operations, also said Trump and Giuliani's tendency to traffic in conspiracies and the rise of misinformation in right-wing media mean "we're doing a lot of [Russia's] work for them."
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Treason is punishable by death. I'd pay to watch these two traitors hang.


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Sunday, October 18, 2020 3:47 AM

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SIGNY: Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own personal wealth.

CC:
Why did you add the word “extort?”

I used the word "extort" because that's what Joe Biden bragged about doing. Bragged. On video. Not made-up shit. Unlike the recorded phone call where Trump did no such thing.

Want me to play that again?








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More idiocy from the shitty Russian troll.

Does a C-SPAN Video Show Joe Biden ‘Confessing to Bribery’?
The U.S. may have pushed for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor, but not for the reasons implied in a video clip.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/c-span-video-joe-biden-ukraine/

Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/trump-twists-facts-on-biden-and-ukra
ine
/

What Joe Biden Actually Did in Ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/us/politics/joe-biden-ukraine.html

What Actually Happened Between Joe Biden and Ukraine, Explained
Hint: It’s not what President Trump wants the media to believe
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-ukraine-pros
ecutor-trump-tweet-888662
/

Damn, your ass is hurting from all the kicking I gave it!

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 4:28 AM


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Full Story Behind Hunter's Laptop Debunks Latest Russia Conspiracy Theory

As the Hunter Biden laptop scandal threatens to throw the 2020 election into chaos with what appears to be solid, undisputed evidence of high-level corruption by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, the same crowd which peddled the Trump-Russia hoax is now suggesting that Russia is behind it all.

To wit, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, who swore on National television that he had evidence Trump was colluding with Russia - now says that President Trump is handing the Kremlin a "propaganda coup from Vladimir Putin."

Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) has gone full tin-foil, suggesting that Giuliani was a 'key target' of 'Kremlin constructed anti-Biden propaganda.'

Headlines in major publications are perhaps even more conspiratorial:

And of course, propagandists are doing their thing...

Yet, if one looks at the actual facts of the case - in particular, that Hunter Biden appears to have dropped his own laptops off at a computer repair shop, signed a service ticket, and the shop owner approached the FBI first and Rudy Giuliani last after Biden failed to pick them up, the left's latest Russia conspiracy theory is quickly debunked.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/full-story-behind-hunters-laptops-
debunks-latest-russia-conspiracy-theory





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Sunday, October 18, 2020 4:29 AM

More debunked bullshit, repeated by the flailing, butthurt Russian troll, then reported by the same propaganda source.

You just keep losing, son!


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Sunday, October 18, 2020 4:33 AM

^ Hasn't won a single argument since he created this sockpuppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 5:45 AM

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^ Hasn't won a single argument since he created this sockpuppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

True. Sig is a pathetic troll, and always loses to me, just like you do.




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Sunday, October 18, 2020 5:46 AM

Leaked alleged texts between Joe Biden and son Hunter backfire on GOP
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/biden-leaked-texts/




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Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:26 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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CC: He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain,
He did? When was that?



Nice try. You said he didn’t use the office for personal gain. I gave you hundreds of ways your statement was full of shit. How can you be so wrong so often?

Signym running interference for an impeached lying piece of sh*t - a perfect fit.

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 7:28 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ Hasn't won a single argument since he created this sockpuppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

True. Sig is a pathetic troll, and always loses to me, just like you do.








You are delusional.

Only a few weeks until I get to shove all of those delusions up your ass so you can bounce on them.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:12 PM

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CC: He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain,

SIGNY: He did? When was that?


CAP'NGSTRING: Nice try. You said he didn’t use the office for personal gain.

NOPE! NOT WHAT I POSTED! Read again!
Quote:

I gave you hundreds of ways your statement was full of shit. How can you be so wrong so often?
You gave me "hundreds" of rebuttals to a statement I NEVER MADE.

How can YOU be so wrong so often, indeed??

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 10:41 PM

Giuliani's 'October Surprise' already shows signs of backfiring
This week's revelations were supposed to make Joe Biden look bad. Instead, they're proving to be a far bigger problem for his GOP accusers.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/giuliani-s-october-surprise-a
lready-shows-signs-backfiring-n1243707


It was a couple of years ago when Steve Bannon was quoted saying, "The Democrats don't matter. The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with s--t."

