new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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lol rich people.
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Quote:Definitely fudging numbers - what the CDC is for.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
More US cases, in more US states, with more US deaths, and now the US has it's own (Grand) 'Princess' cruise ship experiment, to see if it can do better than Japan.
The ship afaik sailed round trip between SanFran and Mexico, with 2 passengers who developed symptoms during the cruise debarking in SanFran, with one layer dying. The ship was to sail from SanFran with a call in Ensanada before sailing on to Hawaii, with 62 people still on board from the earlier Mexico trip for the Hawaii trip. It was called back from its route and has dropped anchor off of SanFran while officials determine what to do. But because it's 'travel' related - thought not to or from any high-risk areas - it's not considered community spread. I would consider that fudging the numbers. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/03/04/1st-california-coronaviru
s-death-san-francisco-mexico-princess-cruise-ship-placer-county/
The one thing there is less of is test kits being delivered as compared to how many were promised.
So, it got called back as a caution, or something was up before it headed to HI?
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Quote:Thanks for the update.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Jumping in for KIKI ... antibodies are produced but they're insufficient to clear the virus, so both exist. That's not unheard-of: Once the immune system is activated the chickenpox symptoms disappear, but the virus isn't completely killed- it goes to hide in nerve cells and can re-emerge decades later as shingles. You still have circulating antibodies, tho.
It still looks like once the Antibody is produced, the Virus is displaced. Is this correct? or are you saying they co-exist side by side?
So, in all of these cases, do the bodies produce the Antibody? Or do HIV Present cases now have HIV Negative results for Antibody?
To help move this discussion along a bit, can you name the person who developed the hypothesis that "AIDS" was caused by HIV? If you wish to include the year, that is fine as well.
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Quote:This is as I understand the situation. The Grand Princess made the round trip SF to Mexico and back. At least 1 person developed symptoms onboard during that trip. A number of passengers disembarked on return to SF, 62 remained. Of the disembarked passengers, 2 later tested positive for SARS-COV-2, and one of the 2 passed away.
So, it (Grand Princess) got called back as a caution, or something was up before it headed to HI?
At that point the Grand Princess had already set sail for Mexico port of call, to eventually head to Hawaii. Before it reached Mexico, it was recalled to SF due to the test results/ death of the 2 disembarked passengers, but not allowed to dock. So I presume it dropped anchor somewhere in open water.
At this point afaik over 100 people, have flu-like symptoms.
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Quote:Eventually yes, people produce antibodies. Unfortunately, the antibodies aren't 'protective', meaning they don't allow the body to eliminate the virus. (And that's been a HUGE problem with creating a vaccine, which is why there's no deployed vaccine to this date. People do develop antibodies to the virus, but those antibodies don't 'neutralize' the virus.)
So, in all of these cases, do the bodies produce the Antibody? Or do HIV Present cases now have HIV Negative results for Antibody?
Quote:I don't remember the names of the individuals who did the research, but there were co-claims from both the CDC and the Pasteur Institute in Paris to have isolated the causative agent. It was ~1983.
To help move this discussion along a bit, can you name the person who developed the hypothesis that "AIDS" was caused by HIV? If you wish to include the year, that is fine as well.
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Quote:I hate to be a nudge about this, but I'm not going to move off that "correlation" that you claim exists until you find the data and link it or at least cite it.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Thanks for the update.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Jumping in for KIKI ... antibodies are produced but they're insufficient to clear the virus, so both exist. That's not unheard-of: Once the immune system is activated the chickenpox symptoms disappear, but the virus isn't completely killed- it goes to hide in nerve cells and can re-emerge decades later as shingles. You still have circulating antibodies, tho.
It still looks like once the Antibody is produced, the Virus is displaced. Is this correct? or are you saying they co-exist side by side?
So, in all of these cases, do the bodies produce the Antibody? Or do HIV Present cases now have HIV Negative results for Antibody?
To help move this discussion along a bit, can you name the person who developed the hypothesis that "AIDS" was caused by HIV? If you wish to include the year, that is fine as well.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:Not sure if Olympics has been mentioned in this thread. They claim to be holding off on a decision of whether to cancel.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:The pandemic bonds mature July 2020.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/03/asia/novel-coronavirus-covid-19-int
l-hnk/index.html
The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) said that public health officials are operating in "uncharted territory" as they combat the spread of the novel coronavirus, which has infected more than 90,000 people across 73 countries and territories as of Monday evening.
The WHO has so far held off on classifying the incident as a global pandemic, but has warned it is a possibility in the near future.Quote:Because there's "only" 100 cases in the US ... that they know of.
"Let's be clear: The risk to the American people of the coronavirus remains low, according to all of the experts that we are working with across the government," Pence said.
24 July in Tokyo.
Can they wait until the bonds mature before making a decision on the Games?
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This site
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
now says 16% of Active Cases are critical/serious, 6% of Closed cases are fatal.
DP cases have 6 deaths (down from 7!! Maybe 1 undied). 212 recovered, 35 serious/critical.
Germany is about to surpass Diamond Princess for 5th place.
US is in 10th place, with 221 cases and 9 recoveries. 12 deaths.
Canada is 24th place, with 45 cases, 8 recoveries. 0 deaths.
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
DP cases have 6 deaths (down from 7!! Maybe 1 undied). 212 recovered, 35 serious/critical.
You joke, but that's how the zombie apocalypse starts.
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From Feb 28.
More when I get time.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You must be trolling us.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just anecdotal "evidence" as far as I'm concerned.
AIDS isn't likely to be real.
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I mean, I knew in the beginning of the epidemic there were people who insisted ... INSISTED, I TELL YOU... that a retrovirus wasn't the cause of AIDS, that it was a "lifestyle" disease caused by drug use and the "homosexual lifestyle".
That non-homosexuals and non-drug users (like, children who caught it from their mothers during birth) also got AIDS? Piffle!
That clean living and vitamins didn't provide a cure? Just a hoax!
That the virus was isolated from patients and its sequence determined, and it was seen under electron microscope? An incidental finding!
That antivirals reversed the symptoms and allowed patients to live longer, healthier lives? A hoax by Big Pharma!
That the disease could be prevented by using condoms during sex, despite all the rest of the "homosexual lifestyle"? Sheer placebo effect!
It was as crazy-making as listening to a flat-earther deny direct, experiential evidence that the earth is round.
I thought that the idea of the "non-viral" origin of AIDS had disappeared under the onslaught of evidence, but apparently there still are adherents to the idea, just as there are still flat-earthers around.
Well, it takes all kinds, I guess! The world would be a lot less interesting if everyone just accepted evidence! Carry on!
To help move this discussion along a bit, can you name the person who developed the hypothesis that "AIDS" was caused by HIV? If you wish to include the year, that is fine as well.
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