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new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:27 AM
Quote:This is panic you are spreading. For actual information, rather than 1kiki's fear and anxiety: www.google.com/search?q=compare+flu+to+coronavirus
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You can be just like Jack, SHITSTAIN !!! You ASSume that nobody can just be impersonally INTERESTED in something novel! You 2 have that in common.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:37 AM
First you complain that Trump hobbled US response in the face of a threatening contagion, now you claim it's just panic.
Yanno, if you don't take drugs or meds, then it's pretty obvious you've got nothing to blame your broken mind on except genetics and your own mental habit of twisting everything around you to feed your hatreds.
Isn't that so, Incognito?
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:59 AM
Quote:What Trump did is equivalent to disbanding the Fire Department and selling all the Fire trucks and knocking down the fire station. What 1kiki is doing is equivalent to yelling fire in a crowded theater. Do you see the difference?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
First you complain that Trump hobbled US response in the face of a threatening contagion, now you claim it's just panic.
Yanno, if you don't take drugs or meds, then it's pretty obvious you've got nothing to blame your broken mind on except genetics and your own mental habit of feeding your hatreds.
Isn't that so, Incognito?
This is what an informative article looks like (completely unlike Trump's brand of stupidity or 1kiki's very different style of stupidity, anxiety and fear):
You’re Likely to Get the Coronavirus
Most cases are not life-threatening, which is also what makes the virus a historic challenge to contain.
www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/
The Harvard epidemiology professor Marc Lipsitch is exacting in his diction, even for an epidemiologist. Twice in our conversation he started to say something, then paused and said, “Actually, let me start again.” So it’s striking when one of the points he wanted to get exactly right was this: “I think the likely outcome is that it will ultimately not be containable.”
Lipsitch predicts that, within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. But, he clarifies emphatically, this does not mean that all will have severe illnesses. “It’s likely that many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic,” he said. As with influenza, which is often life-threatening to people with chronic health conditions and of older age, most cases pass without medical care. (Overall, around 14 percent of people with influenza have no symptoms.)
Lipsitch is far from alone in his belief that this virus will continue to spread widely. The emerging consensus among epidemiologists is that the most likely outcome of this outbreak is a new seasonal disease—a fifth “endemic” coronavirus. With the other four, people are not known to develop long-lasting immunity. If this one follows suit, and if the disease continues to be as severe as it is now, “cold and flu season” could become “cold and flu and COVID-19 season.”
At this point, it is not even known how many people are infected. As of Sunday, there have been 35 confirmed cases in the U.S., according to the World Health Organization. But Lipsitch’s “very, very rough” estimate when we spoke a week ago (banking on “multiple assumptions piled on top of each other,” he said) was that 100 or 200 people in the U.S. were infected. That’s all it would take to seed the disease widely. The rate of spread would depend on how contagious the disease is in milder cases. On Friday, Chinese scientists reported in the medical journal JAMA an apparent case of asymptomatic spread of the virus, from a patient with a normal chest CT scan. The researchers concluded with stolid understatement that if this finding is not a bizarre abnormality, “the prevention of COVID-19 infection would prove challenging.”
With so little data, prognosis is difficult. But the concern that this virus is beyond containment—that it will be with us indefinitely—is nowhere more apparent than in the global race to find a vaccine, one of the clearest strategies for saving lives in the years to come.
Over the past month, stock prices of a small pharmaceutical company named Inovio more than doubled. In mid-January, it reportedly discovered a vaccine for the new coronavirus. This claim has been repeated in many news reports, even though it is technically inaccurate. Like other drugs, vaccines require a long testing process to see if they indeed protect people from disease, and do so safely. What this company—and others—has done is copy a bit of the virus’s RNA that one day could prove to work as a vaccine. It’s a promising first step, but to call it a discover
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:08 AM
You OBVIOUSLY didn't read your own link. I suggest you post it in full and then point out the parts that describe WHAT TRUMP DID EXACTLY. Not the whinging and the whining but what he ACTUALLY DID.
