Long hot summer ... of riots
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And some mealy-mouthed equivocation about police tactics used to clear an area for a Trump photo opQuote:Nothing 'of the sort' happened because police didn't use flash-bangs and tear gas they used
Despite almost blanket coverage amid the liberal mainstream media claiming that Trump's so-called "photo-op" was led by police clearing streets with tear gas and flash-bangs - and universally decried by every talking head on TV and social media - the 'real news' is that NOTHING OF THE SORT happened at all and the media made it ALL up... AGAIN!!!Quote:See! Not even close!
smoke canisters and pepper balls
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/media-lied-police-confirm-no-tear-
gas-flash-bangs-used-ahead-trumps-church-visit
You're talking to assholes that think an AR-15 is an "assault weapon".
Good luck.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure your media is showing the worst of it.
If you live outside of a dozen or two of the largest and worst Democrat ran shitholes here, you're fine.
I'm literally a few miles away from one of the most crime ridden cities in the country historically and there has been no rioting there. Just some peaceful protesting that could have gotten ugly when they decided they were going to try to block the expressway and cops held their ground and used tear gas. The mayor then came out and actually managed to diffuse the situation and nothing is burning to the ground.
We're a conceal and carry state. Any potential criminals here are well aware of that fact and will step down any of their aspirations for the near future accordingly.
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There has been violence in such mid-sized/small cities as Rochester NY and Buffalo.
There seems to be a plan to keep the police off-balance by scattering the protests/riots at random, kinda like flashmobs.
The general experience seems to be that the protesters are local but the rioters are not. And the looters are prolly just opportunistic semi-locals ... you have to be close enough to get to where the protests are before the police get there, but I have seen (TV news from the air) looters peel off from a peaceful group of walking protesters to go in and grab stuff, and some literally drive up in cars. Then they scatter like cockroaches when they hear the sirens, drop their loot (if they can't run away fast enuf) and just walk away, acting casual.
LOOTERS ARE NOT PROTESTERS.
If you're going to organize a protest, you have to keep control of the group of people marching with you. Otherwise your protest will be drowned out by provocateurs and looters.
That's one thing about the Gilets Jaunes in France: they were a self-disciplined group whose message was not overtaken by outside actors.
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But it's not happening much in states that respect the Second Amendment, isn't it?
Interestingly, there was a 70% increase in gun sales in April and another 80% increase in sales during May in the US, both compared to numbers last year for those months. It's estimated that as many as 40% of the sales in the last two months are first time gun buyers.
I keep hearing from family about stores being looted and houses being robbed in cities I grew up in and around back in Illinois. All of them less than a 50 mile drive from where I am now.
Meanwhile, I live really close to Gary, IN and do about half of my shopping there and not a peep here. Nobody here is afraid.
Interesting.
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I got an email from the White House with the title: "The Lying About Donald Trump is Now Completely Out of Control"
Why did Trump send that out? Because he is nuts and embarrassed:
Trump Now Says He Was Totally “Inspecting” the Bunker, Not Hiding in It
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/trump-fox-news-radio-kilme
ade-inspecting-bunker-not-hiding-protest.html
President Donald Trump called into Fox friend Brian Kilmeade’s Fox Radio show Wednesday morning to address reports that the Secret Service rushed him to an underground bunker Friday night as protests swelled outside the White House. Trump was reported to have spent approximately an hour in the secure location, where he was joined by his wife, Melania, and youngest son, Barron. The news that several thousand protesters on Pennsylvania Avenue forced such a retreat put a sizable limp in Trump’s tough guy swagger. To rectify the appearance that he was hiding out, Trump blasted his way through unarmed protesters Tuesday to St. John’s Church. But even that might not have been enough for the historically thin-skinned president. So he had to come up with something, and boy did he:
Trump says he went to the White House bunker for inspection! lol
“It was a false report. I wasn’t down,” Trump said. “I went down during the day, and I was there for a tiny, little short period of time, and it was much more for an inspection. There was no problem during the day.” Kilmeade asked Trump if he was “inspecting” the bunker because the Secret Service expressed concern for his safety? “Nope, they didn’t tell me that at all,” he said. “They said it would be a good time to go down, take a look, because maybe some time you’re going to need it.”
Trump is not brave. He's President Chicken.
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Well, to be fair, he's got thousands of ultra-left-wing weirdos telling him to end himself on a daily basis, and Antifags ripping through the city burning everything down.
How the fuck did Democrats get so fucking terrible in 2020 that I'm actually starting to change my mind about martial law? What the fuck are you idiots doing?
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Quote:The Republicans I know in Texas, going back to the 1960's, have always reacted exactly like you do. They are stressed out; they want a gun; they want police or military protection; they squawk. They act like chickens and The Chicken President. Humorously, the men think they are roosters, but they are fat capons.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well, to be fair, he's got thousands of ultra-left-wing weirdos telling him to end himself on a daily basis, and Antifags ripping through the city burning everything down.
