In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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Alright... Picture time. 
I took a few extra snaps here, going around the closet into the hallway so you can get a picture of how the two closets and the bedroom/hallway all tie into each other. I get to show off the work a bit too. 
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Here's the closet with only the left bi-fold door up. These are terribly hard to put back up, so I'm hoping I can build the closet without having to take the left one down. Unfortunately, I forgot to photograph it with the door closed so you could see the awesome 45 degree angle I made for the return nearly butted right up against the door. It looks great.
Here's just another angle on the closet for some perspective.
And here's a shot with my refinished, bright, shiny white bedroom door that leads out to the hall. Can you tell that this POS was probably as old as I am and had holes in it? Everything is caulked and once I get the spackle up on the nail holes the trim will all get one final coat of paint. You can hardly see the nail holes on the picture, but they're more visible IRL.
In this image the door is open, so you can see into the hallway. The bi-fold to the left of the nail gun on the ground is the linen closet I was talking about that butts right up to the right side of the bedroom closet. (That bi-fold will close completely, but I want to wait a few weeks at least to let the paint totally cure before having any of them completely closed for more than a few seconds so the paint doesn't stick together).
And finally, a shot into the linen closet itself. As you can see, it's not much better than worthless. Sure, it's nice to have a hidden place to buy my bulk purchases of smaller things, but at only 9 1/2" deep, you're not going to be putting all of your towels in there. I have to devote one half of one of my dressers for that unfortunately.
Nice shelves though, huh? Can you believe that is original wood that had rough edges and was covered in an awful turquoise flower print veneer, that was also put on every square inch of the walls inside as well?
I only even have vague recollections of doing that since I was drinking all the way back then as well, though not to the severe degree that happened later. I do remember using my router to make rounded edges for them on the bottom of the front of the shelves before staining them and putting a few coats of poly I had left over from when I did the hardwood floors. It's interesting how much darker they turned out than the floor since it's a much softer wood.
The glass you see on top is a nice touch, but really just decorative. I didn't shell out any money for them. A friend at the old job said that they were getting rid of a coffee table that had four pieces of glass. Unfortunately 1 broke before I got them, so the top shelf doesn't have one. It just so happened that they were exactly 9 1/2" wide, so they fit perfectly in there. But they don't go all the way to the walls, and they have 45 degree angles on them behind the door that you can't see as well. Anything I think might leak goes on the glass. Nothing but toilet paper and toothbrushes and the like on any shelving that doesn't have glass.
Oh... and I had to patch a hole in the door too since I had to move the knob hardware to the middle of the door. The idiots who came before me put it all the way on the right like it's a standard door which made it almost impossible to open or close without using two hands and finagling it. Works great now.
Any ideas you all have for that closet would be awfully appreciated. I'm kind of at a loss here. The shape/size seems to be the worst of all worlds.
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First of all .... nice trim work, SIX. The hardwood floors and trim are going to be a real selling point. If I were walking thru that area, that's what I would be focusing on. Assuming that the windows turn out as good as everything else, those would be a real plus. However, as an experienced homeowner, I would also be looking at the quality of the windows themselves ... single pane? Casement?
OK, about that closet ... the pictures do make things clearer. The space on the left of the bi-fold is 26.5" wide (or deep). It can accomodate 2 clothes rods (high,low) with one end of each rod anchored in the 18" section of the chase wall, and the other end anchored in a (built) support right behind the bifold door. That creates approximately four feet (25" X 2) hanging space for shirts and skirts. Shelf on the bottom for shoes. The back wall likewise can accommodate a clothes rod for taller items (dresses, slacks, coats) but I would build a shelf 10" wide and 12" deep on the 15" part of the chase wall because otherwise if you have clothes hanging on the side wall and clothes hanging on the back wall they'll foul each other in the corner when you try and remove them. So that leaves another approximately two feet (37"-approx 10") of hanging space ... six feet all together. You can build drawers under the single clothes rod
That 7.5" spot could use maybe clothes hooks
This shows how double closet rod creates more storage space
This is just pretty
In fact. a lot of good ideas here
https://www.familyhandyman.com/closet/easy-ways-to-expand-your-closet-
space/
I sure hope that helps!!
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Alright... Picture time.
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The depth one needs for hanging clothes is about 24". So starting with that figure, you've got good enough space for a single or double (or partially single / double) rod across the front. Unfortunately that leaves an awkward space to the right of the chase in the rear. And you only have about 18" depth left over from the front rack, so there's not enough depth left over to put another side to side rod in. But 18" is a good measurement for a set of shelves there.
An alternative for that right rear space is that you could put in short rods front-to-back.
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He could put a clothes rod across the back. Altho you need 24" depth for clothes, the actual rod needs to be only 13-14" from the back wall
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
First of all .... nice trim work, SIX.
Thanks.

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The hardwood floors and trim are going to be a real selling point. If I were walking thru that area, that's what I would be focusing on.
Yup. That's why I'm thinking once everything is done upstairs I'm going to move out of the living room so I can really give it the same treatment that I did the bedrooms. The walls thruought this house were terrible, with layer upon layer of paint just covering imperfections everywhere. If all I do is paint the living room it's just going to look like shitty walls with yet another layer of paint on them. Fortunately, that's the only room left in the house that I still have to do that for. I already did the kitchen on the 1st floor. I might even rent a machine and sand the hardwood down on the 1st floor and re-stain and poly it like I did upstairs. It's not nearly as bad as the floors upstairs were, but the living room is the first room you see if you're coming in the front door.
