Some Covid-19 thoughts
POSTED BY: captaincrunch
UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
First, tho, I'll sanitize it.
Heh - All of our mail sits in our garage for 3 days before we open it. And then it gets a sani-wipe down first. Not panicked but not f*cking around either.
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Lockdowns work. See the graphs at:
https://angrybearblog.com/2020/03/lockdowns-work.html
We only need complete lockdowns a few weeks, during which we ramp up manufacture and supplies to test kits and emergency medical equipment like masks and ventilators.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
First, tho, I'll sanitize it.
Heh - All of our mail sits in our garage for 3 days before we open it. And then it gets a sani-wipe down first. Not panicked but not f*cking around either.
I lick all of the envelopes after I open them because I like the way the glue tastes.
Still tastes good in March of 2020.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SIX: Freedom is sacrosanct.
No, it isn't.
sacrosanct: most holy or inviolable
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sacrosanct
inviolable:
1 : secure from violation or profanation an inviolable law
2 : secure from assault or trespass : unassailable
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inviolable
The other overused word is "inalienable".
Oxford doesn't agree. I guess like anything else it's all a matter of perspective.
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sacrosanct
Pronunciation /'sakro?saNG(k)t/ /'sækro??sæ?(k)t/
adjective
(especially of a principle, place, or routine) regarded as too important or valuable to be interfered with.
‘the individual's right to work has been upheld as sacrosanct’
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/sacrosanct (Powered by Oxford, who charges you a monthly fee to use their online dictionary but offers a bunch of other stuff too)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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More:
- we're rich! The Gov check's in the mail! Just don't go out and spend it. 
- starting to recognize people that have died from c-19 - not close friends or acquaintances, but familiar people. Sucks.
- imho turning the corner (when things can START getting back to normal) can only happen when a treatment happens. Not a vaccine, that would be great of course, but that sounds like it's way off. An actual drug that stricken people can take for recovery. The economy is going to be depressed until people can be around other people. All pretty obvious.
- what do people who have survived c-19 do next? Can they get it again? I have not seen any definitive answer to that.
#STAYTHEFUCKHOME
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Quote:Yes, they can. It's been shown in Japan and Korea. What's not known is how common or rare that is. It's also not known if second infections are milder (due to antibodies) or worse (due to cytokine storm) because both have happened. What seems somewhat clear is that those people aren't infectious.
- what do people who have survived c-19 do next? Can they get it again? I have not seen any definitive answer to that.
#STAYTHEFUCKHOME
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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- we're rich! The Gov check's in the mail! Just don't go out and spend it.
- starting to recognize people that have died from c-19 - not close friends or acquaintances, but familiar people. Sucks.
- imho turning the corner (when things can START getting back to normal) can only happen when a treatment happens. Not a vaccine, that would be great of course, but that sounds like it's way off. An actual drug that stricken people can take for recovery. The economy is going to be depressed until people can be around other people. All pretty obvious.
- what do people who have survived c-19 do next? Can they get it again? I have not seen any definitive answer to that.
#STAYTHEFUCKHOME
There has been no definitive data on whether or not you can get it again. Any "reports" stating that were weeks ago, back when there were also claims that COVID-19 caused infertility in males. Another claim that could have come from any anonymous source to cause even more panic. (China? Russia? Putin himself?)
Don't believe anything until the CDC/WHO says it definitively, and always maintain a healthy amount of skepticism. Certainly don't listen to anything that Kiki has to say about this.
Those checks are coming, but CNN has already warned not to expect them until sometime in mid May. I think that's a very conservative timeline, and actually some responsible reporting on their part for once. I think most Americans will get it much sooner than that. A majority of Americans file their taxes online now, and a smaller majority even provides their banking info for direct deposit. If you do both of those, you will be among the first to get it. They are going to look at your 2018 taxes (filed 2019) immediately if you haven't already field your 2019 taxes (filed 2020) yet.
