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Quote:There you go again with the insinuation that Obama could change the minimum wage without Congress. The GOP Senators stood in his way, making sure it did not go up. If Biden becomes President, the GOP Senators will still be there stopping the minimum wage from being raised to $15 per hour.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:You tell me - who was president in 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? 2015? 2016?
Stop yourself for just a second, 1kiki. Please go look intensely at just the minimum wage. Come up with your own theory of why it has been stuck at one number since July 24, 2009.
MEANWHILE - why did the wages decline during Obama's presidency?
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/
As for www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/ -- You know wages are set by people like me. If we want to pay only $20 per hour on average, which is well above minimum, we can keep it at $20 for decades with inflation actually slowly eroding what $20 is worth. It's like a stealthy pay decrease. The Federal Reserve knows what the top 1 Percenters are doing and as long as there are 34 or more GOP Senators, we cannot be stopped:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=uOsx
https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2018/02/are-wages-increasing-or-decrea
sing/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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There were two whole years when democrats had control of Congress and the WH. That would have been an opportune time for them to show how much they cared about the average American worker.
But Obama showed who he REALLY cared about pleasing when his administration prosecuted no one significant for the meltdown, and then shoveled money as fast as possible to financialism while leaving average Americans to twist in the wind.
He couldn't even put his MOUTH behind the pretense of caring ... let alone reform an economy that's been crushing working Americans for decades.
That's the difference between democrats and Trump - and even Trump and republicans. Trump says the economic emperor has no clothes.
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Quote:1kiki. you are kidding. President Obama had a majority that was only filibuster proof for a period of 72 working days while the Senate was actually in session. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But Obama showed who he REALLY cared about pleasing when his administration prosecuted no one significant for the meltdown, and then shoveled money as fast as possible to financialism while leaving average Americans to twist in the wind.
He couldn't even put his MOUTH behind the pretense of caring ... let alone reform an economy that's been crushing working Americans for decades.
That's the difference between democrats and Trump - and even Trump and republicans. Trump says the economic emperor has no clothes.
It was less than "72 days". One of Obama's so-called 60 members of his filibuster proof Senators was Joe Lieberman, who actually quit the Democrats and had been elected by the "CT for Lieberman" party because Joe had lost in the Democratic primary. Lieberman famously screwed over the Democrats during the drafting of Obamacare.
Another of Obama's so-called 60 Democratic Senators was Senator Arlen Specter, who switched from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party on April 28, 2009. Specter was still a Republican in everything but name.
How did Obama lose his 60 nominally Democratic Senators, which he must have to get around the stonewall of the GOP? The April 2009 party switch of Pennsylvania senator Arlen Specter from Republican to Democrat and the July 2009 resolution of the Minnesota election in favor of Democrat Al Franken increased the Democratic majority to 60–40. Republicans gained a seat in a January 2010 special election in Massachusetts, making the balance 59-41 before the start of the next election cycle. AT THAT POINT, UNTIL THE END OF OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PASS ANY LAW THE GOP OBJECTED TO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_Senate_elections
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:There you go again with the insinuation that Obama could change the minimum wage without Congress. The GOP Senators stood in his way, making sure it did not go up. If Biden becomes President, the GOP Senators will still be there stopping the minimum wage from being raised to $15 per hour.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:You tell me - who was president in 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? 2015? 2016?
Stop yourself for just a second, 1kiki. Please go look intensely at just the minimum wage. Come up with your own theory of why it has been stuck at one number since July 24, 2009.
MEANWHILE - why did the wages decline during Obama's presidency?
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/
As for www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/ -- You know wages are set by people like me. If we want to pay only $20 per hour on average, which is well above minimum, we can keep it at $20 for decades with inflation actually slowly eroding what $20 is worth. It's like a stealthy pay decrease. The Federal Reserve knows what the top 1 Percenters are doing and as long as there are 34 or more GOP Senators, we cannot be stopped:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=uOsx
https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2018/02/are-wages-increasing-or-decrea
sing/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Exactly as I said on the last post of the previous page that people may have missed:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:You tell me - who was president in 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? 2015? 2016?
Stop yourself for just a second, 1kiki. Please go look intensely at just the minimum wage. Come up with your own theory of why it has been stuck at one number since July 24, 2009.
MEANWHILE - why did the wages decline during Obama's presidency?
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/
Queue Second bitching about Republicans in Congress.
Because he uses the same cop out every time he's asked about this.
And honestly, if he gives a single shit about this issue (which he doesn't) it makes me wonder why he even cares about Biden being elected since it's not going to change the minimum wage at all and in the alternate timeline where Biden wins the minimum wage isn't going to change in any meaningful way anyhow and he'd just use the same excuse for the next 4 to 8 years.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Second did not disappoint.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I figured out what is wrong with 6ix, 1kiki, and Signym. You three are the political science equivalent of a Flat Earther. Here is a real physicist talking seriously about the Flat Earth "Science" -- Wrong, but not Stupid. You should listen to it and learn how smart people can be very wrong yet it is impossible to change their minds with words:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second did not disappoint.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat, the movement of the Sun; these are all examples of your senses telling you that we do not live on a spherical heliocentric world. This is using what's called an empirical approach, or an approach that relies on information from your senses." - www.tfes.org
You will love the section called "Astronomy is a Pseudoscience". All those telescopes in the world or in orbit? That is NOT science according to the Flat Earth Society.
https://wiki.tfes.org/Astronomy_is_a_Pseudoscience
"Astronomy does not, and can not, follow the Scientific Method; which is an empirical method of inquiry which demands that hypothesis is tested with experiment. The astronomer cannot put the stars under controlled experimental conditions to demonstrate ideas and come to the truth of a matter, as a chemist can do with his or her materials. The astronomer can only observe and interpret—a scientific fallacy which hinders truth and progress."
"No man knows the ultimate shape of the earth, but that portion we live on is definitely flat. No one will ever know what the whole complexity is like, I suppose, because it goes beyond his sphere of observation, investigation and comprehension." – Samuel Shenton
"I don't think there is solid proof the earth is round. I'm not intentionally being stubborn about it, but I feel our senses tell us these things, and it would take an extraordinary level of evidence to counteract those. How many people have actually investigated it? Have you?" – Daniel Shenton
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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^ This entire post is based off of an erroneous belief that Second's opinion is universally accepted and scientifically backed.
Not only are neither of those things true, but both of them could be said about his own opinions.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. 
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Quote:33% of Americans are Republicans. 33% of Americans are unsure the world is round.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ This entire post is based off of an erroneous belief that Second's opinion is universally accepted and scientifically backed.
Not only are neither of those things true, but both of them could be said about his own opinions.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/04/only-two-thirds-of-american
-millennials-believe-the-earth-is-round/
YouGov polled 8,215 US adults on February 8th, 2018 to get a representative idea of America's views on the shape of the Earth. What they found would make any scientist shake their heads, a surprising percentage of responders weren't convinced the Earth is round.
Why so many people believe the Earth is flat and NASA is in on the 'conspiracy'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/many-people-believe-earth-flat-2
1592454
As part of an ongoing attempt to prove that the Earth is flat, he shot off into the sky on a steam-powered homemade rocket aiming to reach 5,000ft, the very edge of space, before returning to the Earth with some kind of evidence that had apparently eluded scientists thus far. Unfortunately, Mr Morris did in fact return to Earth but, as his parachute had failed to deploy correctly, he was killed. Before his death, Mr Morris said, “I just want people to question everything. Question what your congressman is doing, your city council. Question what really happened during the Civil War. What happened during 9/11.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I am certain that the GOP will oppose in the Senate the following:
How to decarbonize America — and create 25 million jobs
The US has the technology to decarbonize by 2035. Here’s a plan to do it.
The point is that America has enough renewable resources such that we could probably keep exactly the same lifestyles, and if we do it all electrically, we can do it at half the energy. And we can produce all of that energy cleanly, domestically in America.
Today, if you’re paying about 10 cents per kilowatt-hour for electricity and putting it into an electric car, that’s about two or three cents per mile. If you’re paying two or three dollars a gallon for gasoline into an equivalent-sized car, you’re paying more like 15 cents a mile for the fuel. So you’re saving more than 10 cents for every mile you’re driving with an electric vehicle.