How the fuck did Democrats get so fucking terrible in 2020 that I'm actually starting to change my mind about martial law? What the fuck are you idiots doing?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SIX: If you live outside of a dozen or two of the largest and worst Democrat ran shitholes here, you're fine.
I'm literally a few miles away from one of the most crime ridden cities in the country historically and there has been no rioting there. Just some peaceful protesting that could have gotten ugly when they decided they were going to try to block the expressway and cops held their ground and used tear gas. The mayor then came out and actually managed to diffuse the situation and nothing is burning to the ground.
We're a conceal and carry state. Any potential criminals here are well aware of that fact and will step down any of their aspirations for the near future accordingly.
SIGNY: There has been violence in such mid-sized/small cities as Rochester NY and Buffalo.
There seems to be a plan to keep the police off-balance by scattering the protests/riots at random, kinda like flashmobs.
The general experience seems to be that the protesters are local but the rioters are not. And the looters are prolly just opportunistic semi-locals ... you have to be close enough to get to where the protests are before the police get there, but I have seen (TV news from the air) looters peel off from a peaceful group of walking protesters to go in and grab stuff, and some literally drive up in cars. Then they scatter like cockroaches when they hear the sirens, drop their loot (if they can't run away fast enuf) and just walk away, acting casual.
LOOTERS ARE NOT PROTESTERS.
If you're going to organize a protest, you have to keep control of the group of people marching with you. Otherwise your protest will be drowned out by provocateurs and looters.
That's one thing about the Gilets Jaunes in France: they were a self-disciplined group whose message was not overtaken by outside actors.
SIX: But it's not happening much in states that respect the Second Amendment, isn't it?
Interestingly, there was a 70% increase in gun sales in April and another 80% increase in sales during May in the US, both compared to numbers last year for those months. It's estimated that as many as 40% of the sales in the last two months are first time gun buyers.
I keep hearing from family about stores being looted and houses being robbed in cities I grew up in and around back in Illinois. All of them less than a 50 mile drive from where I am now.
Meanwhile, I live really close to Gary, IN and do about half of my shopping there and not a peep here. Nobody here is afraid.
Interesting.
I'm not sure which states are considered Second Amendment states. By map, it looks like this is a county-by-county decision. By map, it looks like about 15 states consider CC to be a constitutional right, about another 26 have "shall issue" (must issue) policies, Hawaii; the CA counties of Imperial, LA, Santa Barbara, SF, Santa Cruz, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Alameda, and Marin; Delaware, New Jersey, and Long Island county "may issue" but in effect don't, most of the rest of the counties are "may issue" but in effect act as "shall issue".
SOME states (California, Connecticut, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York) do not recognize concealed carry permits from other states.
There was a riot in Indianapolis, which is a concealed carry county? There were riots in Miami and West Palm Beach, and Florida supposedly has very generous gun laws (concealed carry, "stand your ground" and "castle doctrine") so I guess I would have to look into this ... were the targets of the riots and looting the kind you would expect to be protected by homeowners and storekeepers with weapons, or were they more "official" targets" like police HQ and city hall?
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To be fair, if Secret Service thought Trump was in danger, they wold have hustled him into a bunker whether he wanted to go or not. He could have countermanded that push, but that would have been stupid. He SHOULD be in a bunker.
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Quote:But what actually happened is Trump ran like a chicken to shelter.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
To be fair, if Secret Service thought Trump was in danger, they wold have hustled him into a bunker whether he wanted to go or not. He could have countermanded that push, but that would have been stupid. He SHOULD be in a bunker.
Quote:www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/donald-trump-bunker-secret-service-pro
The facts are simply not under dispute. So, why would Trump describe it falsely to Fox?
Simple. There is nothing Trump hates more than weakness. And the image of him cowering in an underground bunker while protesters stood outside the gates of the White House is simply not something he can accept. This is a man who has been telling himself a story of his life -- one in which he is always the toughest, the smartest and the winner-est -- for, well, his entire adult life.
While his image of toughness and strength is deeply warped, it is all he has. It is the building block on which Trump has built a person and a career -- in and out of politics.
It's why he wanted to clear protesters out of Lafayette Park, stroll across H Street and hold up a Bible in front of the historic St. John's Church -- all the while flocked by a phalanx of law enforcement officials. It's why he tells governors that they need to "dominate" the streets against protesters and says things like "I am your President of law and order." And it's why he feels the need to suggest, within the friendly confines of Fox News, that he was really only going down to the bunker to "inspect" it.
He could have gone anytime, of course! It was just a coincidence he was down there amid the protests outside the White House! Just going down to make sure all the buttons worked! All the brass was sufficiently polished! And the like.
I mean, its farcical on its very face. Most people -- presidents or not -- wouldn't be able to pull off saying it with a straight face, knowing how ridiculous it would sound to, well, almost everyone.
