STAR WARS Episode 9: The Final Abortion
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Quote:The cartoon Mulan (1998) www.imdb.com/title/tt0120762/
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Knowing the Chinese like we do in 2020, they were no doubt showing this along with every other US produced movie in theaters back then and not paying any money for licensing fees and reaping 100% of the profits off of them. Who knows how much bootleg money was spent to go see Beauty and the Beast in China in 1991?
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has Eddie Murphy as Mushu the Dragon and many non-Chinese actors.
When Disney made the live action version of Mulan (2020) the actors were Chinese, and no Eddie Murphy, no Mushu. I'm pretty sure Disney was bent to the will of Peking, oops, I mean Beijing.
www.imdb.com/title/tt4566758/
And then there is this complicated rewriting of the cartoon to please Peking (Beijing):
On February 27, 2020, film producer Jason Reed said that Mulan's love interest Captain Li Shang was dropped in response to the "Me Too movement". In his statement, he explained that "having a commanding officer that is also the sexual love interest was very uncomfortable and we didn’t think it was appropriate". The reasoning behind the removal was met with social media backlash from fans of the original movie, and some from the LGBTQ community who cited Shang's supposed bisexual relationship with "Ping". Reed acknowledged that Shang had become a "LGBTQ icon", and was initially surprised by criticism of the character's removal. It was also stated by the producer that Li Shang's character would be split into two new characters, Commander Tung and Chen Honghui.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulan_(2020_film)#Controversies
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The cartoon Mulan (1998) www.imdb.com/title/tt0120762/
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Knowing the Chinese like we do in 2020, they were no doubt showing this along with every other US produced movie in theaters back then and not paying any money for licensing fees and reaping 100% of the profits off of them. Who knows how much bootleg money was spent to go see Beauty and the Beast in China in 1991?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
has Eddie Murphy as Mushu the Dragon and many non-Chinese actors.
When Disney made the live action version of Mulan (2020) the actors were Chinese, and no Eddie Murphy, no Mushu. I'm pretty sure Disney was bent to the will of Peking, oops, I mean Beijing.
www.imdb.com/title/tt4566758/
And then there is this complicated rewriting of the cartoon to please Peking (Beijing):
On February 27, 2020, film producer Jason Reed said that Mulan's love interest Captain Li Shang was dropped in response to the "Me Too movement". In his statement, he explained that "having a commanding officer that is also the sexual love interest was very uncomfortable and we didn’t think it was appropriate". The reasoning behind the removal was met with social media backlash from fans of the original movie, and some from the LGBTQ community who cited Shang's supposed bisexual relationship with "Ping". Reed acknowledged that Shang had become a "LGBTQ icon", and was initially surprised by criticism of the character's removal. It was also stated by the producer that Li Shang's character would be split into two new characters, Commander Tung and Chen Honghui.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulan_(2020_film)#Controversies
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Yup. That's an issue I'm surprised nobody else has ever brought up on the board or discussed in depth.
Blocking Chinese screenings for Deadpool and Joker didn't seem to hurt them at all, but they could have made a lot more if they weren't blocked there. Then you have other movies which did terribly on top of the fact they didn't get released in China, like Ghostbusters (2016).
The new Disney movie Onward has a one-off reference from a female character about their girlfriend and didn't even get shown in China either. Russia played it, but had that line changed from "girlfriend" to "partner".
Oh... and about Mulan...
Seems that enough wasn't done. SJW idiots here are complaining that Mulan was too white behind the camera.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/16/disneys-mulan-accused-of-bei
ng-too-white-behind-the-camera/
For Mulan 2, I suggest that they raise the money and film the production in China if they want to have all Asian people behind the camera and we won't have this problem next time.
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Star Wars actually saw an increase from Tuesday to Wednesday. That's something else I've never seen happen before since the deals are on Tuesday night.
Nothing serious, and still a $3 per screen average, but 5% is 5%.
Up from $554 to $582.
It's unclear at this point if it's even going to be in the theaters anymore after this week. Despite all the panic, there are still confirmed numbers coming out of theaters remaining open in the country, although there a seriously tiny amount.