We do need to focus very clearly on keeping the cost of the electricity low. If we look around, there is proof that that can be done. Australia has very successfully run policies and utility regulation that has enabled rooftop solar in Australia to cost about six or seven cents per kilowatt-hour, cheaper than basically any utility in America can deliver. So there is a future where the cheapest energy that you can use will be the solar. (I’m paying 8.0 cents per kilowatt-hour for 100% renewable from Green Energy Exchange https://getgex.com )
More at www.vox.com/podcasts/2020/8/27/21403184/saul-griffith-ezra-klein-show-
solve-climate-change-green-new-deal-rewiring-america
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:33% of Americans are Republicans. 33% of Americans are unsure the world is round.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ This entire post is based off of an erroneous belief that Second's opinion is universally accepted and scientifically backed.
Not only are neither of those things true, but both of them could be said about his own opinions.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/04/only-two-thirds-of-american
-millennials-believe-the-earth-is-round/
YouGov polled 8,215 US adults on February 8th, 2018 to get a representative idea of America's views on the shape of the Earth. What they found would make any scientist shake their heads, a surprising percentage of responders weren't convinced the Earth is round.
Why so many people believe the Earth is flat and NASA is in on the 'conspiracy'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/many-people-believe-earth-flat-2
1592454
As part of an ongoing attempt to prove that the Earth is flat, he shot off into the sky on a steam-powered homemade rocket aiming to reach 5,000ft, the very edge of space, before returning to the Earth with some kind of evidence that had apparently eluded scientists thus far. Unfortunately, Mr Morris did in fact return to Earth but, as his parachute had failed to deploy correctly, he was killed. Before his death, Mr Morris said, “I just want people to question everything. Question what your congressman is doing, your city council. Question what really happened during the Civil War. What happened during 9/11.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
^ False Dichotomy
https://wiki.c2.com/?FalseDichotomy
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The Flat Earthers also screech about False Dichotomies, thinking of themselves as very sophisticated people who realized that astronomers are not scientific because they have performed no experiments to prove the Earth is round, at least not proof that Flat Earthers will accept. Republicans are still the political science equivalent of Flat Earthers who, being extremely sophisticated people, refuse to accept proof that doesn't meet their exacting criteria.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ False Dichotomy
https://wiki.c2.com/?FalseDichotomy
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Dude, quit pretending you're anywhere on my level.
You're a retard that's hardly capable of even typing.
Everything you say and everything you do is bullshit. Your life is meaningless. You are a waste of carbon, and you insult me by breathing the same air that I do.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude, quit pretending you're anywhere on my level.
You're a retard that's hardly capable of even typing.
Everything you say and everything you do is bullshit. Your life is meaningless. You are a waste of carbon, and you insult me by breathing the same air that I do.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Jacks about as smart as this guy.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:Homo sapiens have been around for 315,000 years or more. For most of that time, humans weren't accomplishing much. If I had to speculate why so little material progress was made in prehistory, or why so many Republicans I know in Texas don't prosper, I'd say that it was not because ancient humans or today's Republicans have weak, primitive brains in their heads, but that the ideas in our heads have held humanity back and made 6ix's life less rewarding.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude, quit pretending you're anywhere on my level.
You're a retard that's hardly capable of even typing.
Everything you say and everything you do is bullshit. Your life is meaningless. You are a waste of carbon, and you insult me by breathing the same air that I do.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Jacks about as smart as this guy.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
When Did Homo Sapiens First Appear?
www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/when-did-homo-sapiens-first-appe
ar
The oldest Homo sapiens fossils that anthropologists have found thus far date to around 315,000 years ago. That means we can say that modern humans are at least that old. But our lineage likely extends further back in time — we just don’t have the fossils to prove it.
DNA evidence drawn from comparisons of different human genomes, as well as those of close cousins like Neanderthals and Denisovans, put the split between the three groups at at least 400,000 years ago. So it’s possible that H. sapiens is over half a million years old.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Please stop repeating that stupid, debunked lie. It just makes you look even dumber, if that's possible.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There were two whole years when democrats had control of Congress and the WH.
https://www.beaconjournal.com/article/20120909/NEWS/309099447
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Ex-OANN Reporter Emily Miller Out as FDA Spokeswoman After Just 11 Days on the Job
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-oann-reporter-emily-miller-fired-as-f
da-spokeswoman-after-just-11-days-on-the-job
That didn't last long. Oh well, she'll find another grift.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There were two whole years when democrats had control of Congress and the WH.
Quote:Remember Harry Reid? "Harry Reid ... was the Senate Majority Leader from 2007 to 2015." Wikipedia
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Please stop repeating that stupid, debunked lie. It just makes you look even dumber, if that's possible.
https://www.beaconjournal.com/article/20120909/NEWS/309099447]
Yanno, THAT Harry Reid - the human-shaped marshmallow that NEVER ONCE got up on its hind legs to make the republicans actually - what's that word - filibuster?
Nope. Democratic Senators just shrugged their shoulders and all agreed collect their paychecks and go home quietly without making any effort at all - let alone use the filibuster as an ongoing tactic so republicans would make a major spectacle of themselves.
And Obama was fine with it. And why not? DEMOCRATS REALLY DIDN'T CARE ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY EFFORT AT ALL.
Yep. Obama's first year as president was the year his approval rating dropped from 68% to 48% AND NEVER RECOVERED because of all the things he DIDN'T do, and all the things he DID do that were the opposite of getting justice for the average worker - failure to prosecute banksters (he actually protected them), putting the government is deep debt by endlessly shoveling money at financialism, and his failure to protect home owners.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chickenshit-club_n_5963fcc6e4b005b0fdc7
bacb
How Obama’s Failure To Prosecute Wall Street Set The Stage For Trump’s Win
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_app
roval-1044.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/23/untouchables-wal
l-street-prosecutions-obama
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
ETA: RF I find it interesting that you're such a radical you're ready to endorse violence ... and yet you can't find it in your heart to criticize Obama democrats for failing to perform the simplest legislative tactics.
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Quote:If you think Obama had the power to punish the bankers, you have never litigated a complex case. Any banker who could afford a competent legal team could have kept the Federal Court System tied in knots for decades. I'll give you a simple legislative tactic that bypasses the slow court system: GOP Senators should threaten to remove Trump from office if he breaks a law. That can't be used on bankers, but can be used on Presidents and is brutally fast if the Senate wants it to be.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
ETA: RF I find it interesting that you're such a radical you're ready to endorse violence ... and yet you can't find it in your heart to criticize Obama democrats for failing to perform the simplest legislative tactics.
In that contest between President and the GOP Senators, the Winner is always Donald Trump
That the president of the United States chose to stage his convention speech at the White House as a flagrant violation of the Hatch Act is on some level not important.
But maybe it’s the most important thing of all.
In the earliest days of his political career it was often said Trump wouldn’t really run for president, because if he did he would “have to” release his tax returns and engage in other forms of financial disclosure. As a candidate, even Trump himself claimed to believe he would “have to” divest himself from control over his operating companies. And in the early days of his administration, he would frequently be told that on the small number of policy issues he did care about, there were various legal or constitutional reasons he couldn’t do what he wanted to do.
But as his first term enters its final months, it’s now clear to everyone that none of that is true. If I earnestly wrote that it is bad that the president of the United States is in a position to collect cash bribes in unlimited quantities through his hotels and opaque network of shell companies, I’d be laughed out of the room as hopelessly naive and a tedious bore to boot. The smart set of DC journalists who set the political agenda declared days ago that the Hatch Act is something real people don’t care about, so the same television networks that devoted more time to Hillary Clinton’s emails than all policy issues combined in 2016 feel free to ignore it.
Fundamentally, the American system of government depends on the supposition that a president’s co-partisans in Congress will be bothered by lawbreaking — especially lawbreaking that has no ideological purpose. What congressional Republicans learned about themselves in this year’s impeachment process is that they aren’t actually bothered. And now Trump knows that they know this. And they know that Trump knows that they know it. So in essence, the gloves are off, the rule of law is dead, and we’re simply left with the question of whether or not Trump’s illegal orders are followed.
Sure, Trump’s finishing speech was long, tedious, and poorly delivered. But he also used the convention to broadcast a series of blatant lies about his administration’s competency, largely uninterrupted, for 10-plus hours over the course of four nights.
And while the theme Trump pushed all week, on the side of police and law and order, could have come across flat — much like his “immigrants are coming to kill you” argument did in 2018 — events in Kenosha, Wisconsin, made the message suddenly relevant, and some Democrats are newly worried at the prospect of a Trump reelection.
