In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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Got a project to get started on over the weekend. Have to take a part a video cabinet.
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Quote:That's where I got lost. You need an entire ~24" from one shoulder of the hanger to the other shoulder. If you put a rod side-to-side across the back between the chase and the righthand-wall, while the rod need only by ~12" from the back wall, the front portion the the hangers (and their clothes) will intrude on the clothes that are on the rod that goes across the front of the closet side-to-side.
Originally posted by SignyM:
He could put a clothes rod across the back. Altho you need 24" depth for clothes, the actual rod needs to be only 13-14" from the back wall
So ... not understanding this post.
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Quote:Yeah, I just want to comment as well on how nice the floors and trim look!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. That's why I'm thinking once everything is done upstairs I'm going to move out of the living room so I can really give it the same treatment that I did the bedrooms. The walls thruought this house were terrible, with layer upon layer of paint just covering imperfections everywhere. If all I do is paint the living room it's just going to look like shitty walls with yet another layer of paint on them. Fortunately, that's the only room left in the house that I still have to do that for. I already did the kitchen on the 1st floor. I might even rent a machine and sand the hardwood down on the 1st floor and re-stain and poly it like I did upstairs. It's not nearly as bad as the floors upstairs were, but the living room is the first room you see if you're coming in the front door.
Quote:Oh the never-ending mysteries of home ownership!
Speaking of which, one of the windows in the living room is wood,and is sealed shut. I always wondered why that was when the rest of the house is vinyl. I plan on removing that window and putting a new one in... I'm just hoping that there isn't a problem there that prevented this from being done before.
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OK, about that closet ... the pictures do make things clearer. The space on the left of the bi-fold is 26.5" wide (or deep). It can accomodate 2 clothes rods (high,low) with one end of each rod anchored in the 18" section of the chase wall, and the other end anchored in a (built) support right behind the bifold door. That creates approximately four feet (25" X 2) hanging space for shirts and skirts. Shelf on the bottom for shoes. The back wall likewise can accommodate a clothes rod for taller items (dresses, slacks, coats) but I would build a shelf 10" wide and 12" deep on the 15" part of the chase wall because otherwise if you have clothes hanging on the side wall and clothes hanging on the back wall they'll foul each other in the corner when you try and remove them. So that leaves another approximately two feet (37"-approx 10") of hanging space ... six feet all together. You can build drawers under the single clothes rod
That 7.5" spot could use maybe clothes hooks
This shows how double closet rod creates more storage space
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This is just pretty
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Agreed. Too pretty for me though. :)
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In fact. a lot of good ideas here
https://www.familyhandyman.com/closet/easy-ways-to-expand-your-closet-
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I'll check that site out.
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I sure hope that helps!!
Quote:I guess I'm used to rough-and-ready shelf-building - yanno, supports nailed (or screwed) into studs on either end and pine planking rest on the supports. But if you're going for a more finished built-in look, I can see how that could be some task.
Thanks for the suggestions.
I don't know if putting clothes on the left side is the best idea though, although I do like the idea of the double racks there and the single taller rack on the right (it would also be a lot less shelf building on my part).
Quote:Different places say different things, but if you're going to hang something big - like a men's suit jacket - it's best to allow more space rather than less.
My concern is the bifold door there. The space is deep enough, but without having it right in front of me now I would guess that there is at least 5" of dead space on the left side when the bifold door is open full.
Now I read somewhere you only need like 22.5" depth for clothes
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but you're saying 24". I've only got 26.5" depth there on that left side, so if it really is 24" that would only leave 2" in the front to reach back and behind the open bi-fold door for any clothes all the way on the left side of the rNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:That's how I re-read it. Signy's plan would give you 25" + 30" (55") hanging space (up to double that with high-low rods) and if I read it correctly, n x 7.5" shelves. Mine would give you 35" + 17" (52") across the front with n x 35" shelves in the back, but they'd be behind clothes and awkward to get to.
Oh... so you mean the poles would be coming toward you when you open the door on the left side? I misunderstood what you said. That would probably work. I thought you meant parallel to the back wall, where it would bury clothes on both poles that were behind the bi-fold door.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Clothes rods: Imagine one rod across the back of the closet from chase to wall, and two rods along the left-hand wall from chase to bifold door
KIKI: The rod across the back of the closet: A clothes hangar is approximately 24" wide from shoulder tip to shoulder tip, but it's only HALF that from center hook to shoulder tip. Hence the distance from the clothes rod to the wall only needs to be as wide as center hook to shoulder tip. There's absolutely no need to put a rod a full 24" from the wall. It could be attached at the chase and the far right-hand wall.