Trump is, of course, not most people. Which is a fact that he reminds us of every single day he resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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Quote:Even the Pentagon thinks you and Trump are nuts about martial law:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well, to be fair, he's got thousands of ultra-left-wing weirdos telling him to end himself on a daily basis, and Antifags ripping through the city burning everything down.
How the fuck did Democrats get so fucking terrible in 2020 that I'm actually starting to change my mind about martial law? What the fuck are you idiots doing?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Pentagon chief breaking with Trump over protest response
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper is on shaky ground with the White House after saying Wednesday that he does not support using active duty troops to quell the large-scale protests across the United States triggered by the death of George Floyd and those forces should only be used in a law enforcement role as a last resort.
Speaking from the Pentagon briefing room podium, Esper noted that "we are not in one of those situations now," distancing himself from President Donald Trump's recent threat to deploy the military to enforce order.
"The option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort, and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. We are not in one of those situations now. I do not support invoking the Insurrection Act," he told reporters. Esper also distanced himself from a maligned photo-op outside St. John's Church.
Wednesday's press briefing by Esper went over poorly at the White House, where he was already viewed to be on shaky ground, multiple people familiar with the matter said.
Esper's comments Wednesday came after defense officials told CNN this week that there was deep and growing discomfort among some in the Pentagon even before Trump announced Monday that he is ready to deploy active duty forces if local leaders fail to ramp up enforcement efforts.
As tear gas wafted through the air in Lafayette Park across from the White House, Trump announced from the Rose Garden that if state or city leaders refuse "to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents," he will invoke the Insurrection Act, an 1807 law that allows a president to deploy the US military to suppress civil disorder.
Esper and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have faced a flurry of questions and criticism in the wake of Trump's comments, pressure that culminated in Esper's appearance in the Pentagon briefing room Wednesday where he attempted to distance himself from the President's rhetoric.
Republicans defend Esper
Outside the GOP lunch Wednesday, Republican Sen. Mitt Romney said that he hopes the President will listen to Esper's perspective, telling reporters: "I think Secretary Esper has the right to express his point of view, and the President does his, and I hope the President is willing to listen to the perspective of others and take that into account as he makes his decisions."
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a Republican from West Virginia, said she is "glad" Esper "made his views" on the Insurrection Act known.
The secretary of defense "needs to be able to express his opinion, which is what he did," she told reporters Wednesday.
Rep. Mac Thornberry, the top Republican on the House Armed Services said it would be appropriate for Esper and chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark Milley, to testify before the committee if the President followed through on his threat to invoke the Insurrection Act, a move that Esper made clear on Wednesday he did not believe was necessary at this time.
"I am concerned that in the current environment, it would be all too easy to put our men and women in uniform in the middle of a domestic political and cultural crisis. Discussions regarding the Insurrection Act could easily make them political pawns. The respect, trust, and support our troops have earned from their fellow citizens is the foundation of
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Quote:6ix, you have it backwards or upside down. It's Trump who is the weirdo. The Officers are shocked by what an idiot Trump is doing. Military commanders are finally speaking out against Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well, to be fair, he's got thousands of ultra-left-wing weirdos telling him to end himself on a daily basis, and Antifags ripping through the city burning everything down.
How the fuck did Democrats get so fucking terrible in 2020 that I'm actually starting to change my mind about martial law? What the fuck are you idiots doing?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The first public outburst came on Tuesday, from retired Adm. Mike Mullen, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who wrote in the Atlantic, “I have to date been reticent to speak out on issues surrounding President Trump’s leadership, but we are at an inflection point, and the events of the past few weeks have made it impossible to remain silent.”
Mullen wrote, Trump “laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces.”
Mullen wrote that he was confident that the men and women in uniform “will obey lawful orders. But,” he added, “I am less confident in the orders they will be given by this commander in chief.”
The admiral’s words followed similar commentary, mainly on Twitter, from retired Gen. Martin Dempsey, another former JCS chairman; retired Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and NSA; and retired Gen. Tony Thomas, former head of Special Operations Command.
Active-duty officers are also beginning to speak out.
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper—a former West Point cadet and Army infantry officer—may have been chastened not just by these statements but also by a letter from James Miller, a former undersecretary of defense, who on Tuesday resigned in protest as a leader of the Defense Science Board since 2014. In his resignation letter, which Miller sent to the Washington Post for publication, he wrote that, by accompanying Trump to St. John’s Church after nearby peaceful protesters were dispersed by tear gas, Esper had violated his oath of office to “support and defend the Constitution.” Miller continued, “Anyone who takes the oath of office must decide where he or she will draw the line. I must now ask: If last night’s blatant violations at the church do not cross the line for you, what will?… I hope this letter of resignation will encourage you to again contemplate the obligations you understood … as well as your obligations to the men and women in our military and other Americans whose lives may be at stake.”
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/trump-commanders-esper-mul
len-miller.html
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