For a political neophyte often caricatured by both his foes and his allies as somewhat dimwitted, it’s genuinely an impressive achievement, and it’ll be his no matter what the outcome in November.
www.vox.com/2020/8/28/21404956/winners-and-losers-rnc
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I see you had to step in for your alternate persona who very obviously couldn't address the issue - by trying to derail the topic - since you can't seem to address it either.
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
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The problem comrade kiki has SECOND. Is that the majority of Americans and the world thinks Obama was a great President. I'd say that negates any complaints she has about him.
As Trumps Presidency unfolds. Kiki finds different ways to deflect away any and all, mayhem in the streets due to Trump. Any and all, harm to our relations with our allies. Any and all, of his stupid foreign policy decisions and pandering to dictators. Any and all, of his attempts to dismantle our democratic institutions. Any and all, of his complete disregard for the rule of law. Any and all, of his trolling tweet attacks against good and honorable people. Any and all, of his thousands upon thousands of lies.
The list of Trumps any and all’s is endless. So I'll just say; all the different ways comrade kiki finds to defend him shows who she is. It also shows the issues she complains about are completely and thoroughly disingenuous. She has no real concerns, other than Trump staying in the White House.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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I see you had to step in for your comrade who very obviously couldn't address the issue - by trying to derail the topic - though you can't seem to address it either.
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I see you had to step in for your comrade who very obviously couldn't address the issue - by trying to derail the topic - though you can't seem to address it either.
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
Nope, the Parmenter's of any topic is what the title says they are to be. "A thread for Democrats Only." Topics are to be confined to what democrats want to discuss. Not Russian trolls. Take it from me. I created the thread comrade. So shoo...
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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And yet here you are, an avowed independent posting in "A thread for Democrats Only", who doesn't want a registered democrat to opine on democrats.
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:You might want to look at the $trillions that got spent to help people out of work this year. For Democrats, they were helping those who are out of work. For the GOP, the money was to reelect Trump. Then the GOP decided Trump had not gotten a boost from all the spending, so the Senate killed $3 trillion more spending on the unemployed by the House of Representatives Democrats. www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/coronavirus-stimulus-relief-money/inde
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I see you had to step in for your comrade who very obviously couldn't address the issue - by trying to derail the topic - though you can't seem to address it either.
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
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1kiki, over all those decades, don't you remember a least one damn thing about Obamacare, Medicare, Social Security, Minimum Wage, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? Over the last 4 decades it was Democrats making those better or preventing Republicans from doing away with them completely. When Republicans are in ascendancy, they tried to kill each or, if that is not possible, make each of them worse by suing or placing incompetent administrators in charge. Sometimes the GOP succeeded in making things worse. The GOP has certainly put in their maximum effort. Just look at Obamacare, where the GOP has gone to crazy lengths to sabotage it. Go ahead and read one article, 1kiki, and try for once in your life to understand politics:
Opposition to Obamacare Becomes Political Liability for GOP Incumbents
https://khn.org/news/opposition-to-obamacare-becomes-political-liabili
ty-for-gop-incumbents/
How crazy are the Republicans? This crazy: GOP Aims To Kill Obamacare Yet Again After Failing 70 Times
www.newsweek.com/gop-health-care-bill-repeal-and-replace-70-failed-att
empts-643832
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Fact of the Day: Manufacturing as a % of the Workforce, 1985-2020
Margaret Sullivan notes today that fact checking has outlived its usefulness:
As scholars have observed, calling out falsehoods forcefully may actually cause people to hold tighter to their beliefs. That’s the “backfire effect” that academics Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler wrote about in their study “When Corrections Fail” about the persistence of political misperceptions: “Direct factual contradictions can actually strengthen ideologically grounded factual beliefs.”
Fact checking has always been a mug’s game. Politicians discovered long ago that they could say anything they wanted no matter how obviously wrong it was and it would do them no harm. Any fact checking would be seen by a tiny fraction of the audience that saw the original claim, so lies were net positives no matter how upset fact checkers got about them.
Donald Trump has taken this to its logical conclusion, where he practically invents a whole different reality, but fact checking has little impact even on this. At this point, virtually everyone already believes that either (a) the media hates Trump and calls everything he says a lie, or (b) Trump lies all the time.
This is why I favor a sort of “Fact of the Day” approach to this. That is, short blurbs that simply display something in the news without reference to anything Trump has said. Like this:
Sure, Trump’s claim is false that he’s been great for manufacturing. But there’s no need to say that, which immediately loses half your audience. Just show the facts with minimal comment. Manufacturing’s share of the workforce has been declining since 1946 and it continues to decline to this day. Then let people draw their own conclusions.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/08/fact-of-the-day-manufacturing-a
s-a-of-the-workforce-1985-2020/
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=uWpx
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Quote:A crisp and short example of the difference between Democrats and Republicans: $600 a week
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
Republicans were not happy. The whole thing was too big. They were particularly displeased with a Democratic proposal to expand unemployment benefits by $600 a week, which meant some unemployed workers would collect more in benefits than they had earned while working.
Mr. Mnuchin wasn’t thrilled, either, but he gave in to Democrats to speed the bill through the House. He told Republicans that it wasn’t technically feasible to tailor the size of the unemployment benefit to a worker’s previous wages.
For a while, that looked like it might be a deal breaker for Republicans. The stock market seesawed along with the perceived odds of a deal. By Friday, March 20, the S&P 500 index was down 34 percent from its February peak — below where it was when Mr. Trump took office.
Mr. Mnuchin spent the weekend working the phones, with 49 phone calls on Sunday alone, including to influential Republican senators. “We need to get this deal done today,” he told Mr. Cramer on CNBC on Monday.
Republican senators slowly got on board, fearful of the fallout if they were seen as blocking a rescue package. The Senate passed the bill, markets soared, and Mr. Trump signed the $2.2 trillion CARES Act.
At a news conference, the president declared himself pleased with “our great secretary of the Treasury.” He added, “He’s a fantastic guy and he loves our country, and he’s been dealing with both sides — Republican and Democrat.”
But Republicans were furious with Mr. Mnuchin. The $600-per-week unemployment benefit was a particular sore spot.
Much more about the difference between Democrats and Republicans at www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/business/steven-mnuchin-trump-economy.html
or
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/steven-mnuchin-tried-to-save-the-econo
my-not-even-his-family-is-happy/ar-BB18w5FW
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Hey lookatthat! Trump stopped the hemorrhaging! I didn't realize he was that successful!
No wonder his approval rating is as sturdy as it is!
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. 
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Your lack of self awareness is astounding, Ted.
One of the largest perpetrators of gaslighting I've had the displeasure of knowing in my life, yet you still don't even know what that word means.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You better look again. Go to Federal Reserve and run your cursor along the graph at: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=uWpx
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Hey lookatthat! Trump stopped the hemorrhaging! I didn't realize he was that successful!
Trump's failure to bring factory jobs back to America still cost a fortune. The price of failure is the Cost of Tariffs
Like most taxes, tariffs on goods and services get passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices. The cost of these tariffs has amounted to a steady $300 per household per year, adjusted for inflation, since the Reagan era, but that changed two years ago when President Trump imposed an array of new tariffs on foreign goods. American households now pay an average of $700 each in tariffs, more than double what they’ve paid under previous administrations.
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/08/fact-of-the-day-the-cos
t-of-tariffs/
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Hmmm ...would you rather pay $400 over a year (a bit over a buck a day) and have a job making $25K a year ... or save the $400 and not work at all??
Yeah, it's a tough choice.
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democrats, democrats, democrats ... 
California to Set Up Task Force to Examine Slavery Reparations
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/08/30/california
-to-set-up-task-force-to-examine-slavery-reparations-n865355
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Quote:Mister Working Class, why are you so glum?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
"I am glum because I have a $300 Payday Loan - Bi-Weekly Consumer Disclosure from Speedycash. The interest rate is 730% !"
www.speedycash.com/rates-and-terms/Texas
Payday loan companies, operating off the internet, want to expand into states with Democrats controlling state banking. The Democrats resist, but the Republicans are changing the rules to bring 730% APR loans to Mister Working Class in every state:
In late May, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which regulates federally chartered banks, finalized a rule that would supercharge the online lending industry by bowling over the state interest rate limits that currently protect consumers. In June, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation finalized an equivalent rule that would cover the state-chartered financial institutions that currently dominate the online lending industry.