Some studios haven't put their numbers out yet and will do so tomorrow, but the-numbers.com has the current confirmed screens out and it looks like only 5 movies are showing in the entire country so far.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/245740830-Weekend-Theater-Counts-Earl
y-Reports-Point-to-a-Steep-Dive-in-Screens
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Won't make as much $ as Rogue One or The Last Jedi
Ouch.
The pinnacle of a 40 yr old space saga goes out on a down note.
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Yup...
And it looks to have been beaten quite a bit by Joker, despite (allegedly) costing 195 Million more to make. (that's a number that was never increased after all the last minute reshoots and editing, so who knows really).
Crazy to think that when you look at the first week numbers for both movies. Rise of Skywalker made just shy of $290 Million compared to Joker's 138 Million.
It shouldn't have even been close, regardless of how bad it was.
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And Joker didn't show in theatres in China.
A nation of 1.3 billion.
Hard for me to imagine that SWTROS " made " that much money, to be honest.
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Well... and to be fair, it didn't do very well in China at all. It should have though.
It got $20 Million there. Out of $1 Billion+.
The Force Awakens got $120 Million+ out of $2 Billion+
The Last Jedi got $40 Million+ out of $1.3 Billion+
Really... when looking at those numbers, even for Episode VII, it's kind of hard to imagine why Hollywood keeps bending the knee to China and letting the Chinese authorities what they can and can't put in their movies.
Sure... 120 Million is nothing to sneeze at, but not in one instance above was China the top international country that was showing them.
I'm going to assume that if China showed Joker, it would have only added roughly $60 Million to the Worldwide Gross.
But at what cost though?
If they had to water it down to where it wasn't even recognizable just to appease the Chinese Overlords, it probably wouldn't have even made $500 Million Worldwide.
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ok...finally watched it last night in my home theater...honestly the wife said she liked it...and I guess, as Star Wars properties go, it was on par...but saying that isn't a good thing...uninteresting main characters, setup of expectations that something serious was about to happen, and then it never really delivers...waaaay overdone nostaligia...really pushing it to try and find ways to bring old cast in for one last appearance and yet they really didn't do anything of consequence... I've probably just aged out, or have come to enjoy more mature stories like my Firefly and Expanse..the bring more to the plate in a single hour epi than the star wars franchise can bring in 3 connected movies...anyway..all done..can't imagine rewatching any of the "Rey" trilogy..just like I haven't gone back.. EVER...for a second helping of the "Natalie Portman can't act" trilogy.
forever grateful for the very first movie that came along at a time when we were starved for anything space-fi.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... and to be fair, it didn't do very well in China at all. It should have though.
It got $20 Million there. Out of $1 Billion+.
The Force Awakens got $120 Million+ out of $2 Billion+
The Last Jedi got $40 Million+ out of $1.3 Billion+
Really... when looking at those numbers, even for Episode VII, it's kind of hard to imagine why Hollywood keeps bending the knee to China and letting the Chinese authorities what they can and can't put in their movies.
Sure... 120 Million is nothing to sneeze at, but not in one instance above was China the top international country that was showing them.
I'm going to assume that if China showed Joker, it would have only added roughly $60 Million to the Worldwide Gross.
But at what cost though?
If they had to water it down to where it wasn't even recognizable just to appease the Chinese Overlords, it probably wouldn't have even made $500 Million Worldwide.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Money is money. If they showed a hacked up version that made no sense... it's still a profit.
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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
ok...finally watched it last night in my home theater...honestly the wife said she liked it...and I guess, as Star Wars properties go, it was on par...but saying that isn't a good thing...uninteresting main characters, setup of expectations that something serious was about to happen, and then it never really delivers...waaaay overdone nostaligia...really pushing it to try and find ways to bring old cast in for one last appearance and yet they really didn't do anything of consequence... I've probably just aged out, or have come to enjoy more mature stories like my Firefly and Expanse..the bring more to the plate in a single hour epi than the star wars franchise can bring in 3 connected movies...anyway..all done..can't imagine rewatching any of the "Rey" trilogy..just like I haven't gone back.. EVER...for a second helping of the "Natalie Portman can't act" trilogy.
forever grateful for the very first movie that came along at a time when we were starved for anything space-fi.
Thanks for the objective review. :)
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