With this in mind, you probably heard this week from your weird relatives who consume conservative media all day, with emails about a New York Post story that was literally unbelievable. The details are a convoluted mess -- they involve Hunter Biden, a Ukrainian gas company, an alleged laptop, some alleged emails, and an unnamed shop owner in Delaware -- which the conservative tabloid learned of by way of Bannon and Rudy Giuliani.

The problem -- one of them, anyway -- is that the underlying premise of the allegations were discredited quite a while ago, which is why most major news organizations had the good sense to steer clear of the New York Post's report.

Making matters worse is the fact that this effort to "flood the zone with s--t" appears to be backfiring. NBC News reported overnight:

Federal investigators are examining whether the emails allegedly describing activities by Joe Biden and his son Hunter and found on a laptop at a Delaware repair shop are linked to a foreign intelligence operation, two people familiar with the matter told NBC News.

What was apparently intended to be Giuliani's "October Surprise" is looking like the product of a Russian intelligence operation directed at the U.S. presidential election. Indeed, the New York Times had a good report on this a couple of days ago:

Some security experts expressed skepticism about the provenance and authenticity of the emails. The Times reported last January that Burisma had been hacked by the same Russian GRU unit that was one of two groups that hacked the Democratic National Committee in 2016. Last month, United States intelligence analysts contacted several people with knowledge of the Burisma hack for further information after they had picked up chatter that stolen Burisma emails would be leaked in the form of an "October surprise."

If this sounds quite a bit like the scheme that unfolded four years ago around this time, it's not your imagination.
---
Giuliani's "October Surprise" is an epic self-own. Instead of presenting a legitimate concern, he instead demonstrated once again that Trump and his cronies are perfectly happy to actively conspire with hostile foreign intelligence services to flood us with deceit and disinformation.

Kinda like Siggy, huh?

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Monday, October 19, 2020 1:40 AM

You fell for the first round of RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! collusion, completely blew past the Mueller Report saying there wasn't any, and now you're being a sucker of the NYTimes ... again.

There's as much evidence here as there was for Iraq's WMDs. Did you fall for that one, too?

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Monday, October 19, 2020 2:31 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

There's as much evidence here as there was for Iraq's WMDs. Did you fall for that one, too?



You realize that was like..15 YEARS AGO, RIGHT??

You realize no one cares, right??

Maybe move on??


https://refusefascism.org/

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Monday, October 19, 2020 2:33 PM

https://frontier.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-surge-in-republica
n-areas-124951839.html


It would just be ironic as hell if coronavirus mass infection of Chump supporters themselves is what seals his doom

May they all choke!


https://refusefascism.org/

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Monday, October 19, 2020 4:12 PM

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You realize that was like..15 YEARS AGO, RIGHT??

Maybe move on??

Because they'd never ever EVER lie to you again in a bazillion years?



So, instead of ENTERTAINING THE POSSIBILITY that if there was such a MASSIVE LIE orchestrated for SO LONG ACROSS GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND MEDIA just to DUPE YOU ...

... and if they did it once they MIGHT POSSIBLY DO IT AGAIN ...

.... just fuggedaboudit?


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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:02 PM

These people can't see more than 4 years in the future.

Why would you expect them to remember or care about anything that happened more than 4 years ago?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
https://frontier.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-surge-in-republica
n-areas-124951839.html


It would just be ironic as hell if coronavirus mass infection of Chump supporters themselves is what seals his doom

May they all choke!


https://refusefascism.org/




Stay classy, Nilbog.


If anybody ever dissects the RWED in a history class of how the world went crazy in 2020, you're going to see a lot of death wishing coming from the Leftists on this board, and none of it coming from anybody else, despite endless claims to the contrary.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 8:08 PM

Giuliani gave Hunter Biden story to New York Post because 'nobody else would take it' at face value
https://theweek.com/speedreads/944548/giuliani-gave-hunter-biden-story
-new-york-post-because-nobody-else-take-face-value


"It's not something that meets my journalistic standards," one Post reporter told New York Magazine. Another Post reporter called it "very flimsy," adding that the article "just makes you cringe and roll your eyes, and it's hard to stomach, but at the same time we kind of know that you're signing up for stuff like that. ... It's disappointing. It sucks to, like, work for, like, a propaganda outlet."