The attorneys general of California, New York, and Illinois have sued the OCC, contending that its rule violates federal banking law and other statutes, “and would facilitate predatory lending.” If those rules stand, borrowers in many states will face even higher interest rates than they do today, with state regulators powerless to stop them. A second lawsuit targets the FDIC rule.
The OCC is now taking comments on a separate proposed rule that declares a national bank the “true lender” in any partnership, further adding to fintechs’ ability to sidestep state banking regulations.
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/30/fintech-debt-personal-loans-econom
ic-crisis/
Are you working class and need a SpeedyCash.com loan at 730% interest rate?
Then give thanks to Donald Trump for making it possible!
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Quote:The correct formulation is ... would 1,000 of your friends be willing to pay $400 over a year so that you can have a job making $25K a year? Or would they rather not be your friend and keep the $400?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Hmmm ...would you rather pay $400 over a year (a bit over a buck a day) and have a job making $25K a year ... or save the $400 and not work at all??
Yeah, it's a tough choice.
Trump’s steel tariffs cost U.S. consumers $900,000 for every job created, experts say
www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/07/trumps-steel-tariffs-cost-u
s-consumers-every-job-created-experts-say/
Trump’s Washing Machine Tariffs Cost Consumers $800,000 Per Job Created
https://fee.org/articles/trump-s-washing-machine-tariffs-cost-consumer
s-800-000-per-job-created/
Based on a 12% increase in the price of washers -- or about $86 per machine -- each the 1,800 jobs created cost American consumers $815,000
https://web.archive.org/web/20200901114315/https://www.bloomberg.com/n
ews/articles/2020-08-06/trump-touts-whirlpool-job-gains-from-tariffs-that-hit-consumers
Trump’s steel and aluminium tariffs cost US consumers $900,000 a year for every job saved, experts say
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-tariffs-steel-
aluminium-jobs-consumers-cost-a8904366.html
Aluminum Tariff Tradeoff: 300 Jobs for $690 Million in New Taxes
https://reason.com/2018/12/11/study-claims-aluminum-tariffs-create-job/
How much does it cost in tariffs to create one job? Google says 101 million times that it costs much more than the job is worth. It would be 1,000 times cheaper to stay home and do nothing but collect unemployment:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+does+it+cost+in+tariffs+to+cr
eate+one+job
There are other ways to create jobs than raise tariffs:
"How to decarbonize America — and create 25 million jobs"
www.vox.com/podcasts/2020/8/27/21403184/saul-griffith-ezra-klein-show-
solve-climate-change-green-new-deal-rewiring-america
1kiki, the GOP will powerfully oppose, and eventually kill if the GOP has at least 34 Senators, this idea of creating 25,000,000 jobs because decarbonizing America would reduce production of oil and natural gas, the industry that contributes most to Trump's reelection campaign.
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You can't reason with people who refuse to reason.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
You can't reason with people who refuse to reason.
Correct
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Aptly named. 
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Quote:President Donald Trump has vowed to kill funding for a critical, gargantuan program that nearly 70 million Americans depend on.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
What? You haven’t heard Trump say he wants to kill Social Security’s funding? Actually, you have. Trump says he wants to kill the payroll tax — which is how Social Security is funded.
Perhaps like many Americans, you’re unaware of how Social Security is financed. It comes from payroll taxes that are paid by you and your employer. The past four years have convinced me that there are many other things that Trump’s supporters don’t seem to understand either (trade/tariffs, regulations, the stock market, etc.) but I digress.
“If victorious on November 3rd,” the president said on Aug. 8th, “I plan to forgive these taxes and make permanent cuts to the payroll tax.” He then added: “I’m going to make them all permanent.”
So when Trump talks of a “payroll tax cut,” you might think that sounds great. A tax cut! But this is deceptive election year politics, designed to take advantage of voter ignorance. Anyone in the media that’s going along with Trump’s framing of this as a mere tax cut is also being played.
It doesn’t get more delusional than this except, perhaps, for kooky Trump advisers like economist Stephen Moore, and even Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who has said that Social Security could always be paid for by moving trillions of dollars from the government’s “general fund to those trusts funds.”
Trillions of dollars from the general fund? What trillions of dollars? The federal deficit for fiscal year 2019 that ended last Sept. 30 was $984 billion. It has nearly quadrupled this year to a staggering $3.7 trillion, and this will skyrocket even further if another round of pandemic aid gets passed. These sums — so vast as to be nearly incomprehensible — get added on to the national debt, which as of last week was $26.6 trillion, up 33.6% on Trump’s watch.
Remember: Trump said he would eliminate the entire national debt — not the deficit, the national debt itself — in eight years, because of all the brilliant trade deals he would do. Here we are four years later and things are worse, far worse, than ever.
www.marketwatch.com/story/why-you-might-not-know-that-trump-is-threate
ning-your-social-security-2020-09-02
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
^ This is a brain disease.
Wow.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
Quote:And democrats are up in arms! They're making speeches, filibustering the Senate, airing commercials ...
President Donald Trump has vowed to kill funding for a critical, gargantuan program that nearly 70 million Americans depend on.
...
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... what's that you say? They're not doing any of that?
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better? RF is an idiot.
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Quote:Reality is a disease to inbred white trash like 6ix.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
^ This is a brain disease.
Wow.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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She's in MO-18. That is a trash portion of a trash county in the trashiest area of the state. Per capita income is 17 grand. 98.8 percent white. It's uneducated, poor, stupid, white, and "Christian."
She isn't even that popular and she pulled 70%.
Here’s her office number if you’d like to voice a complaint.
(573) 751-7985?
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Why don't you get a hobby?
You'll feel better about yourself and the world, and it will keep your mind off of all of your paranoia and hatred for America.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
Quote:And democrats are up in arms! They're making speeches, filibustering the Senate, airing commercials ...
President Donald Trump has vowed to kill funding for a critical, gargantuan program that nearly 70 million Americans depend on.
...
...
... what's that you say? They're not doing any of that?
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better? RF is an idiot.
1kiki, you are full of shit. Your fat, dumb Trump's plan to simultaneously ruin Social Security and Medicare is in deep trouble. Find out what kind of trouble by googling Are Democrats outraged by Trump FICA tax change?
www.google.com/search?q=Are+Democrats+outraged+by+Trump+FICA+tax+chang
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That topic is:
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
More specifically, what did the democrats do to change the economy to help the average American worker over the past 4 decades?
Quote:
President Donald Trump has vowed to kill funding for a critical, gargantuan program that nearly 70 million Americans depend on.
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And democrats are up in arms! They're making speeches, filibustering the Senate, airing commercials ...
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... what's that you say? They're not doing any of that?
Quote:
1kiki, you are full of shit. Your fat, dumb Trump's plan to simultaneously ruin Social Security and Medicare is in deep trouble. Find out what kind of trouble by googling Are Democrats outraged by Trump FICA tax change?
www.google.com/search?q=Are+Democrats+outraged+by+Trump+FICA+tax+chang
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www.google.com/search?q=Are+Democrats+outraged+by+Trump+FICA+tax+chang
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Aug 9, 2020 - But Democrats ... questioned their effectiveness. ... Angry citizens are driving public health officials like me from our jobs ... until January payment of a payroll tax that funds Social Security and Medicare. Trump added he would try to change federal rules next year to make ...
Trump's Push to Cut Payroll Taxes Opens a Democratic Line ...
www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
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Jul 21, 2020 - President Trump is renewing his push for a payroll-tax cut to be part of the next ... Employees and employers each pay Social Security payroll taxes of 6.2 ... and Democrats continue to be opposed to the payroll-tax cut idea. ... tax holiday through the end of the year wouldn't do much to increase hiring ... democrats nowhere to be found
What Trump's Payroll Tax Cut Will Mean for You - Yahoo Money
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5 days ago - President Trump issued an executive order to suspend the collection of Social Security payroll taxes. ... For 2020, the Social Security tax is only levied on the first $137,700 ... The government's action doesn't actually change the underlying ... of Minsk again last weekend, and the outrage remains palpable. democrats nowhere to be found
Letter: Trump's payroll tax break does more harm than good ...
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Aug 11, 2020 - Dems say Trump's payroll tax break weakens Social Security ... If a Democrat is elected, he would look bad “increasing taxes” merely by restoring what Trump cut. ... 4) Workers will have to increase their taxes to support retirees — or ... It is far too convenient for the powers that be to blame this outrage on ...
