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Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?
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Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:43 PM
Quote:This is the fundamental misunderstanding that confuses all discussions of God's existence. How would I, or anyone, prove that Signym and 1kiki are Americans, not Russian trolls? It can't be done. That would be Signym and 1kiki who have to prove it because of the anonymizing of fireflyfans.net. Because of the structure of the entire Universe, God is being anonymized just the same way as are Signym and 1kiki. It is not for us to prove God's existence. God will have to step forward, and do it often, to halt all this idle chit-chat about God's existence. Otherwise, God doesn't exist as the Alpha/Omega, and Signym and 1kiki don't exist as more than Russian Trolls. At that point the question gets more interesting: why does God not step forward? Privacy concerns? Oh, please. Is God in a contest with Satan and the rules are God can't step forward until the game is over? Oh, that would be fun, but kind of unlikely. I'd like to see the winner receive the game-prize before Covid-19 kills me! The Encyclopedia says that God will win, but doesn't say when or what the prize is:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Hmmm.... still no proof from SECOND.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SECOND: There is a way to prove it
KIKI: Then prove it.
www.britannica.com/topic/Christianity/Satan-and-the-origin-of-evil
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:54 PM
Quote:It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How would ANYONE prove I'm American?
** I ** know how ** I ** would prove it! But you'll have to figure it our for yourself.
http://fireflyfans.net/profileshow.aspx?u=739
https://twitter.com/Haken
Alternatively, if you don't want to go through Hakan as an intermediary, post your phone number here. If it starts with a 7, you are Russian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes#Zone_7:_Pa
rts_of_the_former_Soviet_Union
I'm not sure how God would post his phone number or send a postcard. Probably God would come in person, skipping the electronics and stamps.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:02 AM
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How would I, or anyone, prove that Signym and 1kiki are Americans, not Russian trolls? It can't be done.
Quote:Since I am 'anyone', you've just shown it CAN be done by 'anyone'!
It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
How clever of you - to dispute yourself and prove yourself wrong!
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:33 AM
Quote:The proof of 1kiki's existence as an American citizen will require 1kiki to get involved. If 1kiki won't because of shyness or death or Russianess, then proof in not possible unless you know where 1kiki lives in America and kick down the door. Likewise, the proof of God's existence requires God to get involved. If God won't, for whatever reasons, then proof of God's existence is not possible unless you know what door to kick down in God's dwelling place.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
How would I, or anyone, prove that Signym and 1kiki are Americans, not Russian trolls? It can't be done.Quote:Since I am 'anyone', you've just shown it CAN be done by 'anyone'!
It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
How clever of you - to dispute yourself and prove yourself wrong!
Most people think in abstractions, that they can prove God's existence without God actively getting involved and God sending signals/postcards or God coming in person to them. That's why we have these long and meandering discussions about God's existence that never accomplish anything. We are trying unsuccessfully to compensate for God being on a long vacation or early retirement or God's extreme shyness/non-existence.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:45 AM
Yawn ...
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:52 PM
Quote:You have confused a coin toss with a miracle. Pray for heads or pray for tails. Whatever comes up proves nothing about God, but if the flipped silver dollar lands as a bag full of gold doubloons, that is proof God exists. Or if an egomaniac resigns with grace from the Presidency because he is inadequate handling Covid-19, that is proof.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Disproving God's existence changes nothing. It is not worth doing. Where humans are right now, this very second, is where God is either on a million year long unscheduled vacation, or God prematurely retired, or God is dead. But if God suddenly woke up from his napping on the job, it would make life very interesting for humans and very easy to prove God exists. Some examples of proof:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).
You're going to have to define exactly what you think God's "job" is.
You sound like a whiny angsty teen now. Maybe an emo rock song. Please, don't cut yourself.Quote:
“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
— Donald Trump
If Covid-19 disappears, that is proof God exists. God is back from his vacation!
No. That would not be proof that God exists.Quote:
“I resign. Mike Pence is now President.”
— Donald Trump
That is proof God exists. God is reading the news and picked up the phone and called Trump.
No. That would not be proof that God exists either.
How many football players do you suppose have prayed to God before a game that they play well and they win the game? How many football fans have prayed that their team plays well and wins the game, for that matter?
Both teams can't win. God can't be everything to everyone at all times.
This is exactly what your examples are. Subjective crap.
And if we're going to be leaving the decision up to God to make the winning team the one who prayed the hardest, I hate to break it to you... it won't be Biden winning in November. (Which is what is going to happen anyhow, but it has nothing to do with prayer).
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/signs-you-may-be-an-egomaniac.html
British medical journal The Lancet says Americans should oust President Trump from the White House and elect a leader who will support – rather than undermine – public health experts who are battling the COVID-19 pandemic. If God exists, he would act.
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/ful
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The Administration is obsessed with magic bullets—vaccines, new medicines, or a hope that the virus will simply disappear. But only a steadfast reliance on basic public health principles, like test, trace, and isolate, will see the emergency brought to an end, and this requires an effective national public health agency. (God or) Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
This is a conversation about an overblown cold and the existance of God.
How the fuck do you find a way to link Trump into every single line of dialogue you make?