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Monday, October 19, 2020 8:44 PM

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Stay classy, Nilbog.


If anybody ever dissects the RWED in a history class of how the world went crazy in 2020, you're going to see a lot of death wishing coming from the Leftists on this board, and none of it coming from anybody else, despite endless claims to the contrary.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yeah, reichwingers never do THAT!




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Monday, October 19, 2020 8:59 PM

I'm speaking specifically about the RWED.

You and your alternate personality along with Nilbog regularly wish death on people you don't agree with.


Fun.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 9:44 PM


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Hunter Biden's Laptop "Is Not Some Russian Disinformation Campaign"; DNI Ratcliffe Slams Schiff

It appears the "Russia, Russia, Russia" cries from Adam Schiff and his dutiful media peons is dead (we can only hope) as Director of National Intel John Ratcliffe just confirmed to Foxx Business' Maria Bartiromo that:

"Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

As Politico's Quint Forgey details (@QuintForgey), DNI Ratcliffe is asked directly whether accusations leveled against the Bidens in recent days are part of a Russian disinformation effort.

He says no:

"Let me be clear. The intelligence community doesn't believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that."

"We have shared no intelligence with Chairman Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden's laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign. It's simply not true."

"And this is exactly what I said would I stop when I became the director of national intelligence, and that's people using the intelligence community to leverage some political narrative."

"And in this case, apparently Chairman Schiff wants anything against his preferred political candidate to be deemed as not real and as using the intelligence community or attempting to use the intelligence community to say there's nothing to see here."

"Don't drag the intelligence community into this. Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign. And I think it's clear that the American people know that."




CLEAR ENUF? NOT RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!

Quote:

Of course, this 'fact' from 'intelligence' is unlikely to stop the "emails are Russian" narrative growing ever louder as MSM attempt to distract from the actual content of the emails.


So,will you be distracted by a bunch of red confetti thrown into the air?

Quote:

As Caitlin Johnstone noted:

So “the emails are Russian” narrative serves the interests of political convenience, partisan media ratings, and the national security state’s pre-planned agenda to continue escalating against Russia as part of its slow motion third world war against nations which refuse to bow to US dictates, and you’ve got essentially no critical mainstream news coverage putting the brakes on any of it. This means this narrative is going to become mainstream orthodoxy and treated as an established fact, despite the fact that there is no actual, tangible evidence for it.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and the mainstream press would crucify any journalist who so much as tweeted about it. Very little journalism is going into vetting and challenging him, and a great deal of the energy that would normally be doing so is going into ensuring that he slides right into the White House.

If the mainstream news really existed to tell you the truth about what’s going on, everyone would know about every questionable decision that Joe Biden has ever made, Russiagate would never have happened, we’d all be acutely aware of the fact that powerful forces are pushing us into increasingly aggressive confrontations with two nuclear-armed nations, and Trump would be grilled about Yemen in every press conference.

But the mainstream news does not exist to tell you the truth about the world. The mainstream news exists to advance the interests of its wealthy owners and the status quo upon which they have built their kingdoms. That’s why it’s so very, very important that we find ways to break away from it and share information with each other that isn’t tainted by corrupt and powerful interes

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Monday, October 19, 2020 9:48 PM



This is how we know you're a Russian troll.

How's the weather in St. Petersburg, comrade?


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Monday, October 19, 2020 10:04 PM

You're a figment of Second's imagination. You don't even have a body of your own, let alone a country to call home.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 10:08 PM

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You're a figment of Second's imagination. You don't even have a body of your own, let alone a country to call home.

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Libel is what REAVERBOT resorts to when he has, literally, nothing to post.


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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:03 PM

I would not care if Hunter Biden embezzled zillions and had relations with a dead donkey on film.

The mantra of the low-information voter: I don't care about facts.


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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:04 PM

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This is how we know you're a Russian troll.

How's the weather in St. Petersburg, comrade?





RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I would not care if Hunter Biden embezzled zillions and had relations with a dead donkey on film.