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Quote:What I see is Trump gave a ridiculous order that won't be obeyed because Congress did not pass a law to stop collecting the FICA taxes.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yep. I see dead people ... I mean, democrats.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
The House of Representatives can't stop Trump from being ridiculous. That's not the House's problem. It is the problem of the GOP Senate to slap Trump in the face and demand he stop being an idiot:
On Aug. 28, the IRS issued Notice 2020-65, allowing employers to suspend withholding and paying to the IRS eligible employees' Social Security payroll taxes, as part of COVID-19 relief.
The payroll tax "holiday," or suspension period, runs from Sept. 1 through Dec. 31, 2020, and applies only to employees whose wages are less than $4,000 for a biweekly pay period, including salaried workers earning less than $104,000 per year.
Companies that suspend collection of employees' payroll tax would collect additional amounts from workers' paychecks from Jan. 1 through April 30 next year to repay the tax obligation.
President Donald Trump sent a memorandum on Aug. 8 to the Treasury Department to defer collection of the employee portion of Social Security from Sept. 1 through the end of 2020.
Bare Bones Guidance
At just 2 1/2 double-spaced pages, Notice 2020-65 provides a minimum amount of information and leaves many questions to be answered, presumably in follow-up guidance.
As to whether employers will comply with the notice and suspend employees' Social Security FICA withholding, "It's too early to say," according to Pete Isberg, vice president of government relations at HR and payroll services firm ADP Inc. Employers "are just now considering how the program would work."
Isberg said that whether to suspend withholding of employees' payroll tax was in effect "voluntary." Although the language of the notice is directive, it includes no penalties for noncompliance.
It remains uncertain, however, how many private-sector employers will suspend collection of their employees' Social Security taxes, and, if they decide to do so, when they could reasonably adjust their payroll systems to stop withholding these taxes.
If employers suspend Social Security payroll tax withholding for eligible employees, the guidance does not provide for allowing individuals to opt out, which had been an administrative concern employers had raised.
More at www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/compensation/pages/irs-guidan
ce-workers-payroll-tax-holiday.aspx
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I'm just telling you what I think the voting public is going to see in Joe and the democrats - and overall it isn't good. This is the exact same way I was posting what was wrong with Hillary and the DNC way back before the 2016 election.
You can post and post and post and post arguments against me all day long to ... try and make yourself right ... or change my mind ... or whatever it is you're trying to do here.
But nothing you post here is going to change anything out there. So instead of trying to make this about me (which is pretty pointless), how about you try to understand the world out there, and why the odds and polls are the way they are. And nearly everywhere I look at the moment the betting odds are neck and neck.
Now, I am not going to make any predictions, just like I didn't last time (though I did personally assume Hillary was going to win).
But if everything you post is right and Donald is abysmal and has done everything wrong since before day 1 and is in congress with the devil; and Joe walks on water and will fix all our problems and smell good too; then you need some kind of explanation for what all those people out there might be thinking that accounts for why the odds are the way they are.
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Kiki's bottom line is vote for Trump. It was her bottom line in 2016 and it is her bottom line now. Her approach is to lie about the other candidate. To make shit up about how that person will run the country if elected. Her assertions are outlandish and never matches the governing style of the person she is demeaning. Her approach doesn't matter at all. Trumps fuck ups and incompetence is all that matters. Kiki's deflecting away from that by trashing the other candidate is typical. She is, a Trumpet...
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:On August 27, 2019, President Donald Trump held a 41.3 percent approval rating. One year later, Trump is at 42.2 percent approval.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I'm just telling you what I think the voting public is going to see in Joe and the democrats - and overall it isn't good. This is the exact same way I was posting what was wrong with Hillary and the DNC way back before the 2016 election.
You can post and post and post and post arguments against me all day long to ... try and make yourself right ... or change my mind ... or whatever it is you're trying to do here.
But nothing you post here is going to change anything out there. So instead of trying to make this about me (which is pretty pointless), how about you try to understand the world out there, and why the odds and polls are the way they are. And nearly everywhere I look at the moment the betting odds are neck and neck.
Now, I am not going to make any predictions, just like I didn't last time (though I did personally assume Hillary was going to win).
But if everything you post is right and Donald is abysmal and has done everything wrong since before day 1 and is in congress with the devil; and Joe walks on water and will fix all our problems and smell good too; then you need some kind of explanation for what all those people out there might be thinking that accounts for why the odds are the way they are.
If you had told me, a year ago, that a pandemic virus would overrun the country, that 200,000 Americans would die and case numbers would dwarf Europe, that the economy would go into deep freeze and the federal government prove utterly feckless, I would’ve thought that’s the kind of systemic shock that could crack into public opinion. I’m not saying I would’ve predicted Trump falling to 20 percent, but I would’ve predicted movement.
The stability unnerves me because it undermines the basic theory of responsive democracy. If our political divisions cut so deep that even 200,000 deaths and 10.2 percent unemployment and a president musing about bleach injections can’t shake us, then what can? And if the answer is nothing, then that means the crucial form of accountability in American politics has collapsed.
But still: Forty-two percent of Americans look at Trump and believe he’s doing a good job, or at least a good enough one. And nothing they’ve seen over the past year has shaken that view.
More about explaining the eerie stability of Trump’s approval rating at
www.vox.com/2020/9/2/21409364/trump-approval-rating-2020-election-vote
rs-coronavirus-convention-polls
Let’s step away from politics for a second. I’ve told Texans that if they can afford to pay Annual Percentage Rate of 1012.00% they can afford to save before they need $100, but they don’t save. Instead, they go to Lone Star Cash. www.lscash.com
I’ve told Texans to not bypass interlocks or they will get electrocuted, but they go right on bypassing and, eventually, get killed.
1kiki, do you really and truly think: "you need some kind of explanation for what all those people out there might be thinking that accounts for why the odds are the way they are." The explanation is simple: the same brain making political decisions is the brain screwing up the rest of their lives. Why would their politics on election day make more sense than the routine decisions they make the rest of year?
There is podcast "What the Iraq disaster can teach us about Trump" explaining why the GOP does not govern competently. https://www.vox.com/2020/9/2/21417224/why-did-america-invade-iraq-the-
ezra-klein-show-to-start-a-war-bush-trump-administration
The guy being interviewed, Robert Draper, has a book out called "To Start a War: How the Bush Administration Took America into Iraq". Get it for free at mirrors https://libgen.unblockit.top/search.php?req=Robert+Draper
Or you can listen to the podcast and get plenty of insight on psychological reasons why the GOP makes bad decisions when it is in control. Ordinary voter
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CORRECTION:
August 27, 2019, Trump had 43.2% approval on the aggregate.
August 27, 2020, Trump had 44.0% approval on the aggregate.
And I love to break it to you once again, these numbers are in no way reflective of reality. Something that I just can't prove until Trump annihilates Biden on election day.
The Legacy Media is much more to blame for any of this than Trump ever possibly could. Trump is the symptom. Marxist brainwashing in colleges over the last several decades is the disease.
Every major problem we have in this country today is brought about by socialists in our country or China.
Trump wins EASY in November.
Vox is a pox.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump's popularity is charted against the previous 12 Presidents at the bottom of this page:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
CORRECTION:
August 27, 2019, Trump had 43.2% approval on the aggregate.
August 27, 2020, Trump had 44.0% approval on the aggregate.
And I love to break it to you once again, these numbers are in no way reflective of reality. Something that I just can't prove until Trump annihilates Biden on election day.
The Legacy Media is much more to blame for any of this than Trump ever possibly could. Trump is the symptom. Marxist brainwashing in colleges over the last several decades is the disease.
Every major problem we have in this country today is brought about by socialists in our country or China.
Trump wins EASY in November.
Vox is a pox.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
Those previous Presidents' popularity changes very strongly as things go wrong in the nation, but not so with Trump because about 42% of Americans don't know wrong from right. You can easily see that blindness to wrongness in their daily lives, if you pay attention to their antics, but they can't see themselves. The Bible described this blindness: https://biblehub.com/luke/6-42.htm
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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One thing I’ve learned about Trump and about the country is that Trump has always exploited honor systems. He’s always looked for places where people obey the law not because they have to but because it’s seen as the right thing to do. They don’t want to go against social convention, and so they follow the rules—but when you break the law, it’s not like a cop steps out from behind a pillar and arrests you. He takes advantage of that. When he finds a place where there’s an honor system, he exploits it. He does what the honor system doesn’t expect. And he often gets a huge advantage out of that. He did that in his business often. He did it at his charity—he didn’t follow charity rules, and he took advantage of the fact that the charity system takes a long time to catch up with you if you do that.