I think the warning about not expecting it until May is just a blanket statement for people like my Grandma who hasn't filed taxes in years because she's on SSI, and my brother who doesn't because he's on SSDI. I can't imagine that it's going to be the easiest thing in the world to get money to people under those circumstances. Although it still hasn't been mentioned in the media, I would urge anybody to make sure that people they know who live in similar conditions at least file their Census info ASAP to be counted, even though they do not provide their SS# or any banking information with the Census. At least they'll be counted and have their address on file, which will probably help, and certainly can't hurt.
About Unemployment... (And JO, you've been avoiding the question so far, but I REALLY hope you filed for it....)
The wording is still somewhat murky now, but from what I gather there will be a 13 week extension of benefits for now, with an additional $600 per week kicked in by the Federal Government (for up to 4 months). There may or may not be an additional amount added to the normal state percentage of your working income as well, but that would probably vary on a state by state basis since the rates themselves can already vary wildly depending on where you live.
It also seems that any "grace period" that usually means 1 or 2 weeks without any UI benefits will not be in place for now and the Federal Government will be picking up that tab until the state benefits would normally kick in.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SIX: Freedom is sacrosanct.
SIGNY:No, it isn't.
sacrosanct: most holy or inviolable
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sacrosanct
inviolable:
1 : secure from violation or profanation an inviolable law
2 : secure from assault or trespass : unassailable
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inviolable
The other overused word is "inalienable".
SIX: Oxford doesn't agree. I guess like anything else it's all a matter of perspective.
sacrosanct
Pronunciation /'sakro?saNG(k)t/ /'sækro??sæ?(k)t/
adjective
(especially of a principle, place, or routine) regarded as too important or valuable to be interfered with.*
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/sacrosanct (Powered by Oxford, who charges you a monthly fee to use their online dictionary but offers a bunch of other stuff too)
Wow, how many online dictionaries did you have to pursue to find THAT one, which is a rather uncommon definition?
But, OK, I'll bite
*Regarded as too important or valuable...
Regarded by WHOM, exactly? Nobody I can think of regards "freedom" as "sacrosanct". Most people are willing to give up some freedom for some benefit; that is the principle of The Social Contract by Jean Jacques Rousseau. Here's the abbreviated version for ppl with ADHD https://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/socialcontract/summary/
Even YOU don't believe "freedom" is "sacrosanct". Do you feel free to murder, except in self defense or the immediate defense of someone else? Are you free to rob? Do you feel free to gross people out with bad breath and bad hygiene when in company? Even YOU accept limits on your behavior because, yanno, society.
TPTB ESPECIALLY don't regard freedom as "sacrosanct", particularly YOUR freedom. THEY feel quite willing to kill and rob (or to pay someone to do it for them) but YOUR freedoms are squashed without thought, like cockroaches.
So, where is freedom regarded as sacrosanct?
Maybe what you meant to say was Freedom should be sacrosanct as a statement of the ideal because in real life it isn't.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#STAYTHEFUCKHOME
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I think I have an answer for the two shit-sandwiches (economy v contagion) that Trump is forced to take a bite of...
Since young people are at much LOWER risk of death (not negligible, still 2X higher than "the flu") why not let THEM out of the cage? People over 50, people with pre-existing conditions should STILL self-isolate, and they should STILL get benefits for #stayingthefuckhome but the younger people can be let loose to take their chances.
Yanno, kind of a reverse isolation: isolate the well, instead of the sick? This might be the "next step" after the swell of sick people flooding the hospitals has peaked and declined.
We won't achieve "herd immunity" that way, since the under-50 only represents 65% of the population (with an Rnaught of somewhere between 2.5 and 7, you need roughly 80-85% infection rate) but at least people like SIX won't be yowling about his freedoms being infringed.
There would need to be all kinds of thought given to health care workers, teachers, etc who would have to regard EVERYONE as potentially infectious, but maybe after the swell has peaked and gone down there might be enough supplies and enough tests at least for teachers etc.
Of course, junior and juniorette would have to isolate themselves from at-risk family members. Maybe that would propel them out of mom's and dad's basements.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#STAYTHEFUCKHOME
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The unemployment claimz hav spiked way the hell up. They were alredy swamped, so I'm not wasting my time to ask for money wen I probably woudnt get any and still dont need it. Minimize paperwork!
Speaking uv that, I gotta start bending my brain to the task uv doing taxez.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
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