Is it outside the parameters of your programming to have a conversation about anything that doesn't devolve to Trump?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:54 PM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How would ANYONE prove I'm American?
** I ** know how ** I ** would prove it! But you'll have to figure it our for yourself.
http://fireflyfans.net/profileshow.aspx?u=739
https://twitter.com/Haken
Alternatively, if you don't want to go through Hakan as an intermediary, post your phone number here. If it starts with a 7, you are Russian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes#Zone_7:_Pa
rts_of_the_former_Soviet_Union
I'm not sure how God would post his phone number or send a postcard. Probably God would come in person, skipping the electronics and stamps.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Since we're all posting our phone numbers in here now, how about you go first, Second.
Then everybody else can use what happens to you as a warning not to do that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:22 PM
Quote:I've got nothing to prove and I guess God has the same attitude: "Believe or don't believe in me but I've got nothing to prove." Because God is being uncooperative, and because God arranged the Universe so God's existence can't be proved without God doing the equivalent of posting his phone number at fff.net, we aren't making any progress with that proof. We could next argue about why God is uncooperative or why God's privacy is paramount in the structure of the Universe or why Covid-19 exists. We can prove Covid-19 exists, at least according to the MSM stories, so, we are making significant progress. Maybe Covid-19 is a test from Heaven? You pass the test only if you do what God expects. It just so happens that the MSM reported on how to Pass The Test: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&mid=11009
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Since we're all posting our phone numbers in here now, how about you go first, Second.
Then everybody else can use what happens to you as a warning not to do that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
03#1100903
I noticed that 6ixStringJack flunked The Test because he thinks it is Communism to wear masks.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 8:08 PM
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Uhhhhh.... no. I did a lot of research and polling methodologies were severely flawed and skewed in favor of Clinton. Particularly in battleground states like Florida. According to the odds-makers like Nate Silver, a Trump win was more like having one face that said Trump on a 10 sided die and Clinton's name on the other 9 sides. It's what lead up to the absolute shock and horror you saw from Clinton fans, yanno, with all the screaming and crying in the streets and online, followed by weeks of protesting "not my president" and "Fuck Trump", followed by years of TDS and the Legacy Media putting out anti-Trump stories every single day to the point where nobody except for the cry babies even pay attention to them anymore.
It wasn't a guess. It was a confident statement in spite of everyone else telling me that I was wrong. It was easy to see who was going to win if you looked beneath the Legacy Media lies.
Feel free to go back and look at my posts on the topic around that time.
Sorry, EVERYONE guessed. Even Nate, who actually does do Research (the idea that you did anything close to real research... can't laugh hard enough, thanks). His was one of the most educated guesses and even he was wrong. You got lucky by following your feelz.
I love how Trumpers can't fathom that there's an actual reason why "President Trump" is a horrifying idea. They'd rather just act superior (we're on the winning side!) than consider that he really is a Lying SoS that wouldn't slow down to spit on them. Let me know how the veal is next time you eat at Mara Lago. You show up there and they wouldn't even let you in the servants' entrance. There's something about their unquestioned devotion to a - let's be honest - a pretty bad conman, that has Jim Jones cultism all over it. Not only could and does Trump get away with murder, I bet many of his followers would die for him without a blink. And hey, there they go. Headed out to bars, and packing in restaurants because they're lemming master said to. No masks, no distancing, not even a consideration for who they might infect. Just blindly follow.
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Sunday, May 17, 2020 8:22 PM
Quote:‘I don’t hate Donald, I hate you’ — Howard Stern, a longtime Trump friend, blasts those who voted for him. “I hate you for voting for him, for not having intelligence. For not being able to see what’s going on with the coronavirus, for not being able to see what the Justice Department is doing. I hate you, I don’t want you here.”
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I love how Trumpers can't fathom that there's an actual reason why "President Trump" is a horrifying idea. They'd rather just act superior (we're on the winning side!) than consider that he really is a Lying SoS that wouldn't slow down to spit on them. Let me know how the veal is next time you eat at Mara Lago. You show up there and they wouldn't even let you in the servants' entrance. There's something about their unquestioned devotion to a - let's be honest - a pretty bad conman, that has Jim Jones cultism all over it. Not only could and does Trump get away with murder, I bet many of his followers would die for him without a blink. And hey, there they go. Headed out to bars, and packing in restaurants because they're lemming master said to. No masks, no distancing, not even a consideration for who they might infect. Just blindly follow.
Stern went on to say that Trump would be “disgusted” by the MAGA crew. “Go to Mar-a-Lago, see if there is any people who look like you,” he said. “The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most.”
His advice to Trump? Do the right thing.
“I do think it would be extremely patriotic of Donald to say, ‘I’m in over my head and I don’t want to be president anymore,’” he said, while acknowledging that is not likely to happen. Stern, who has had the president on his show many times over his storied career in broadcasting, has long held the contention that Trump never wanted to actually win the election.
“I don’t think it was serious. I don’t think he wanted to be the president. I knew him. He had a great life at Mar-a-Lago.”
www.marketwatch.com/story/i-dont-hate-donald-i-hate-you-howard-stern-a
-longtime-trump-friend-blasts-those-who-voted-for-him-2020-05-13
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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