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Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:35 AM

Until you call rioters rioters, nobody wants to hear shit from you and nobody is going to read any of your bullshit.

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 8:03 AM

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Until you call rioters rioters, nobody wants to hear shit from you and nobody is going to read any of your bullshit.

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Former Defense Secretary James Mattis has kept his thoughts on President Donald Trump largely to himself since he resigned in December 2018. Until Wednesday, that is, when he unloaded on the president in a scathing public statement.

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us.”
— James Mattis

The retired Marine general said he’s “angry and appalled” by what he’s seen this week, as Trump has threatened a military crackdown on protests across the nation.

“The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values — our values as people and our values as a nation,” Mattis said. “Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict — a false conflict — between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part.

“When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens — much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”

Mattis said that rather than being a uniter, Trump is actively trying to divide the country.

“We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort,” he said. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.

“We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s ‘better angels,’ and listen to them, as we work to unite.”

www.marketwatch.com/story/mattis-harshly-condemns-trumps-actions-he-tr
ies-to-divide-us-2020-06-03


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 4:11 PM

Former President Jimmy Carter weighed in on the death of George Floyd:

Rosalynn and I are pained by the tragic racial injustices and consequent backlash across our nation in recent weeks. Our hearts are with the victims' families and all who feel hopeless in the face of pervasive racial discrimination and outright cruelty. We all must shine a spotlight on the immorality of racial discrimination. But violence, whether spontaneous or consciously incited, is not a solution.

As a white male of the South, I know all too well the impact of segregation and injustice to African Americans. As a politician, I felt a responsibility to bring equity to my state and our country. In my 1971 inaugural address as Georgia's governor, I said: "The time for racial discrimination is over." With great sorrow and disappointment, I repeat those words today, nearly five decades later. Dehumanizing people debases us all; humanity is beautifully and almost infinitely diverse. The bonds of our common humanity must overcome the divisiveness of our fears and prejudices.

Since leaving the White House in 1981, Rosalynn and I have strived to advance human rights in countries around the world. In this quest, we have seen that silence can be as deadly as violence. People of power, privilege, and moral conscience must stand up and say "no more" to a racially discriminatory police and justice system, immoral economic disparities between whites and blacks, and government actions that undermine our unified democracy. We are responsible for creating a world of peace and equality for ourselves and future generations.

We need a government as good as its people, and we are better than this.

www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/jimmy-carter-george-floyd-statement/in
dex.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 4:55 PM

Here are just a few of the long-overdue measures to effectively addressing this crisis:

• Police officers are often described as law enforcement professionals. But professions have standards that govern member conduct, and membership can be revoked for standards violations. Currently, officers fired for misconduct and brutality against innocent civilians can be hired by other departments. We need to establish a national database of officers terminated for misconduct and a decertification system that makes them ineligible to work elsewhere as a police officer.

• Every police killing of an unarmed suspect should be immediately transferred to an independent investigator for review and a special prosecutor for charging. Jurisdictions like New York and Minnesota have policies that allow for special prosecutors in some cases.

• If Floyd had been killed in New York City, we would not have learned about the 18 previous misconduct complaints made against Chauvin, because New York has a highly restrictive law shielding police officers’ misconduct records. Gov. Andrew Cuomo has said that he would sign a bill to repeal the law, commonly referred to as 50a, which the state assembly will likely pass this week. Similar laws in other states should also be repealed.

• Police union contracts often contain several provisions that shield officers from accountability for misconduct, such as those protecting officers from questioning for days after an incident, including a killing, and those limiting misconduct-related discipline. Many union contracts also protect officers who witness misconduct by fellow officers from any obligation to report or intervene, perpetuating the “blue wall of silence.” City leaders must expend the political capital necessary to renegotiate provisions that contribute to officer impunity for misconduct.

• Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 forbids federal funding of state and local programs that engage in racial discrimination. Yet, despite providing over $2 billion in grant funding to police jurisdictions around the country, the Department of Justice has never fully enforced this provision. Minneapolis has received nearly $7 million in DOJ grants since 2009. There must be an immediate review of all DOJ grant funding to police departments to ensure compliance with Title VI. Federal funds should be withheld from departments that hire officers previously fired for misconduct or those with suspicious levels of in-custody deaths or assaults. The House and Senate Judiciary Committees have oversight power over the DOJ—and must hold it accountable.

• Qualified immunity, a defense that shields officials from the unforeseeable consequences of their reasonable acts, has been interpreted by courts so expansively that it now provides near- impunity for police officers who engage in unconstitutional acts of violence. Civil rights legal groups, libertarian groups, and even some conservative judges oppose qualified immunity in its current form. The U.S. Supreme Court has several cert petitions pending before it right now requesting review of this judge-made doctrine—one that must be urgently fixed by the courts. But, Congress can also act to limit this defense.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/police-reform-america-geor
ge-floyd.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 4:59 PM

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 5:14 PM

Confederate monuments collapse: Statues in Virginia, Alabama and Tennessee are torn down and vandalized with graffiti amid George Floyd protests

• In Alexandria, Virginia the 131-year-old bronze statue of Confederate soldier 'Appomattox' was taken down on Tuesday for fear it would get damaged in riots

• In Birmingham, Alabama the 115-year-old Confederate Soldiers and Sailors monument was removed from its pedestal on Monday night

• In Birmingham, Alabama a crowd of protesters tore down a statue of Confederate Navy captain Charles Linn last week

• In Montgomery, Alabama a statue of General Robert E Lee, the Commander of the Confederate Army in the Civil War, was toppled on Monday

• Confederate monuments in Virginia and South Carolina have also been defaced with graffiti and spray paint

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8382553/Confederate-monuments-collaps
e-Statues-South-torn-amid-George-Floyd-protests.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Until you call rioters rioters, nobody wants to hear shit from you and nobody is going to read any of your bullshit.

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Send in the Troops -- What could go wrong? Read what governments were saying before these infamous massacres of their people:

Boston Massacre
Peterloo Massacre
Tlatelolco Massacre
Bloody Sunday
Kent State Massacre
Tiananmen Square Massacre

at https://slate.com/culture/2020/06/send-in-the-troops-cotton-bennet-new
-york-times-boston-peterloo-tiananmen.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 6:59 PM

You should probably tell your goons to stand down then.


Seriously... Where's your reaverfan sockpuppet? He should be all over this. You forgot your reaverfan sockpuppet password, didn't you?

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You should probably tell your goons to stand down then.


Seriously... Where's your reaverfan sockpuppet? He should be all over this. You forgot your reaverfan sockpuppet password, didn't you?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Seriously, they are not my goons. If Trump murders them all, on TV, that will increase his charm with a certain kind of deranged voter. Trump will be giving his kind of people what they want. Maybe Trump will win reelection by a landslide bigger than any in history because he showed them the meanest, cruelest American President the world has ever seen!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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