The mantra of the low-information voter: I don't care about facts.



The facts have been presented. It's proven bullshit, Russian troll.

God, you're such an idiot. Don't even know when you're defeated.

It's cute how you try to retain a shred of dignity when the whole forum is laughing at your stupid troll ass.




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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:46 AM

Lies are not facts.

You should probably look up both of those words in a dictionary.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:55 AM

The facts just keep pouring in.

FBI Examining Hunter’s Laptop As Foreign Op, Contradicting Trump’s Intel Czar
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-examining-hunter-bidens-laptop-as-fo
reign-op-contradicting-john-ratcliffe-trumps-intel-czar


One senior intelligence official told The Daily Beast that the community is still working to determine if the Hunter Biden materials—which were leaked to the press by Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani—stem from a specific Russian intelligence operation. Giuliani has for years worked with Ukrainian parliamentarians with links to Russia, including one “Russian agent,” to propagate disinformation about the Obama administration and the Biden family, including Hunter Biden. While Giuliani and his confidantes have previously spoken publicly about Hunter Biden’s drug use, intelligence officials are investigating whether this last-minute push to release material through Trump-friendly media outlets stems from some particular directive from Moscow or whether it is an extension of Giuliani’s years-long effort to use Ukrainian intermediaries to dig up dirt on the Bidens.

Whatever the case may be, intelligence officials say the recent packaging of the Hunter Biden material looks similar to something the Russians would do to sow chaos in U.S. domestic politics. But, officials say, Moscow wouldn’t necessarily need to muddy the waters by being directly involved in the latest dissemination of materials because Giuliani has already taken the lead.

“The Intelligence Community has stated publicly that Russia is once again seeking to benefit Donald Trump’s election campaign by denigrating Joe Biden,” said Patrick Boland, spokesman for Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), who chairs the House Intelligence Committee. “The new wave of attacks we are seeing … are consistent with the false and unsubstantiated narratives that the President, his personal lawyer, and a sanctioned Russian agent have been pushing for well over a year. They appear intended to distract from recent reports that the White House, as early as December 2019, was made aware that Rudy Giuliani was being leveraged by Russian proxies as part of Kremlin efforts to interfere in our election.”


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:18 AM

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Hunter Biden's Laptop "Is Not Some Russian Disinformation Campaign"; DNI Ratcliffe Slams Schiff

It appears the "Russia, Russia, Russia" cries from Adam Schiff and his dutiful media peons is dead (we can only hope) as Director of National Intel John Ratcliffe just confirmed to Foxx Business' Maria Bartiromo that:

"Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

As Politico's Quint Forgey details (@QuintForgey), DNI Ratcliffe is asked directly whether accusations leveled against the Bidens in recent days are part of a Russian disinformation effort.

He says no:

"Let me be clear. The intelligence community doesn't believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that."

"We have shared no intelligence with Chairman Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden's laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign. It's simply not true."

"And this is exactly what I said would I stop when I became the director of national intelligence, and that's people using the intelligence community to leverage some political narrative."

"And in this case, apparently Chairman Schiff wants anything against his preferred political candidate to be deemed as not real and as using the intelligence community or attempting to use the intelligence community to say there's nothing to see here."

"Don't drag the intelligence community into this. Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign. And I think it's clear that the American people know that."


CLEAR ENUF? NOT RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!
Quote:

Of course, this 'fact' from 'intelligence' is unlikely to stop the "emails are Russian" narrative growing ever louder as MSM attempt to distract from the actual content of the emails.
So,will you be distracted by a bunch of red confetti thrown into the air?
Quote:

As Caitlin Johnstone noted:
So “the emails are Russian” narrative serves the interests of political convenience, partisan media ratings, and the national security state’s pre-planned agenda to continue escalating against Russia as part of its slow motion third world war against nations which refuse to bow to US dictates, and you’ve got essentially no critical mainstream news coverage putting the brakes on any of it. This means this narrative is going to become mainstream orthodoxy and treated as an established fact, despite the fact that there is no actual, tangible evidence for it.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and the mainstream press would crucify any journalist who so much as tweeted about it. Very little journalism is going into vetting and challenging him, and a great deal of the energy that would normally be doing so is going into ensuring that he slides right into the White House.