The rods along the lefthand side wall ... same thing. They only need to be about 14" from the wall, which is about half of the width of a hangar plus a couple of inches extra clearanace. The rod could be attached to the chase, but since there's no attachment point at the bifold door they can be attached by a bracket They even have rod brackets with shelves so no need to build and attach separate shelves
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Hey Brenda - good luck with your project!
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"There's absolutely no need to put a rod a full 24" from the wall."
You up too?
Oh, I get that measurement. I thought you were talking about and front and back side to side rods - one in the rear to the right of the chase, and one across the front, and the depth of the closet not accommodating that. I misunderstood.
Well, I'm going to take some more cough medicine and go back to bed.
Goodnight! I hope you're improved from before. 
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Got a project to get started on over the weekend. Have to take a part a video cabinet.
Take it apart?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That's where I got lost. You need an entire ~24" from one shoulder of the hanger to the other shoulder. If you put a rod side-to-side across the back between the chase and the righthand-wall, while the rod need only by ~12" from the back wall, the front portion the the hangers (and their clothes) will intrude on the clothes that are on the rod that goes across the front of the closet side-to-side.
Just to be clear, the "chase" is that "boxed out" area on the left.... right?
I'm pretty sure that "chase" is going to make any solution less than optimal. I'm probably going to have to just settle for good enough here.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yeah, I just want to comment as well on how nice the floors and trim look!
Thank you.
It should look good. It only took me 8 years to get to this point.
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Oh the never-ending mysteries of home ownership!
I've honestly had enough, but if I ever feel the need to go down another rabbit hole, I might knock down a few portions of the walls in the attic and see what's going on back there. I already know I'm going to find a lot of racoon crap, but what other mysteries lie behind those walls?
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I guess I'm used to rough-and-ready shelf-building - yanno, supports nailed (or screwed) into studs on either end and pine planking rest on the supports. But if you're going for a more finished built-in look, I can see how that could be some task.
Well... I haven't built anything like that since high school, but I enjoy this kind of work. But with so many other things that need to be done, that could be a real time sink for me now, and I think I need a morale boost by getting something actually completed. Unfortunately, there was some damage around the small bedroom windows that I'm going to need to repair, which is going to require me to repaint the room when it's all done. So even though the bedroom closet is going to be far easier by comparison otherwise, there's probably more work to do in the small bedroom still. (Windowsills are supposed to be there for a reason, and when rain gets in over the years when you're leaving the windows open to cool down over summer, and you've got garbage bags for windows hanging over them... well...)
If I can get away without making the closets too large of a project and still make them functional that is the best option for me.
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Different places say different things, but if you're going to hang something big - like a men's suit jacket - it's best to allow more space rather than less.
Well the one thing I do have an abundance of is dead space. Doesn't make any sense to not make it 24" unless there was a real dire need not to.
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It depends on how fancy you want those shelves to look, I think!
Nothing super fancy. Just want it to look nice and be functional.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:That's how I re-read it. Signy's plan would give you 25" + 30" (55") hanging space (up to double that with high-low rods) and if I read it correctly, n x 7.5" shelves. Mine would give you 35" + 17" (52") across the front with n x 35" shelves in the back, but they'd be behind clothes and awkward to get to.
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Oh... so you mean the poles would be coming toward you when you open the door on the left side? I misunderstood what you said. That would probably work. I thought you meant parallel to the back wall, where it would bury clothes on both poles that were behind the bi-fold door.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Your idea with shelves in the back is what I was really thinking about doing all those years ago, but as you said it would be a nightmare trying to actually access anything in that dead space. When I first moved in they just had two bars for clothes, one in front of the other, and with both bars full it was impossible to get to any of the back clothes. There's so much storage space in this house, and some clothing racks already installed in a closet and a very large one in one of the rooms that it makes no sense to put the two poles back up like they had it to rotate summer/winter clothes when you can just put them upstairs.
I think the best option here, sadly, is to waste any dead space in the middle of the closet, and build on the perimeter... like a half-ass walk in closet.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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