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Assuming that the windows turn out as good as everything else, those would be a real plus. However, as an experienced homeowner, I would also be looking at the quality of the windows themselves ... single pane? Casement?
What exactly is casement? They're all those vinyl newer windows, double pane. They're definately not super high quality Feldco windows though, although they're working fine and much lower maintenance than old wooden windows.
Speaking of which, one of the windows in the living room is wood,and is sealed shut. I always wondered why that was when the rest of the house is vinyl. I plan on removing that window and putting a new one in... I'm just hoping that there isn't a problem there that prevented this from being done before.
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OK, about that closet ... the pictures do make things clearer. The space on the left of the bi-fold is 26.5" wide (or deep). It can accomodate 2 clothes rods (high,low) with one end of each rod anchored in the 18" section of the chase wall, and the other end anchored in a (built) support right behind the bifold door. That creates approximately four feet (25" X 2) hanging space for shirts and skirts. Shelf on the bottom for shoes. The back wall likewise can accommodate a clothes rod for taller items (dresses, slacks, coats) but I would build a shelf 10" wide and 12" deep on the 15" part of the chase wall because otherwise if you have clothes hanging on the side wall and clothes hanging on the back wall they'll foul each other in the corner when you try and remove them. So that leaves another approximately two feet (37"-approx 10") of hanging space ... six feet all together. You can build drawers under the single clothes rod
That 7.5" spot could use maybe clothes hooks
This shows how double closet rod creates more storage space
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This is just pretty
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Agreed. Too pretty for me though. :)
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In fact. a lot of good ideas here
https://www.familyhandyman.com/closet/easy-ways-to-expand-your-closet-
space/
I'll check that site out.
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I sure hope that helps!!
Thanks for the suggestions.
I don't know if putting clothes on the left side is the best idea though, although I do like the idea of the double racks there and the single taller rack on the right (it would also be a lot less shelf building on my part).
My concern is the bifold door there. The space is deep enough, but without having it right in front of me now I would guess that there is at least 5" of dead space on the left side when the bifold door is open full.
Now I read somewhere you only need like 22.5" depth for clothes, but you're saying 24". I've only got 26.5" depth there on that left side, so if it really is 24" that would only leave 2" in the front to
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I got all of the tricky baseboards up today, save for one. So except for the closets themselves, all of the baseboards in both bedrooms is finally done. Everything in the hallway is done now too, except for a short run to an outside 45 degree that wraps around to the stairs. I'm actually not sure how I'm doing the stair border itself yet... If I'm going to put the old quarterround back up or possibly rip the top part of my new baseboards to cap it off. That would look better, but it's a lot more work and I have to make sure I have enough baseboard since I wasn't accounting for that and I can no longer buy any new ones.
At this point, I think I need to finish what I've started, and treat everything else as its own separate project. That would mean spackling all the nail holes tomorrow morning, sanding them when they're dry and painting all of the existing casing fronts and baseboard. Everything is already caulked and dry.
If I got that done, it would all be behind me and my individual projects would be what is left...
Master Bedroom Closet.
2nd Bedroom Closet.
Stairway to 2nd floor.
4 Windows.
Painting both the bathroom door and attic door (when it is warm enough not to have an attic door).
Then, eventually, a bathroom remodel. Probably nothing really too serious. Just a new vanity, ceramic tile floor to replace the existing vinyl crap, and re-seating the existing toilet before giving the walls and trim a nice paint job. I can't use the new trim I bought for the rest of the house in there because it's a fairly small bathroom and the distance between the window and the shower would not accommodate window casings as large as there will be everywhere else.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Casement is a window configuration, where the window is attached on the side with hinges and opens outward like a door.
There are windows that slide past each other either side to side, or vertically.windows that hinge at the top (awning) and windows that open at the bottom (hopper)
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Not sure I understand about the clothes rods on the side. The rods would be along the wall, the hanging clothes would be facing the front, they would take up that 18" space and then some. It might look a little akward because the bifold door would be covering up the sleeve of the front hanging item but I think it might make up in practicality what it lacks in looks
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Eyes tired and going all over the place. Long Thursday again.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Casement is a window configuration, where the window is attached on the side with hinges and opens outward like a door.
There are windows that slide past each other either side to side, or vertically.windows that hinge at the top (awning) and windows that open at the bottom (hopper)
They're the ones that slide vertically past each other. I can either lower the top one or raise the bottom one. I didn't even realize that I could lower the top one in my bathroom and the screen was up there. I always used to keep that window closed since I thought there was no screen.
I hope those are in style, because I'm certainly not changing them.

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Not sure I understand about the clothes rods on the side. The rods would be along the wall, the hanging clothes would be facing the front, they would take up that 18" space and then some. It might look a little akward because the bifold door would be covering up the sleeve of the front hanging item but I think it might make up in practicality what it lacks in looks
Oh... so you mean the poles would be coming toward you when you open the door on the left side? I misunderstood what you said. That would probably work. I thought you meant parallel to the back wall, where it would bury clothes on both poles that were behind the bi-fold door.
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