And what we’ve found is that the presidency is an honor system. On purpose, we did not write a lot of laws that govern the presidency because that’s supposed to be held by a person of honor who will follow honor systems about not mixing government and private business, not mixing government and politics. And Trump has again taken advantage of that. There’s so many cases in which he said, I know it says I can’t do this or other people haven’t done this, but I’m going to do it. Try and stop me. I’ll see you in two years. What we’ve seen in all these court cases is that that worked. And also that Trump’s opponents, the Democrats in Congress and people in law enforcement, didn’t understand whom they were dealing with. Often they sort of seemed to expect that Trump would follow the honor systems, even when his whole life had shown that he would not.
Trump’s approach only works for a while, and sometimes that’s enough. I mean, think about how well it worked for him in 2016: It got him elected president. But eventually it comes down on him. That happened with the Trump Foundation. It happened with Trump University. Eventually the system stirs to life and comes after him. So he and the whole Trump organization could be in that position next year if Trump loses. He will finally have the honor system catch up to him, the kids and Trump. If he’s reelected, though, he may get a protection from it that will last long enough to effectively be permanent.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/trump-organization-legal-t
roubles-investigations.html
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Aussies know what's up.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump's popularity is charted against the previous 12 Presidents at the bottom of this page:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
CORRECTION:
August 27, 2019, Trump had 43.2% approval on the aggregate.
August 27, 2020, Trump had 44.0% approval on the aggregate.
And I love to break it to you once again, these numbers are in no way reflective of reality. Something that I just can't prove until Trump annihilates Biden on election day.
The Legacy Media is much more to blame for any of this than Trump ever possibly could. Trump is the symptom. Marxist brainwashing in colleges over the last several decades is the disease.
Every major problem we have in this country today is brought about by socialists in our country or China.
Trump wins EASY in November.
Vox is a pox.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
Those previous Presidents' popularity changes very strongly as things go wrong in the nation, but not so with Trump because about 42% of Americans don't know wrong from right. You can easily see that blindness to wrongness in their daily lives, if you pay attention to their antics, but they can't see themselves. The Bible described this blindness: https://biblehub.com/luke/6-42.htm
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Fuck you.
And don't talk to me about "moral superiority" when you make a post like this, worm.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Everyone here is your superior, in every way, not just morally.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck you.
And don't talk to me about "moral superiority" when you make a post like this, worm.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I get it - Trump supporters are stupid, lazy, and morally corrupt.
1kiki, do you really and truly think: "you need some kind of explanation for what all those people out there might be thinking that accounts for why the odds are the way they are." The explanation is simple: the same brain making political decisions is the brain screwing up the rest of their lives. Why would their politics on election day make more sense than the routine decisions they make the rest of year?
Ordinary voters also make bad decisions in everyday life (think back to bypass interlocks or Lone Star Cash) for much the same reasons as why their politicians go horribly wrong when faced with monumentally important decisions.
You must also think (by extension) that everyone who was damaged by the Great Depression was culpable for their own misfortune.
In your mind, it's not that the system failed all those people, either then in 1929 or in 2008-2017, it's that they were weak, and stupid, and they simply failed the system.
So nobody deserves to feel angry. Nobody deserves to look to their democratic government to function in their interests. Right?
You like to tell us what an excellent failure analyst you are. And yet, you can't look at an economic system that has repeatedly turned people into bits of charred ash from time to time as a regular part of its history, and find fault.
So either you're ignoring those oopses, or you think they're an indication of excellent design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:You really are not going to like this paper because it uses the words "Incompetent Citizen" to describe what is happening:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:I get it - Trump supporters are stupid, lazy, and morally corrupt.
1kiki, do you really and truly think: "you need some kind of explanation for what all those people out there might be thinking that accounts for why the odds are the way they are." The explanation is simple: the same brain making political decisions is the brain screwing up the rest of their lives. Why would their politics on election day make more sense than the routine decisions they make the rest of year?
Ordinary voters also make bad decisions in everyday life (think back to bypass interlocks or Lone Star Cash) for much the same reasons as why their politicians go horribly wrong when faced with monumentally important decisions.
You must also think (by extension) that everyone who was damaged by the Great Depression was culpable for their own misfortune.
In your mind, it's not that the system failed all those people, either then in 1929 or in 2008-2017, it's that they were weak, and stupid, and they simply failed the system.
So nobody deserves to feel angry. Nobody deserves to look to their democratic government to function in their interests. Right?
You like to tell us what an excellent failure analyst you are. And yet, you can't look at an economic system that has repeatedly turned people into bits of charred ash from time to time as a regular part of its history, and find fault.
So either you're ignoring those oopses, or you think they're an indication of excellent design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
Democracy Devouring Itself: The Rise of the Incompetent Citizen and the Appeal of Right Wing Populism
https://escholarship.org/content/qt8806z01m/qt8806z01m_noSplash_eef039
c0e7aa9b1263a0d0b757d3d886.pdf
The liberal democracy Americans know, with its abstract principles, complex institutional arrangements and conflicted, deliberative practices, is difficult for most people to understand and embrace. Since people typically think in terms of simple hierarchies, when it comes to governing, they believe that, like the military, someone must be in charge to make decisions. Constraints on executive power are regarded as unwarranted obstructions.
Most people also think in terms of simple categories. So when it comes to citizenship, they understand that being American means being like other Americans. As such, citizenship requires loyally conforming to shared beliefs, common codes of behavior, and even often having similar appearance. In this context, respect for differences among in-group members or of out-group members (such as minorities, immigrants or foreigners) makes little sense. To the contrary, these differences are potential threats to the integrity of nation and should be suppressed accordingly.
Yet despite the limitations of its citizens, the U.S. has remained a liberal democracy with broad popular support. In my view, this is because the U.S., like many Western countries, has been democratic in only a limited sense. Economic, political and cultural power has remained in the hands of a relatively small elite. This power is divided among progressive and conservative elites, who are united in their appreciation of democratic governance, the protections it affords — and of course the benefits they themselves enjoy.
Consequently, America’s elites have deployed their power over political nominations to sideline figures who to threaten democratic processes. They have similarly used their influence over the mass media and educational institutions to guide the national political discussion and exclude anti-democratic messages. In these ways, they have been able to shepherd a public that might otherwise naturally be receptive to undemocratic alternatives.
The problem now is that the power of this oligarchic elite is waning. Competitive capitalis
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Second, what kiki, sig, jsf, rappy and a few others are is what’s called anti, anti-Trump. This means they are against anyone who is against Trump. What they mostly do is attack everything and everyone as a way to deflect away from Trump. They do this because there is too much evidence Trump did all he’s accused of. Admitting to it would, well, they can’t admit to it.
They will create a thread criticizing Pelosi about a haircut and ignore Trumps and his advisers many felonies. One thing is for sure. They own, along with Trump, all he has done. This undeniably fact lays bare who and what they are.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Second, what kiki, sig, jsf, rappy and a few others are is what’s called anti, anti-Trump. This means they are against anyone who is against Trump. What they mostly do is attack everything and everyone as a way to deflect away from Trump. They do this because there is too much evidence Trump did all he’s accused of. Admitting to it would, well, they can’t admit to it.
They will create a thread criticizing Pelosi about a haircut and ignore Trumps and his advisers many felonies. One thing is for sure. They own, along with Trump, all he has done. This undeniably fact lays bare who and what they are.
Nailed it T. I would say, "sad but true," but it's more disgusting, ignorant, despicable, weak, loathsome and true. Trump has cast some kind of spell on these people, and all of the fawning yes people that surround him. We're talking Jim Jones x 100,000,000, and as much kool aid and they can choke down.
I can't believe so many people have such anti-America agendas, or are just so spineless or so ignorant as to not see his simple deceptions. Guess that's why it works! And they're buying into... what? Where do they suppose he's taking this country? Kill or expel all the non-whites? Careful, after that will be forced labor camps and re-education training for all the poor, dumb whites left. Hate to break it to you, but that's already started. Top tip: that's not what they're going to be called.
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Apparently nuance is lost on you 3. You might as well be Bush the Junior, saying "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.".