Oh, BTW, I think it's the CDC and the State Department telling people there is sustained local transmission of coronavirus in Japan, Korea, Iran, and Italy. Maybe you should tell them they're yelling fire! in a crowded theater. You should get on it right away, before they declare anything else.
Otherwise - meh. You can keep diddling yourself for all I care, SHITSTAIN.
Buh bye! 
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:22 AM
Quote:1kiki, you are stupider than Trump: On Saturday, Politico reported that the White House is preparing to ask Congress for $1 billion in emergency funding for a coronavirus response. This request, if it materialized, would come in the same month in which President Donald Trump released a new budget proposal that would cut key elements of pandemic preparedness—funding for the CDC, the NIH, and foreign aid.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You OBVIOUSLY didn't read your own link. I suggest you post it in full and then point out the parts that describe WHAT TRUMP DID EXACTLY. Not the whinging and the whining but what he ACTUALLY DID.
Oh, BTW, I think it's the CDC and the State Department telling people there is sustained local transmission of coronavirus in Japan, Korea, Iran, and Italy. Maybe you should tell them they're yelling fire! in a crowded theater. You should get on it right away, before they declare anything else.
Otherwise - meh. You can keep diddling yourself for all I care, SHITSTAIN.
Buh bye!
www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/
White House to ask Congress for emergency coronavirus funding. However, the amount could be significantly lower than some public health officials have argued is necessary.
www.politico.com/news/2020/02/22/emergency-coronavirus-funding-116761
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:27 PM
Quote:Then stay out of the thread and you won't be bothered.
SHITSTAIN: This is panic you are spreading.
*****
Yanno, SHITSTAIN, I scanned your posts and you have not added a single relevant piece of information to the thread. You've turned it into yet another one of your anti-Trump dumping grounds. I, for one, don't intend to play that game. Putting you on "ignore" now; I don't give a crap WHAT you post.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:33 PM
From your link:
Quote:Not the US.
In the spring of 2018, the White House pushed Congress to cut funding for Obama-era disease security programs, proposing to eliminate $252 million in previously committed resources for rebuilding health systems in Ebola-ravaged Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea.
Quote:It never happened.
Under fire from both sides of the aisle, President Donald Trump dropped the proposal to eliminate Ebola funds a month later.
Quote:Not the US.
But other White House efforts included reducing $15 billion in national health spending and cutting the global disease-fighting operational budgets
Quote:Not the US. Not medical.
of the CDC, NSC, DHS, and HHS. And the government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund was eliminated.
"The Complex Crises Fund (CCF) prevents and responds to emerging or unforeseen crises by focusing on countries or regions that demonstrate a high or escalating risk of conflict, instability, or unanticipated opportunity for progress in fragile democracies."
Quote:Not a doctor.
In May 2018, Trump ordered the NSC’s entire global health security unit shut down, calling for reassignment of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer
Quote:A lawyer.
and dissolution of his team inside the agency. The month before, then-White House National Security Advisor John Bolton pressured Ziemer’s DHS counterpart, Tom Bossert,
Quote:Not the US.
to resign along with his team. Neither the NSC nor DHS epidemic teams have been replaced. The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10.
Quote:USAID ... U.S. foreign assistance organization whose primary focus was long-term socioeconomic development.
Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
Quote:Conclusion without evidence.
And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent, the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced.
Klain has been warning for two years that the United States was in grave danger should a pandemic emerge. In 2017 and 2018, the philanthropist billionaire Bill Gates met repeatedly with Bolton and his predecessor, H.R. McMaster, warning that ongoing cuts to the global health disease infrastructure would render the United States vulnerable to, as he put it, the “significant probability of a large and lethal modern-day pandemic occurring in our lifetimes.”
Quote:Conclusion without evidence.
And an independent, bipartisan panel formed by the Center for Strategic and International Studies concluded that lack of preparedness was so acute in the Trump administration that the “United States must either pay now and gain protection and security or wait for the next epidemic and pay a much greater price in human and economic costs.”
Quote:Supposition without evidence. There seems to be consensus that, due to the nature of SARS-COV-2 itself, no containment is possible.
The next epidemic is now here; we’ll soon know the costs imposed by the Trump administration’s early negligence and present panic.