If the mainstream news really existed to tell you the truth about what’s going on, everyone would know about every questionable decision that Joe Biden has ever made, Russiagate would never have happened, we’d all be acutely aware of the fact that powerful forces are pushing us into increasingly aggressive confrontations with two nuclear-armed nations, and Trump would be grilled about Yemen in every press conference.

But the mainstream news does not exist to tell you the truth about the world. The mainstream news exists to advance the interests of its wealthy owners and the status quo upon which they have built their kingdoms. That’s why it’s so very, very important that we find ways to break away from it and share information with each other that isn’t tainted by corrup

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:32 AM

Rudy Giuliani said he released his Hunter Biden story to the New York Post because he knew other outlets would scrutinize it too much
https://www.businessinsider.com/giulliani-released-biden-story-nypost-
over-scrutinization-concerns-nyt-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com


But, since Rupert owns that rag, anything goes. Real papers would fact check it. Can't have that!


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:47 AM

QAnon Is Running the Pizzagate Playbook With Hunter Biden
But this time, the conspiracy theory is being shared and spread by mainstream Republican figures, not just fringe groups.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9z4a/qanon-is-running-the-pizzagate-
playbook-with-hunter-biden?utm_source=reddit.com





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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:55 AM

Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:20 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.



God, you're a shitty troll.


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:20 AM






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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:52 AM


Hunter has brain issues. He can't keep track of important things. OOPS. I forgot to give up coke. OOPS. I forgot I fathered a child. OOPS. I forgot to bleach bit my laptop before I sent it in. DOUBLE OOPS. I forgot to pick it up.

He's like that problem child in some families. You never know what mess they're going to get themselves into next.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:11 AM

lol.

Don't you hate it when you forget to give up coke?

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:19 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

OOPS. I forgot to bleach bit my laptop before I sent it in. DOUBLE OOPS. I forgot to pick it up.

OOPS: FBI examining "Hunter Biden’s" laptop as a Russian disinformation effort targeting the 2020 election, contradicting Trump’s intel czar

The Daily Beast reports:

The FBI is investigating the purloined laptop materials from Joe Biden’s son as part of a possible foreign disinformation operation, a congressional source told The Daily Beast—an investigation at odds with a statement from President Trump’s director of national intelligence.

John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence, told Fox Business on Monday that the dissemination of materials from Hunter Biden’s alleged laptop was not part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

But that assessment gets out in front of the FBI, which took custody of the laptop and an external hard drive as early as in December, according to the New York Post. The bureau, according to the congressional source, is looking into the provenance of the material. And among the questions they’re seeking to answer is whether the laptop dump is part of what the intelligence community’s counterintelligence chief has already described as a Russian disinformation effort targeting the 2020 election.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-examining-hunter-bidens-laptop-as-fo
reign-op-contradicting-john-ratcliffe-trumps-intel-czar


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 5:22 AM

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 5:27 AM

Hunter Biden's laptop: A Russian trick, a hack-job — or just what it looks like?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hunter-bidens-laptop-a-russian
-trick-a-hack-job-or-just-what-it-looks-like/ar-BB1ab1bE



Ratcliffe: No proof foreign actors tied to 'Biden' laptop.
Officials: FBI is probing

https://news.yahoo.com/ratcliffe-no-proof-foreign-actors-174959564.htm
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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:25 AM

Trump has told associates he plans on pushing out FBI Director Christopher Wray because the "Hunter Biden" alleged laptop is not being used by the FBI as a tool to win Trump's reelection. The FBI is convinced that Russians had their hands on the laptop.

www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-examining-hunter-bidens-laptop-as-foreign-op
-contradicting-john-ratcliffe-trumps-intel-czar


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:36 AM

Second and the other freaks just posting a bunch of bullshit interceptions from lefty shill globalist media that hates America.

Fuck you, Second. It's not going to work.

Trump wins reelection easily.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:28 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Trump wins reelection easily.




I'm completely sure he sits around chanting that to himself, and just like nutty Kiki, will sit around chanting it to himself 15 years from now





https://refusefascism.org/

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:52 AM

Hon, I have never made a prediction either way. And you posting that I have - well, QUOTES AND LINKS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:56 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second and the other freaks just posting a bunch of bullshit interceptions from lefty shill globalist media that hates America.