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Appeals court denies Green Party candidates ballot access
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Appeals-court-denies-Green-Party-c
andidates-15551022.php
Rules in Montana the Supreme Court and a dispute about Democracy
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Apparently nuance is lost on you 3. You might as well be Bush the Junior, saying "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.".
Trump? Nuance?
BTW, KIKS - Trump having people "defend him" by saying they've never heard him call vets or service men and women Losers and/or Suckers, only means they haven't heard him say it, not that he hasn't. Or they're lying.
Plus, if you're just a part time observer of human behavior, and you've been paying only a little attention over the last 5 years, you would also believe he's said and believed much worse. How many president's have openly mocked handicapped people? In public in front of a large crowd? Just for laughs? On and on....
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I pay no attention to anything Trump says or tweets - or anything that Biden says or tweets either. And I've criticized neither of them for their words. Words are just so much hot air coming out of any politician.
But you should be wondering why Trump is doing so well in the polls while Biden is slipping so badly. After all, Biden is saying all the right things, and Trump is saying all the wrong things.
Maybe other people are looking at their relative histories of actions as politicos besides just me. How much did they scam the system? Over how many years? How long did they sell working Americans off to the lowest international bidder? How cozy were they with illegal immigrants? How many wars did they start? Trivial stuff like that.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Apparently nuance is lost on you 3. You might as well be Bush the Junior, saying "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.".
Trump? Nuance?
BTW, KIKS - Trump having people "defend him" by saying they've never heard him call vets or service men and women Losers and/or Suckers, only means they haven't heard him say it, not that he hasn't. Or they're lying.
Plus, if you're just a part time observer of human behavior, and you've been paying only a little attention over the last 5 years, you would also believe he's said and believed much worse. How many president's have openly mocked handicapped people? In public in front of a large crowd? Just for laughs? On and on....
Agreed G. A plethora of circumstantial evidence shows this matches Trumps MO. That, and the fact that the author of the article that exposes Trumps statements has a solid reputation. Then, the very evening the story broke, Trump does what? He verbally attacks the military. He calls its generals war mongers and so on. He claims the troops love him, but the top brass don't. He insinuates they are out to get him.
We must not ignore G, that those like kiki and sig who push for Trump in many covert ways, are either Russian trolls as we’ve said again and again, or they are really really stupid.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:1kiki, show us nuance:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Apparently nuance is lost on you 3. You might as well be Bush the Junior, saying "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.".
Epilogue to Rage by Bob Woodward, 2020
After I finished reporting for this book on President Trump, I felt weariness. The country was in real turmoil. The virus was out of control. The economy was in crisis with more than 40 million out of work. A powerful reckoning on racism and inequality was upon us. There seemed to be no end in sight, and certainly no clear path to get there.
I thought back to the conversation with Trump on February 7 when he mentioned the “dynamite behind every door,” the unexpected explosion that could change everything. He was apparently thinking about some external event that would affect the Trump presidency.
But now, I’ve come to the conclusion that the “dynamite behind the door” was in plain sight. It was Trump himself. The oversized personality. The failure to organize. The lack of discipline. The lack of trust in others he had picked, in experts. The undermining or the attempted undermining of so many American institutions. The failure to be a calming, healing voice. The unwillingness to acknowledge error. The failure to do his homework. To extend the olive branch. To listen carefully to others. To craft a plan.
Mattis, Tillerson and Coats are all conservatives or apolitical people who wanted to help him and the country. Imperfect men who answered the call to public service. They were not the deep state. Yet each departed with cruel words from their leader. They concluded that Trump was an unstable threat to their country. Think about that for a moment: The top national security leaders thought the president of the United States was a danger to the country.
Trump said the intelligence people needed to go back to school. The generals were stupid. The media was fake news.
Trump had spent so many years undermining people who challenged him. Not only his opponents but those who worked for him and for the American public.
And here was the problem: By undermining so many others not only had he shaken confidence in them but he had shaken confidence in himself. This was particularly apparent when the country most needed to feel the government knew what it was doing in an unprecedented health crisis.
– There is more from the Epilogue to Rage by Bob Woodward, 2020
Get the book from the mirror at https://libgen.unblockit.top/search.php?req=Woodward+Rage
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Your TDS doesn't make Biden a saint. Not understanding that is you lack if nuance.
Epilogue to Rage by Bob Woodward, 2020
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No one here that I can recall comrade kiki has tried to pass Biden off as a saint. Unless compared to Trump. Then a case for his being a saint could be made.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Not understanding that is you lack if nuance.
What???
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:Woodward wrote: "For nearly 50 years, I have written about nine presidents from Nixon to Trump — 20 percent of the 45 U.S. presidents. A president must be willing to share the worst with the people, the bad news with the good. All presidents have a large obligation to inform, warn, protect, to define goals and the true national interest. It should be a truth-telling response to the world, especially in crisis. Trump has, instead, enshrined personal impulse as a governing principle of his presidency.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Your TDS doesn't make Biden a saint. Not understanding that is you lack if nuance.
Epilogue to Rage by Bob Woodward, 2020
When his performance as president is taken in its entirety, I can only reach one conclusion: Trump is the wrong man for the job."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Woodward = Partisan hack.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix = Joker. Your clinical history says "extremely bizarre behavior" and "delusions of grandeur".
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Woodward = Partisan hack.
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Quote:If Woodward can't see that all Presidents lie, repeatedly and with malice aforethought, then he's a stupid cow who shouldn't be pontificating. And if he's pontificating, he shouldn't be paid attention.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Woodward wrote: "For nearly 50 years, I have written about nine presidents from Nixon to Trump — 20 percent of the 45 U.S. presidents. A president must be willing to share the worst with the people, the bad news with the good. All presidents have a large obligation to inform, warn, protect, to define goals and the true national interest. It should be a truth-telling response to the world, especially in crisis. Trump has, instead, enshrined personal impulse as a governing principle of his presidency.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Your TDS doesn't make Biden a saint. Not understanding that is you lack if nuance.
Epilogue to Rage by Bob Woodward, 2020
When his performance as president is taken in its entirety, I can only reach one conclusion: Trump is the wrong man for the job."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
This is just Woodward, and SECONDRATE, blaming Trump for the corruption and mismanagement of the past 60 years.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix = Joker. Your clinical history says "extremely bizarre behavior" and "delusions of grandeur".
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Woodward = Partisan hack.
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Yup. Delusions of grandeur PERFECTLY describes me.
Dude with very little ambitions other than never owing anyone anything and never having to answer to a boss with half his IQ.
No...
I'm just better, smarter, stronger and faster than you in ever conceivable way. And that's not even saying much. Because you're retarded.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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image Benghazi v Covid
Perfectly said. Trump says "It's bad Bob," privately, then publicly he says "we've turned the corner" "Open up!" He murders Americans every day.
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Quote:Remember the Vietnam War? There was plenty of outrage about that while it was happening, but not enough. There should have been a thousand times more riots, and hundreds of attempts to assassinate Nixon, Kissinger, and Melvin Laird for what they did. Instead, all Nixon had to do is resign and things completely smoothed out for Nixon. His retirement years were very peaceful and undisturbed. Nobody tried to put him in jail. Nobody tried to kill him for what he did in South East Asia. That was a huge mistake that Woodward, famous for reporting about only Nixon/Watergate, is well aware of. Trump is aware, too:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If Woodward can't see that all Presidents lie, repeatedly and with malice aforethought, then he's a stupid cow who shouldn't be pontificating. And if he's pontificating, he shouldn't be paid attention.
This is just Woodward, and SECONDRATE, blaming Trump for the corruption and mismanagement of the past 60 years.
Trump Officials have to go to jail for what has happened.
If Democrats do hold their House majority and retake the Senate and the White House, it’s easy to foresee a scenario where, coupled with pressure from Republicans and centrists, Democrats decide that the public is sick of even thinking about Trump and bygones are allowed to be bygones.
But that would be a huge mistake. If Trump and his enablers are allowed to get away with the misdeeds of the last four years unscathed, it may mean the end of the American experiment.
The American system of government has proven to be far more fragile and norms-dependent than most public policy professionals had thought possible. It may only take one more president of limited moral constraints to topple it entirely. And given that impeachment and removal have proven for many different Presidents to be an empty threat, the only deterrent to a future Trumplike president and their enablers will be the fear of being held legally and financially accountable for wrongdoing after leaving office.