Quote:Conclusion with
On Jan. 29, Trump announced the creation of the President’s Coronavirus Task Force, an all-male group of a dozen advisors, five from the White House staff. Chaired by Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar, the task force includes men from the CDC, State Department, DHS, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Transportation Department. It’s not clear how this task force will function or when it will even convene.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:15 PM
Quote:This is how Signym's concept of Trump as a "Loose Cannon" is working:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Then stay out of the thread and you won't be bothered.
SHITSTAIN: This is panic you are spreading.
*****
Yanno, SHITSTAIN, I scanned your posts and you have not added a single relevant piece of information to the thread. You've turned it into yet another one of your anti-Trump dumping grounds. I, for one, don't intend to play that game. Putting you on "ignore" now; I don't give a crap WHAT you post.
The world could be caught flat-footed in the face of a mounting crisis. In the U.S., those concerns have been exacerbated by the Trump administration, which had been reluctant to request additional money from Congress to deal with the deadly disease, despite Democratic demands they do so. White House officials expressed hopes that the “virus would burn itself out by the summer,” according to Politico, speculation that it is more concerned about the image it is projecting than preventing an outbreak at home. “They don’t want to make it a bigger thing,” one senior Democratic aide told the outlet recently.
Even if Congress provides additional funding, there remain fears that the Trump administration has already hamstrung it’s ability to address this emergency. As Foreign Policy’s Laurie Garrett wrote last month, the administration has “intentionally rendered itself incapable” of dealing with a problem of this scale. It wiped out its “entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure,” Garrett wrote, and shut down the National Security Council’s global health security team, as well as its counterpart in the Department of Homeland Security. In addition to proposing funding cuts for national and global health programs, the administration has also kneecapped its public health teams by declining to replace officials who have left. While the president established a Coronavirus Task Force led by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar last month, “it’s not clear how it will function,” Garrett noted—essentially forcing the administration to “resort to improvisation” in its approach to the crisis.
www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/trump-has-already-hamstrung-the-us-cor
onavirus-response
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:26 PM
Quote:Trump can handle coronavirus, 1kiki. He said so:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It never happened.
Not a doctor.
A lawyer.
Not the US.
Conclusion without evidence.
Not Trump.
Not Trump.
When a senior White House aide would brief President Donald Trump in 2018 about an Ebola-virus outbreak in central Africa, it was plainly evident that hardships roiling a far-flung part of the world didn’t command his attention. He was zoning out. “It was like talking to a wall,” a person familiar with the matter told me.
Now a new coronavirus that originated in China is confronting him with a potential pandemic, a problem that Trump seems ill-prepared to meet. A crisis that is heading into its third month could draw out every personal and managerial failing that the president has shown to this point. Much of what he’s said publicly about the virus has been wrong, a consequence of downplaying any troubles on his watch. He has long stoked fears that foreigners entering the United States bring disease. Now he may double down on xenophobic suspicions. He has hollowed out federal agencies and belittled expertise, prioritizing instead his own intuition and the demands of his political base. But he’ll need to rely on a bureaucracy he’s maligned to stop the virus’s spread.
From the first, Trump has offered false reassurance. In a CNBC interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, last month, Trump maintained that the coronavirus was “totally under control” and that he wasn’t concerned about the risk of a pandemic. “It’s going to be just fine,” he said.
Except that it wasn’t under control—it still isn’t—and no one knows just how bad it will be. “Even a middle schooler wouldn’t have said that,” Michael Mina, an epidemiology professor at Harvard’s School of Public Health, told me. “Everyone is using caution in how we’re framing what the risk is, primarily because we don’t understand what the risk is at this moment. The last thing anyone would say is, ‘We’re not concerned.’ Everyone is concerned.”
More at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2020/02/24/the-coronavirus-outbreak-c
ould-bring-out-the-worst-in-trump/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, February 25, 2020 6:16 PM
He's the president of the United States, dipshit. He's supposed to say stuff like that even if it isn't true.
You like to pretend you're the owner of a billion+ dollar company. You should at least know what you're talking about when you lie.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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