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Quote:Sorry - NO ONE PERSON 'developed' the hypothesis. Teams did research and ISOLATED THE CAUSATIVE AGENT. Those teams were at the CDC and Pasteur Institute.
To help move this discussion along a bit, can you name the person who developed the hypothesis that "AIDS" was caused by HIV? If you wish to include the year, that is fine as well.
I'm sorry you don't understand the basics of scientific research, but I'm not going to create a high-school-through-graduate-level biology course of study for you just to make up for your lack of information.
If you don't like the history as it exists in the real world, feel free to look up whatever alternate reality you think might be out there on your own.
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Yes. Do a lot of research yourself about fake research that fake people did about a fake virus, JSF.
Or just drop it and let people live with their delusions. You or anybody you care about will never get AIDS because AIDS doesn't get anybody.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Except calling it a "pandemic", which would cost the buyers of "pandemic bonds" their investment.
“We are calling on every country to act with speed, scale and clear-minded determination,” the WHO’s director general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said at the UN health agency’s Geneva headquarters.
Tedros voiced concern that “some countries have either not taken this seriously enough, or have decided there is nothing they can do,” Reuters reports. “This is not the time to give up. This is not a time for excuses. This is a time for pulling out all the stops,” he added.
Sheesh.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:Your very first response JSF was something about some sort of correlation, which YOU claimed was at 92%. (oh btw that would be 0.92, not percent.) You have to show what you're correlating to what (Kaposi's sarcoma correlated to cocaine use?) first, and provide that data behind that correlation. It seems to be central to your opinion that AIDS isn't caused by the HIV, and I'm not going to "move the discussion along" at your convenience because you want to skip past that point
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
To help move this discussion along a bit, can you name the person who developed the hypothesis that "AIDS" was caused by HIV? If you wish to include the year, that is fine as well.
Still not going to move off that point, JSF.
You're a "numbers guy". Well, show me the numbers.
As I have said before, I used correlations all of the time at work. I even calculated the them good old-fashioned way (because Excel's spreadsheet didn't generate the same value. It seems as if it used some sort of calculation shortcut) The calculation is between "X" and "Y", not "X" and "A", or maybe "B" if I feel like it, or "C" if it bolsters my POV.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa-coronavirus/
As of March 06, 2020 at 17:52 GMT, there have been 240 confirmed cases and 14 deaths due to coronavirus COVID-19 in the United States.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html
COVID-19: Cases in the United States Reported to CDC*†
Travel-related 36
Person-to-person spread 18
Under Investigation 110
Total cases 164
† CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda75
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Johns Hopkins
US 241
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You know how many people are going to die from smoking in America by the end of December this year?
Half a million.
That's hardly a drop in the bucket, and we're doing it to ourselves.
Allegedly, 41,000 of those will be innocent by-standards who didn't do it to themselves and are going to die from 2nd hand exposure.
Total cases of Coronavirus in America after a month is under 200?
Color me unperturbed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I felt normal for a few hours yesterday after being sick 8 weeks ago. If they ever come out with a serology test (a blood test for antibodies) for COVID-19, and it's not over $1000 I'd consider getting tested, just to see.
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I Lived Through SARS and Reported on Ebola. These Are the Questions We Should Be Asking About Coronavirus.
For concerned civilians and journalists covering the coronavirus, the figures and projections can be overwhelming, frightening or confusing. Here’s what reporter Caroline Chen is focusing on to keep things as accurate and clear as possible.
by Caroline Chen March 5, 3:58 p.m. EST
Thai nurses and doctors check temperatures of travelers coming from Hong Kong at the Bangkok International Airport in April 2003, during the SARS outbreak. Reporter Caroline Chen lived through SARS, and she covered Ebola, Zika and, now, coronavirus. (Paula Bronstein/Getty Images)
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I grew up in Hong Kong and was 13 when SARS swept through the city, infecting about 1,750 people and killing nearly 300. As a teenager, the hardest part was being stuck at home and missing my friends. I only started to pay attention to the daily death toll after my parents decided that’s what would dictate when I could go back to school. But the experience shaped me. I picked up personal hygiene habits, like pressing elevator buttons with my knuckles. And I developed a deep respect for front-line medical workers, many of whom labored around the clock until they, too, succumbed.
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In 2014, I was a rookie reporter on the Bloomberg News health desk helping to cover the growing Ebola crisis in West Africa when we got word that the U.S. had its first diagnosed patient. My editor looked down his row of reporters and his eyes fell on me, the one with no familial obligations. “Hey Caroline,” he said, “want to go to Dallas today?” The experience gave me a deeper look into how governments and scientists grapple with a fast-moving, deadly target. I learned about contact tracing as I tagged along with CDC disease detectives. A colleague and I delved deep into how the government’s cumbersome contracting process delayed the development of a possible treatment for Ebola. I later covered Zika, reporting on Florida’s lonely fight against the virus, as Congress gave the state little assistance.
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Every time, I’ve seen the same gaps emerge in the public’s understanding of what’s really happening. On one side, I have epidemiologists and lab directors explaining to me, in excruciating detail, nuanced models and technicalities, like how PCR assays work. On the other side, I see oversimplified headlines and misleading statistics touted by government officials.
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Testing Is Still Limited
On Tuesday, after days of growing clamor to make more testing available, Vice President Mike Pence announced that the administration was issuing new guidance that “will make it clear that any American can be tested” for COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and said that 2,500 kits would be sent out this week, an equivalent of 1.5 million tests.
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Quote:SIX, you insist on thinking of this as a static situation - where the number of smokers stays approximately the same, and you're looking at lifetime risk- when it is instead a rapidly-evolving one when you need to be looking at the risk from this event. You're a smart guy; so adjust your thinking.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You know how many people are going to die from smoking in America by the end of December this year?
Half a million.
That's hardly a drop in the bucket, and we're doing it to ourselves.
Allegedly, 41,000 of those will be innocent by-standards who didn't do it to themselves and are going to die from 2nd hand exposure.
Total cases of Coronavirus in America after a month is under 200?
Color me unperturbed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
In a couple of weeks, the number of [detected] cases might be 5,000. A couple of weeks after that, it might be 50,000. After that, it might be in the hundreds of thousands. Instead of being backward-looking, try a bit of projection.
Now, for you, personally, your risk is low. You're a younger, reasonably healthy man living an isolated life. For me... not so young, not so healthy, in a county with a lot of international travel and contacts. My next-door neighbors? South Korean. Very Xtian. Maybe members of that doomsday cult thats 85% infected in Korea. They HAVE had S Kprean visitors in the past. Who's to say they aren't hosting someone from S Korea right now, someone who flew here to escape the risk? Someone who may have brought the risk with them?
Anyway, at the moment my risk is very low. I would consider being at-risk when there are roughly 1000 detected cases in LA County which might mean 10,000 undetected cases. Whatever precautions I'm taking right now are just "practice" ... something to get me in the habit. A week from now, it might be for real.
At what point would YOU be concerned? when there are 1000 detected cases in your county? When your neighbor gets sick? (BTW, at that point it would be too late.)
Give it some thought.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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