Fuck you, Second. It's not going to work.

Trump wins reelection easily.

Trump win or lose, I will win. There is a 38% chance Trump wins according to https://odds.watch/trump-2020

I feel it's a higher likelihood, closer to 50/50 because half the people I know in Texas are batshit crazy and voting for Trump. I get tremendous free entertainment from their antics and also a dump truck load of money from the same people as Trump does. If Trump loses, he will have to find a new way to make a living, but I'll keep on taking those fools' cash. Trump has MAGA for me.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:55 AM

No. You have no money. Neither of your split personalities do.

Nobody believes you.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. I have no money. Neither of my split personalities do.


Do Nothing, Be Nothing, Have Nothing, Think Nothing :)




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https://refusefascism.org/

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:15 PM

I am so much better off than your redneck inbred family is, Nilbog.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:05 PM

As President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani attempts to alter the course of the election through the leaking of fake materials allegedly from the computer of a "Hunter Biden", fellow Republicans — including some in the president’s orbit — are holding their breath.

Rudy Giuliani says there is Only ‘50/50’ Chance I Worked With a ‘Russian Spy’ to Fake Dirt on Biden.
www.thedailybeast.com/even-parts-of-trumpworld-are-wondering-wtf-rudy-
giuliani-is-doing


Unlike the fake dirt on Biden, Trump's dirty tax returns won't be in prosecutors' hands until after the election and Trump won't have to explain how paying no taxes for a decade is not criminal. This is real dirt on Trump.
www.cnn.com/2020/10/19/opinions/trump-five-court-losses-tax-returns-ho
nig/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:09 PM

Yanno SECONDRATE, unlike most everyone else on thos board, you've actually killed people. More than even the dirtiest cop, I would imagine. More than most hardended criminals.

You lie repeatedly, and you hate an awful lot of people.

Why the focus on taxes? It is the least of sins.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 5:06 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECONDRATE, unlike most everyone else on thos board, you've actually killed people. More than even the dirtiest cop, I would imagine. More than most hardended criminals.

You lie repeatedly, and you hate an awful lot of people.

Why the focus on taxes? It is the least of sins.

Because a felon can't be President?

Because Trump owes the US Treasury billions of dollars?

Because Trump fights to hide decades of tax crimes?

Trump promised many times to be open about his taxes, but then he went to Court many-many-many times as President to keep his taxes a top secret.

2018: Trump engaged in 'outright fraud' to avoid taxes
https://web.archive.org/web/20181002234942/https://www.businessinsider
.com/new-york-times-trump-tax-fraud-father-fred-inheritance-2018-10


2020: The most shocking revelations about Trump's tax returns
https://web.archive.org/web/20201001024408/https://www.businessinsider
.com/trump-tax-returns-new-york-times-summary-shocking-revelations-2020-9


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:07 PM

A) The IRS knows, and has always known what is in Trump's tax returns.

B) There is no law stating that a presidential candidate needs to show his tax returns.

Get over it, idiot.

Then make sure that some time in the far future when your guy wins again, you make him change that law.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:52 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
A) The IRS knows, and has always known what is in Trump's tax returns.

B) There is no law stating that a presidential candidate needs to show his tax returns.

Get over it, idiot.

Then make sure that some time in the far future when your guy wins again, you make him change that law.

The law cannot be changed without the cooperation of the Republicans in the Senate. That is certainly not the way a legislative body would be organized if you wished to live in a smoothly functioning country, just as you don't let the defendant's family on the jury for a criminal trial. I have never known a Republican who wasn't cheating on taxes. It's why Congressional Republicans complain about taxes being too high. Too high is how they justify their own criminal cheating.

Nixon's Tax Cheating
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df8007
5b9dd/f8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

The IRS had all the same information as Congress subpoenaed, but the IRS completely missed 8 simple and obvious ways Nixon cheated. Paying what he owed for only 4 years of cheating while in the White House almost wiped out Nixon's entire fortune. Good thing Nixon had a pension for all his "service" to the nation or he would have been left impoverished during retirement. Same could happen to Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Libel is what REAVERBOT resorts to when he has, literally, nothing to post.