Democrats will almost certainly try to codify into law some of the violated norms – for instance, requiring that presidential candidates release tax returns and placing increased walls between the President and the Attorney General, but if a Chief Executive wants to abuse power, and has enough allied Senators to stave off removal after an impeachment, then the opportunities for mischief are endless.
More at https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/09/12/trump-officials-must-face-acc
ountability-in-order-to-save-democracy/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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There is a minor American myth about shame and regret. It goes like this.
In the years following Richard Nixon’s 1974 resignation amid scandal and disgrace, polls found that fewer Americans admitted to having voted for him than actually did. Apparently many former Nixon voters now realized the error of their ways and were embarrassed to admit ever having pulled the lever for him.
Everything about this story is false, and the truth of it is worse. Nixon’s loyal supporters stood by him the entire way, despite his crimes. His popularity did not retreat behind a wave of shame; it was merely muted by the national embarrassment of his resignation.
What does this tell us about today’s Trump supporters? Partisan divisions are much worse now than they were during the mid-1970s, so Trump voters’ fierce loyalty to this sexist, racist charlatan is unsurprising. But in explaining why, we tend to focus on the Cult of Trump, as if he has special qualities that give him some magical hold over his supporters. True, in many ways Trump is a unique politician in American history. Yet given our history, it seems likelier that his supporters’ undying devotion is less about the spells Trump casts, and more about the constancy of American political partisanship.
Indeed, the difference between Trump’s and Nixon’s loyal supporters might be more about decibel count than sentiment. And so by looking back at the steadfast support Richard Nixon maintained right through his resignation, we can better understand the misguided loyalty keeping Trump’s reelection campaign afloat.
A month after Nixon had resigned, what percentage of Americans held the extremist view that nothing Nixon did had warranted legal censure of any kind? It was 38%. A number shockingly similar to Trump’s current approval rating. ( https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ and www.vox.com/2020/9/2/21409364/trump-approval-rating-2020-election-vote
rs-coronavirus-convention-polls)
The failure to try or officially punish Richard Nixon for his crimes, lies, intransigence, and multi-faceted attack on U.S. constitutional systems and norms, set a precedent for presidential criminality, including Trump’s various crimes and corrosive attacks on the U.S. republic.
That such criminality has since been far more common in Republican presidential administrations than in Democratic presidencies is perhaps a coincidence. Or not.
More at https://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2020/09/the-bitter-end-and-t
he-forever-now.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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At least 24 million students could drop out of school due to the coronavirus pandemic, UN says
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/at-least-24-million-students-coul
d-drop-out-of-school-due-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic-un-says/ar-BB194mp6?ocid=msedgntp
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Donald Trump-appointed HHS spokesman says 'buy ammunition' as he claims Democrats are planning armed insurrection after election - and accuses CDC of 'sedition' against president in Facebook live rant
Michael Caputo was installed as top communications official at HHS
He warned on Facebook that 'they're going to have to kill me, and unfortunately, I think that's where this is going'
'And when Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin,' he said. 'The drills that you've seen are nothing.' Said Caputo: 'If you carry guns, buy ammunition, ladies and gentlemen, because it's going to be hard to get.'
The crazy ranting followed a report Friday in Politico that Caputo pushed the Centers for Disease Control to modify weekly reports on the coronavirus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8732315/Donald-Trump-appointe
d-HHS-spokesman-claims-Democrats-planning-armed-insurrection-election.html
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Biden receives endorsement from Scientific American, magazine's first in 175-year history
The magazine’s editors said they were motivated to endorse Biden after seeing how science has been ignored and politicized by President Donald Trump and his administration.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-receives-endorsem
ent-scientific-american-magazine-s-first-175-year-n1240134
Damn librul sinetists!!!
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Quote:What a a fucked-up nut job! The guy worships Reagan and Trump and wears a skull ring like some sort of SS officer.
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump-appointed HHS spokesman says 'buy ammunition' as he claims Democrats are planning armed insurrection after election - and accuses CDC of 'sedition' against president in Facebook live rant
Michael Caputo was installed as top communications official at HHS
He warned on Facebook that 'they're going to have to kill me, and unfortunately, I think that's where this is going'
'And when Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin,' he said. 'The drills that you've seen are nothing.' Said Caputo: 'If you carry guns, buy ammunition, ladies and gentlemen, because it's going to be hard to get.'
The crazy ranting followed a report Friday in Politico that Caputo pushed the Centers for Disease Control to modify weekly reports on the coronavirus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8732315/Donald-Trump-appointe
d-HHS-spokesman-claims-Democrats-planning-armed-insurrection-election.html
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This is the intellectual level of the anti-intellectual fascists.
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Quote:So am I, Roberts. So am I.
The Democrat Ticket Is Puzzling
I am puzzled, as I assume my readers are, why the powers-that-be chose the two least electable candidates for the Democrat nominations for president and vice president.
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... Really, once you see Biden in action, it is difficult to believe that even white liberals can vote for the Democrat ticket:
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Imagine the ridicule that would be heaped upon Biden by the presstitute media if he were the Republican candidate.
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Quote:Have you seen Trump in action? "If you look at Germany, one fifth our death rate. If you look at South Korea, 80 times fewer deaths than we've had. These are lives that have been lost and jobs that have been lost because we haven't had an organized, consistent, coherent federal response." The federal response is Trump's response.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
... Really, once you see Biden in action, it is difficult to believe that even white liberals can vote for the Democrat ticket
Dr. Tom Frieden: US nearing 200,000 Covid-19 deaths is a "reflection of a failing national response"
https://covid19data.com/2020/09/16/dr-frieden-us-nearing-200000-covid-
19-deaths-is-a-reflection-of-a-failing-national-response/
Trump in action:
... a President who has no medical expertise and has incessantly downplayed the emergency, bulldozed into the White House Briefing Room to kneecap one of the nation's top health officials, Dr. Robert Redfield. The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had told lawmakers it could be fall 2021 before there are sufficient vaccine stocks to allow normal life to resume. He also said masks work.
"I think he got the message maybe confused," the President said of the vaccine comments and added that Redfield "didn't understand the question" on masks -- even though the doctor's answers had been clearly considered and carefully worded.
The President's undercutting of Redfield came in a week in which he has repeatedly rejected the best advice of health authorities, including by holding an indoor campaign rally. He's also challenged the science of global warming as historic fires rage in Western states.
www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-pandemic-poli
tics-election-2020/index.html
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Trump in action is fucking awesome.
Feel free to leave my country on November 4th. You won't be missed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by THG:
At least 24 million students could drop out of school due to the coronavirus pandemic, UN says
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/at-least-24-million-students-coul
d-drop-out-of-school-due-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic-un-says/ar-BB194mp6?ocid=msedgntp
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Good. We can stop wasting taxpayer dollars funding the indoctrination camps then.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump's man declares he will kill to stay in the White House, despite losing: "And when Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin," he said. "The drills that you've seen are nothing." He also added, "If you carry guns, buy ammunition, ladies and gentlemen, because it's going to be hard to get."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump in action is fucking awesome.
Feel free to leave my country on November 4th. You won't be missed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/michael-caputo-coronavirus-sed
ition-election/index.html
That was a loud call to murder Democrats in order to stay in the White House. Trump's man will take a two-month 'leave of absence', but he will be back before the inauguration.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/16/politics/michael-caputo-hhs-cdc/index.h
tml
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Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
Not even going to give CNN the ad clicks to find out about whatever story you're making up right now.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:There are other sources: The top spokesman at Health and Human Services accused scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of “sedition” for their response to the coronavirus pandemic and warned people to buy guns and ammo because an insurrection led by Democrats could start on Inauguration Day if President Trump refuses to “stand down,” according to a report Monday.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
Not even going to give CNN the ad clicks to find out about whatever story you're making up right now.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/hhs-spokesman-accuses-cdc-staffers-of-co
ronavirus-sedition-report/
6ix, I know Texas Republicans who say they will kill to keep Trump in the White House, even if he loses. It's so funny because these are the same guys who I have to field dress their deer because they are squeamish about blood and guts and sharp knives. They also miss more than half their shots and scare away the deer or wound it, which is even worse. Then I have to track their beast through the thicket because these guys are terrible at that part of hunting, too. A bunch of wannabe assassins who don't have the skills.
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Quote:Are you still feeding these Trolls?4001
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
Not even going to give CNN the ad clicks to find out about whatever story you're making up right now.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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