I destroyed you. Again. I always do.

Live with it. Live with the burning humiliation of being proven wrong.

I bet the other Russian trolls near your cubicle all laugh at you, too.


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECONDRATE, unlike most everyone else on thos board, you've actually killed people. More than even the dirtiest cop, I would imagine. More than most hardended criminals.
You lie repeatedly, and you hate an awful lot of people.
Why the focus on taxes? It is the least of sins.

SECOND: Because a felon can't be President?

Then why not focus on Presidents like Obama, who really DID destroy the Constitution with his spying on everyone, executing Americans without a trial (yanno, his famous "kill list"), and protecting fraudulent bankers? This focus on taxes is like YOUR one claim to righteousness, because you sure can't claim to be a decent person any other way!

You know, every time you post about taxes, I can't help think about the Pharisee in the bible. Or that parable about seeing the mote in your brother's eye and not the log in your own. (I guess that log must really interfere with your vision!)

Besides, I agree with SIX: The IRS has his tax returns and I'll bet there's nothing unusual in there. ALL of the billionaires pay less taxes than I do! YOU probably pay less taxes than I do! It's the way the tax rules are written. If you really want to gripe MEANINGFULLY about taxes instead of just virtue-signalling all day long, then why not advocate putting corporations and people on an equal footing? (But, that would mean you'd have to pay about 1000X more in taxes than you already do!)

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Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Besides, I agree with SIX: The IRS has his tax returns and I'll bet there's nothing unusual in there. ALL of the billionaires pay less taxes than I do! YOU probably pay less taxes than I do! It's the way the tax rules are written. If you really want to gripe MEANINGFULLY about taxes instead of just virtue-signalling all day long, then why not advocate putting corporations and people on an equal footing? (But, that would mean you'd have to pay about 1000X more in taxes than you already do!)



That's the whole point of this Trump Tax thing, and Second either knows it, or he's a fucking moron.

If his taxes were released, out of the entire mountain of paperwork that they entail compared to the 10 or so pages a guy like me files to state and federal every year, the media is going to take about 5 of those highly selectively edited pages and "dumb it down" in the way that most enrages the idiots who don't know how things work.

Trump didn't "cheat". He paid a ridiculous amount to a team of tax attorneys to pay the absolute minimum possible, which I'm sure entailed a lot of depreciation of assets and all sorts of other things that make it look like he doesn't actually make much money, when that's obviously not the truth. Except for putting his John Hancock on the forms where needed, he probably didn't look at a single page of his taxes in the last 40 years.

The IRS knows what's in there. He'd have been in prison years ago, along with all of his legal team being disbarred and joining him if they cheated the actual tax code as written.

Second just wants it released to the public so the people at Vox and Mother Jones along with Rachel Maddow can lie about them.


They could literally take any rich person's taxes and make the same points about them, but that's the exact opposite of what they want to do. Their corporate Masters would frown heavily upon letting everybody know just how fucked the tax code is for rich people. It has to be specifically about Trump or it's not going to see the light of day.



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Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.

And why have Joe Biden and Hunter Biden (and lawyers) not stated clearly that the emails are not real, the laptop is not Hunter's?

When asked about it, they just say they can't talk about it, and they divert by siccing the Fake News on the computer store guy, or on Rudy, or on anybody else they can think of.

That answer is almost as obvious as not being able to answer if Joe will stack SCOTUS.

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Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Besides, I agree with SIX: The IRS has his tax returns and I'll bet there's nothing unusual in there. ALL of the billionaires pay less taxes than I do! YOU probably pay less taxes than I do! It's the way the tax rules are written.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 21, 2020 1:50 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.

And why have Joe Biden and Hunter Biden (and lawyers) not stated clearly that the emails are not real, the laptop is not Hunter's?

When asked about it, they just say they can't talk about it, and they divert by siccing the Fake News on the computer store guy, or on Rudy, or on anybody else they can think of.

That answer is almost as obvious as not being able to answer if Joe will stack SCOTUS.



He won't say who he'd put in the court either if Barrett wasn't going to be confirmed.

He's completely unable to tell the truth about anything because he's catering to two entirely different bases.

Democrats are fucked.

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